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    It would be population control if they didn't go and get artificially inseminated or pay surrogate mothers to have children for them!

    I work with a young guy who donated his sperm to a lesbian couple he knows so they can have a kid and is going to do it again so they can have another one.

    Sick in itself but when you consider he is married with his own child you have to wonder what his wife thinks of her child having two half siblings running around.

    Homosexuality makes me sick to my stomach.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorolf View Post
    Chemicals messing with the body is a theory I've had for a while. I think hormones might have a lot to do with it. With all the hormone shit they put in food its causing noticeable physical things over time, so it would make sense if it caused psychological effects like homosexuality.




    Your theory is interesting though I disagree with it. I don't personally believe in reincarnation, but I wont say reincarnation is wrong as it very well may be true. I will say there has to be new souls as well as recycled ones because of all the reproduction over time. Theres just to many homos for this theory to be plausible I would think.

    Also most gay men Ive seen act nothing like women. They imitate feminine things a very messed up wrong way that aren't truly feminine. I would think if they were having womanly instincts they would be more womanly in the actions.
    Well of course they're not ACTUALLY feminine, but they're trying to be. The soul doesn't have THAT much of an effect on the brain and body; its a bit obscure to try to pin down, but I believe it is part of what drives things like motivation and likes/dislikes. The soul wants to be a female, because it has such an overwelming amount of experience as a female, but its comfortable in the body its already in and it has nothing to lose, so the person usually turns into a deviant and possibly hostile. Its simply not compatible with its gender.

    There are well enough deviants to explain this phenomenon (when I'm talking about deviants, I'm talking about full fledged dykes and fags). Although, I do believe homosexuals who are less insane and flaming could just be the less extreme cases (have been reincarnated fewer times, or are just more intelligent and accepting of their gender roles). There are plenty of stereotypically masculine men and feminine women that have been reincarnated many times as the same sex that could easily be born back as the opposite sex. This is why there are so many "stereotypically masculine" guys who are homophobic, they're not phobic of being gay, they're phobic of dying and being reincarnated as a woman. They usually don't though, because the soul has some control over where it goes, and that's why homosexuals are in the minority. Most souls simply have a dominant sex that is their majority of lives (they'll say be a male every couple lives and then switch to a female), because they don't have enough power to control where they go. There are some (like me), who have been reincarnated as the same sex for many many lives and have a very strong identity.

    I think I may have been a Russian ballet dancer, a sickly little girl, a fiery mouthed, troubled adolescent girl from a powerful family in the victorian ages, and eventually a German orphan from a lebensborn home. These very well may be my own imaginings and not real (not everyone remembers past lives), but if past lives are true, I certainly have a very long history of being the feminine stereotype and would be very very unhappy being born back as a different gender. Its not good or bad, its just what it is (though it is a bit unhealthy to have such a hardwired identity), I'm not sure what gives someone the ability to choose where they go, but it probably is just random.

    @EQ Fighter I'm talking more about full blown gender benders that have displayed these behaviors since childhood. I realize there are masculine gay men and all, and I don't think ALL homosexuality is caused by problematic reincarnation and biological factors but there are certainly some things we can't explain, such as someone claiming that they've felt they were born as the wrong gender since they were very young. I think Spartans were simply like modern day prison inmates; they grew up in a very sick environment and weren't allowed to have normal relationships since they were training or away at war so much and turned into perverts due to being starved of female affection.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caoimhe View Post
    Of course it's impossible for anyone to flick a switch and then all of a sudden they're gay, unless they're bisexual. I've always had a personal theory that gay people are gay due to environmental reasons rather than due to genetics. As part of my biology degree, I studied the effects of disposed chemicals (endocrine disruptors) in fish. It was quite alarming to see that many fish changed sex due to the effects of these man-made pollutants that were released into rivers. If there are enough pollutants released into the atmosphere and into our drinking water (and let's face it, there's more than enough), could this also happen to humans but to a lesser extent?
    I disagree considering there really isn't no switch to flip.

    I've known a great deal of cases where after men were married to a woman for several years with children that have went from heterosexual to homosexual overnight.

    I've always had a personal theory that gay people are gay due to environmental reasons rather than due to genetics.
    I think it's a psychological behavioral development that is acquired.

    There is no evidence of a biological genetic structure for homosexuality beyond theory.

    Even the theory that suggests such is a poor one at best.

    As part of my biology degree, I studied the effects of disposed chemicals (endocrine disruptors) in fish. It was quite alarming to see that many fish changed sex due to the effects of these man-made pollutants that were released into rivers. If there are enough pollutants released into the atmosphere and into our drinking water (and let's face it, there's more than enough), could this also happen to humans but to a lesser extent?
    Interesting to think of.

    EQ: It is a population control method, but I would also say that quite a number of the Political Elite are themselves Homosexuals.
    Very few people of the upper social classes are homosexual.

    It's mostly a working class phenomena.

    Vindefense: Passive eugenics is the proper term. Your whole post though seems an attempt to absolve the accountability for ones actions with yet another chimera, this time "Elite eugenicists" while at the same time ignoring that the behavior is a result and not the cause of a mental deficiency that is at its essence the will to self terminate.
    I'm not absolving any accountability here.

    I do however believe that the social elites within power of societies engage in the promotion of homosexuality amongst the lower social classes.

    They push it onto people through promotion where otherwise people wouldn't become as such without it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caledonian View Post
    I disagree considering there really isn't no switch to flip.

    I've known a great deal of cases where after men were married to a woman for several years with children that have went from heterosexual to homosexual overnight.



    I think it's a behavioral development that is acquired.

    There is no evidence of a biological genetic structure for homosexuality beyond theory.
    That's absolutely disgusting. Bi's are just sick in the head perverts, there is no legitimite biological or psychological reason why someone could be attracted to both sexes. I highly doubt its industrial chemicals in the environment, people were exposed to a lot of dirty or toxic things in the old days and there were not married men suddenly deciding they play for the same team (lol though its not really funny). I've actually observed some of these types and can tell you they're probably not really homosexual, they seem to be attracted to women just like any other man. Many other people think so too.
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    Homosexuality is a complicated beast. I don’t think it’s anything as cut and dry as either nature or nurture, but a combination of the two. It is definitely being propagated by the media, and at the same time hormone-mimicking chemicals and real hormones are making their way into our water supply, which have been shown to feminize fish. I’m not sure if these chemicals are to blame, but it seems that certain individuals are more susceptible to gay propaganda than others. An interesting observation is that many homosexual men have “feminine hands”:

    http://www.unl.edu/rhames/courses/re...mo_finger.html

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    You can make the homosexuality issue a lot more simpler for a society and its individuals if you take a strong stance on it.


    Mysteriously enough in nations such as Saudi Arabia the genetic-link crowd and masses of homosexuals who would attempt to normalize it in society tend to leave the impressionable minds of the masses alone. Perhaps such policies aren't all that inhumane?


    If a direct correlation can be made between declining numbers of Germanic births and public efforts to normalize homosexuality then vastly stricter policies are in order it would seem. I believe this correlation could be made rather easily. Something to look forward to in the future of the smaller, nationalist dominated future of Germanics to be sure

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    Do some people here see someone as a homosexual, only from the point he practices it?

    Because i see people writing things like "his whole life he was a heterosexual, having kids and a wife, and then he suddenly decides to be gay"

    The understanding here in Holland (as i perceive it) is that someone like that was gay or bi from the beginning, but because of social pressure, shame, or even actual love for a partner of the opposite sex, made him/her act like a heterosexual.

    I don't know if it is a coincidence or not, but i usually see Americans saying people like that suddenly became interested in the same sex, while they first were actual heterosexuals. Could this be a major cultural difference?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sybren View Post
    Do some people here see someone as a homosexual, only from the point he practices it?

    Because i see people writing things like "his whole life he was a heterosexual, having kids and a wife, and then he suddenly decides to be gay"

    The understanding here in Holland (as i perceive it) is that someone like that was gay or bi from the beginning, but because of social pressure, shame, or even actual love for a partner of the opposite sex, made him/her act like a heterosexual.

    I don't know if it is a coincidence or not, but i usually see Americans saying people like that suddenly became interested in the same sex, while they first were actual heterosexuals. Could this be a major cultural difference?
    The understanding here in Holland (as i perceive it) is that someone like that was gay or bi from the beginning, but because of social pressure, shame, or even actual love for a partner of the opposite sex, made him/her act like a heterosexual.
    That sounds ludicrous.

    How can a man have a wife and kids first involving sexual intercourse while claiming they were homosexual the entire time pressured in by shame?

    That's silly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caledonian View Post
    That sounds ludicrous.

    How can a man have a wife and kids first involving sexual intercourse while claiming they were heterosexual the entire time pressured in by shame?

    That's silly.
    I don't know, a lot of people here believe that, it seems. I'm beginning to think there is a huge cultural gap in that area.

    I think social pressure shouldn't be underestimated. Also, a lot of gays wánt to be normal, heterosexual. Some told this to me themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caledonian View Post
    That sounds ludicrous.

    How can a man have a wife and kids first involving sexual intercourse while claiming they were homosexual the entire time pressured in by shame?

    That's silly.
    Male sexuality isn't malleable. If he comes out as gay in later life, then he was always gay. Women, on the other hand, can turn homosexual, and the number of female homosexuals is tens of times higher now than in the past. For men, the number is the same and will always be the same.

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