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    Quote Originally Posted by rivalin View Post
    What you're saying makes sense to a modern person, but you'd see it more clearly if you put yourself in the position of people at that time. If you were a ruler you wouldn't care that peasants that you never came into contact with spoke your language, all you want is people who do what they're told and pay their taxes etc, and in any case most elites like keeping their language to themselves (eg medieaval clergy).
    Like how Bretons speak French rather than Breton, right? Why would the Bretons who had suddenly begin to speak French when their language is completely different? A ruler wants some kind of control over his peasantry-- language is one manner.

    Language is a form of controlling nationalism and rebellious actions that stem from it. Get the people to speak your language, you've won half the battle.

    As for peasants, "getting ahead"- your average peasant never left the village he was born in, knew his place in the world and accepted it. How would learning English help a peasant get ahead? would he impress the local lord when he went to the weekly cocktail party at the lord's hall?
    There are more political implications like I described above to having the peasantry speak the language of the ruling class. And don't forget, not all Anglo-Saxons would be rich, elite class... besides, wouldn't it be beneficial if one could speak with one's peasantry to tell them orders?
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    I just found this and thought I'd throw it into the mix




    Personally... I think England looks like a cross between the Danish and Dutch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oswiu View Post
    We mustn't forget that the Britanni were under attack from all sides, and that they didn't just crumble under one attack from the Saxons - the Picts and the Irish were also penetrating very deep into the province. On top of that, many soldiers (including native troops and commanders like Riothamus) were drawn away to help defend what was left of Romanitas on the Continent.

    Less of a paradox when it is remembered that the Germanics attacking the core of the Imperium were already Christened, and so were more amenable to fitting in with the established order of things in the south.

    There is some truth in this, but the general reason behind it all is that Britannia was a peripheral province, that was always going to be lost more readily than the central territories of the Mediterranean basin. The further you are from the body of the shoal/herd, the easier it is for the predator to catch you!

    Quite.
    Though Hussar forgot to pretend to be a GermanoLombardicised Gaul for a while, and let slip that he's really an Italicised EtruscoPelasgian... :p
    Excuses, excuses, that's all!!!
    The fact of the matter, the Ancient Britons got their backsides whipped hard by the Anglo-Saxons and never recovered from it! Their languages and cultures were lost forever!! Norman's tried to revive it, just to irritate the Saxons, but they too lost the case.

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