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    The Celts and the Druids Migrated from...Iraq/Assyria

    The Celts and the Duids, or at least Celtic culture, was not European, but came with Assyrian/Middle Eastern immigrants. They had the people of Britain worship their Mesopotamian Druids with their astrological science. They had knowlege of the heavens and they built astrological sites like Stonehenge and the Pyramids which lined up with the movement of the stars. Could it explain the rise of Rome and why the Romans were so ruthless in their killing of the Celtic Druids? Was the rise of the Pharoahs followed by a movement into Europe, bringing astrological knowledge and the habit of worshipping the heavens?

    Look at any map of Celt culture and you will see it didn't fall onto Europe from space, but there is a clear entrance by Celt culture into Europe from the bottom right hand corner:





    and artifacts from Celtic times do indeed have a gaudy, Egyptian look about them:





    Reconstruction of Hochdorf grave chamber, Hochdorf museum







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    Quote Originally Posted by Loftor View Post
    The Celts and the Duids, or at least Celtic culture, was not European, but came with Assyrian/Middle Eastern immigrants. They had the people of Britain worship their Mesopotamian Druids with their astrological science.
    Aargh!!!
    There's just so much awfully wrong with this that it's hard to know where to begin!
    Look at the languages, for a start off. Look into the genetic relations between Celtic, other European languages, and then read up on the Nostratic hypothesis. The Near East was full of Semitic, Hamitic, Caucasian and Sumerian speakers. Links between these and our languages are incredibly remote.

    And then look at the geography. It's a bloody long way, and is blocked by seas, mountains, deep dense forests, and legion after legion of potentially troublesome natives. Look what sort of population movements occured in recorded history, and get a better impression of what is possible in this regard.
    They had knowlege of the heavens and they built astrological sites like Stonehenge and the Pyramids which lined up with the movement of the stars.
    Stonehenge was there before the Celts came to Britain.
    Look at any map of Celt culture and you will see it didn't fall onto Europe from space, but there is a clear entrance into Europe from the bottom right hand corner, otherwise knowns as Turkey:
    The Galatians, Celts who lived in the central highlands of Anatolia, are the lads you're pointing at here. The conquest of this region by Celts is well documented in Greek writings. They only 'recently' burst into this area, and had travelled down the Danube and through the Balkans to get there.
    and artifacts from Celtic times do indeed have an Egyptian look about them:
    I beg to differ! :p

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    Source? The Celts did not come from Turkey but went there later after becoming a highly violent culture (most likely due to an impact of an asteroid) which you can see clearly on the second map. But you're right in something: Eventually seen all people in Europe have their roots in that area.
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    I stopped reading when I reached the part where the Celts built the pyramids... eyes:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Janus View Post
    Source? The Celts did not come from Turkey but went there later after becoming a highly violent culture (most likely due to an impact of an asteroid) which you can see clearly on the second map. But you're right in something: Eventually seen all people in Europe have their roots in that area.
    Na, this is saying the Celts came from the East, not entered Turkey from the West. The Celts did rule Turkey in classical times and in ancient times extended much further East. But, this theory says they migrated West through Iraq. Let me guess the origin of this idea--Norbert Juergen-Ratthofer?

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    Yeah of course-dumb ol' Europeans aren't capable of creating any culture of our own, we need our super smart overlords from the middle east to come here and 'lead' us eyes:
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    It is easy to prove or disprove. Are there Iranian bones found in Celtic burials.

    I found this out from Jim Marrs book/video Rule by Secrecy and he does say "the primitive people of Britain worshipped the mesopotamian druids" which is an odd way to describe his ancestors, if they are his ancestors.

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    Fairytale as this theory is one cannot deny that the Celts must have been deeply influenced by a non-Indoeurpean culture. Just take a look at their language, with no "habeo verbum", with lenition and a strange word order: VSO (once I started to learn it but I gave it up after several lessons). And all that dridic culture: can it originate from the old Aryan times at all?

    BTW: how do you pronounciate /selt/ or /kelt/ ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herkus View Post
    BTW: how do you pronounciate /selt/ or /kelt/ ?
    /kelt/ is the proper one by all accounts. /selt/ is just the way the basketball team pronounces it. I got thrown off by this as well, and was corrected on it lol
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    While Oswiu's debunking of those specific points is well-informed, I think there is some credibility to the idea that Neolithic Europeans were heavily linked to Mesopotamian culture - through my own study at least. Megalithic culture was shared, and the Astrological cult mindset similarly so.

    Of course, the Neolithic Britons were a seperate development to the Celtic Britons, but it is my opinion that much of Celtic culture and spirituality (the Druids for example) was strongly influenced by pre-existing Neolithic culture (and more so than we give the Neolithics credit for).

    As an example of what the Celts picked up, depictions of the Celtic god Cernunnos have been found that are far earlier than the Celts themselves. Some even postulate that 'The Sorcerer' at Trois-Frères, France - which dates to 13,000 BC - is an incredibly early depiction of the deity.
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