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    Quote Originally Posted by rivalin View Post
    why exactly are they "degenerate", what do you mean by it?
    They've lost an advantageous trait for our society.

    Quote Originally Posted by rivalin View Post
    In regard to the fact that homosexuality being natural not justifying it; nature is the only objective measure of "right and wrong" everything else is simply opinion.
    "Right and wrong" are never objective, period.
    Nature is not universal, and it has no intention, this is reserved for Gods, there are simply different strategies of survival in nature, we follow a unique one, like every species, but we have a mind, we have intention, if we think we know that path, we set the guidelines for it, everyone who escapes this path is degenerated, not suited for our way of survival.
    So either we change that way, like we did, and now are facing extinction, or we get rid of degenerates.

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    ...but it seems that sometimes people really can hate something just because it's different from them.
    A healthy survival strategy that is, cmp. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iren%C3...ibl-Eibesfeldt
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jäger View Post

    A healthy survival strategy that is, cmp. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iren%C3...ibl-Eibesfeldt
    A fair point, but now that we're capable of conscious thought, isn't it best to discern the purpose of that natural hatred, and orient our behaviour accordingly? The purpose of that hate is to impede the reproductive success of those who are different, shouldn't that be our logical objective, not hate for hate's sake?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rivalin View Post
    A fair point, but now that we're capable of conscious thought, isn't it best to discern the purpose of that natural hatred, and orient our behaviour accordingly?
    Yes, very good.

    Quote Originally Posted by rivalin View Post
    The purpose of that hate is to impede the reproductive success of those who are different, shouldn't that be our logical objective, not hate for hate's sake?
    I am fine with sterilization of homosexuals, I don't intend to torture them.
    And I would punish them if they didn't report about their defect, much like we have laws which require to report epidemic illnesses.

    However there is the problem that we don't exactly know how homosexuality comes into existence, so we need to reduce the contact homosexuals have with society as much as possible, much like with epidemic illnesses

    No need for hate.
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    What is the point of sterilizing individuals who will not reproduce anyway? Usually homosexuals got married to women because of discrimination against them, so I do not see the point for something so superfluous.

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    Homosexuality is not normal - normal love and family is man+women.

    When homosexuals play in they houses all its ok. But fags parades is very bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SineNomine View Post
    What is the point of sterilizing individuals who will not reproduce anyway? Usually homosexuals got married to women because of discrimination against them, so I do not see the point for something so superfluous.
    There are many homosexuals who simply want children, and take it for the team so to say.
    If there is no desire for children at all, then they shouldn't mind, win-win
    Additionally, there is also a question of bi-sexuality.
    "Nothing is more disgusting than the majority: because it consists of a few powerful predecessors, of rogues who adapt themselves, of weak who assimilate themselves, and the masses who imitate without knowing at all what they want." (Johann Wolfgang Goethe)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Janus View Post
    Bla bla. Why can't people get evolution? There's no teleological aspect in it. We are not designed for anything. It's just plain algorithmic and those who multiply pass their genome to another generation. No design - no function.
    Homosexuals are simply the result of the variation aspect of evolution and because they are homosexual they won't multiply successfully usually.
    Until this comes around: http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?p=32353
    Then they can coach their little new-bought lapdogs into it. And with lesbian insemination it's even more "natural". F------ SUPERB, EH!?

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    Homosexuality has not been weeded out by genetic evolution because the same gene that makes men homosexually oriented makes women more fertile.

    In other words, the sisters of homosexual men have more children than women on the average.

    Suppose people had two children on the average. Suppose homosexual men have one child on the average. (Yes, homosexual men can have children. They are not infertile. They are capable of having children with women if they want.) Suppose the sisters of homosexual men have three children on the average. If a mother has two children with the gene in question, one daughter and one son, and if the daughter has three children and the son has one child, the brother and sister combined have four children. If the brother and sister did not have the gene in question, and if both of them had two children, the two of them combined would have four children anyway.

    4 = 4. This means that people who have the genes that cause homosexuality are not less likely to produce offspring than the people who don't have those genes because the negative impact of male homosexuality on the number of offspring is offset by the positive impact of the increased female fertility.
    Neither assimilation nor integration will solve the problems. The only thing that would work from my point of view would be separation. And this separation should be done on a global level, not on a communal level. The western countries here, the islamic countries there. And a very tall border between the two worlds please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spydskjold View Post
    Until this comes around: http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?p=32353
    Then they can coach their little new-bought lapdogs into it. And with lesbian insemination it's even more "natural". FUCKING SUPERB, EH!?
    Uhm, what has adoption to do with evolution and homosexuality itself? My bigger concern is that they may adopt children from other countries.

    What do you fear ? They cannot raise their children as homosexuals if they were not born that way.
    Ceterum censeo Iudaeam esse delendam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jäger View Post
    There are many homosexuals who simply want children, and take it for the team so to say.
    If there is no desire for children at all, then they shouldn't mind, win-win
    Additionally, there is also a question of bi-sexuality.
    It's still pointless. I'm not sure why it should matter whether homosexuals reproduce or not. Do they have malevolent powers of some sort, that make them particularly fearsome, thus mandating a catharsis of sorts? I think this is an irrational overreaction to mere sexual preference.

    Quote Originally Posted by Spydskjold View Post
    Until this comes around: http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?p=32353
    Then they can coach their little new-bought lapdogs into it. And with lesbian insemination it's even more "natural". FUCKING SUPERB, EH!?
    And then, world domination...

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