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    I would have to be able to read German in order to research Allgemein. It could be that they were a common person confederation also. Sometimes the Romans could have referred to different peoples as Alamanni (mostly Suevi confederation) or Germani back in history.

    The word Alamanni comes from Germanic ala manna meaning as much as all men.
    Some think that manni simply refers to people, and ala is an intensifier.

    The word is more probably composed of the Celtic, all, other, the root of Latin alius, an man, place; one of another place, a stranger.
    This definition says how the Romans would describe them.
    http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb....llemaengel.htm

    The name comes from Proto-Germanic *Alamanniz which may have one of two meanings, depending on the derivation of "Al-". If "Al-" means "all", then the name means "All men", suggesting that the tribe was a confederation of different groups. If "Al-" comes from the first element in Latin alius, "the other", then it is related to English "else" or "alien" and Alemanni means "foreign men", similar to the Allobroges tribe, whose name means "the aliens".

    In English, the name "Almain" or "Alman" was used for Germany and for the adjective German until the 16th century, with "German" first attested in 1520, used at first as an alternative then becoming a replacement. In Othello ii,3, (about 1603), for example, Shakespeare uses both "German" and "Almain" when Iago describes the drinking prowess of the English:
    *http://www.doisongso.com/Names_for_Germany.htm

    This link has good articles, but it is another forum.
    http://www.ancientworlds.net/aw/Post/492197

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    Germania was the Latin exonym for a geographical area of land on the east bank of the Rhine (inner Germania), which included regions of Sarmatia, as well as an area under Roman control on the west bank of the Rhine. The name was conceived by Romans around 2000 years ago.


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    Another term from our common past, and still kept by some of us, is that which first was used for the Teutones by the Romans.

    The same root gives us modern Deutsch, Dutch, Teutonic, Tysk (a Norse term for their southern neighbours), and others.

    Our old English form was theod which figures as an element in the names of several historical personages, such as Theodric the Flamebearer, King of Bernicia. The last name is identical to that of the Gothic King Theodoric, but is only coincidentally similar to the Greek Theodoros (Theodore, Fyodor etc.) in which the initial element is theo- meaning god, in opposition to the Germanic root for which the D is an integral element. Modern Dietrich is the same name, having gone through specifically German sound shifts. The French name Thierry is also another version. Theod was also aptly used by Tolkien for the initial element of the name of his King of Rohan, Theoden.

    Our Celtic kin have the same word, most familiar as Tuatha in the name of the Irish mythological race Tuatha De Danaan (the Folk of the Goddess Danu). The P Celts, or descendants of the ancient Britons, have lost the word as such, but it survives in possibly the most famous item of Welsh onomastica in the world: Tudor. The old Continental Celts also had their Teutates, and these examples have occasionally given rise to the suspicion that we may not be dealing with Germanics when Classical authors first began to talk of Teutones. Germano-Celtic interaction was an important part of the prehistory of both groups, so no final answers can be expected with regard to this dispute.

    Lastly, it is sometimes hazarded that the terms "Chude", "Chuknya" etc in Russian have some connection to the Celto-Germanic ethnonym. Early Slavonic contacts with the Goths and other Eastern Germanics may have resulted in this term being adopted to refer to these non-Slavonics, later to be ousted by the more specific 'Nemets' for Germanic speakers, and possibly relegated to use of only northern Finnic peoples, as we can also see in the shifting of use of the terms Aesti (most likely earlier referring to Balts, and now for the Estonian Finnics) and Veneti (formerly a western term denoting in a northwest European context the Slavs, and now used only by Baltic Finns for the Russians in particular).

    A former Skadi member used the root in its most original constructable Common Germanic form in his user name Theodiskaz. I was always quite jealous for not having thought of it myself!

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    LOMBARDS invaded Italy in 568 A.D.

    About 300'000 peoples ruled by Alboin.

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    A Lawspeaker (Swedish: lagman, Old Swedish: laghmaþer or laghman, Danish: lagmand, Norwegian: lagmann, Icelandic: lög(sögu)maður, Faroese: løgmaður) is a unique Scandinavian legal office. It has its basis in a common Germanic oral tradition, where wise men were asked to recite the law, but it was only in Scandinavia that the function evolved into an office. Two of the most famous lawspeakers are Snorri Sturluson and Þorgnýr the Lawspeaker.


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    Theodism, or Þēodisc Gelēafa (Old English: "tribal belief") is a North American variant of Germanic Neopaganism which seeks to reconstruct the beliefs and practices of several historic Northern European tribes. Initially, Theodism referred solely to Anglo-Saxon polytheism, the religion of the Anglo-Saxons which had settled in England. Now, however, the term Theodism encompasses Norman, Angle, Continental Saxon, Frisian, Jutish, Gothic, Alemannic, Swedish, Danish and other tribal variants. þéodisc is the adjective of þéod "people, tribe", cognate to deutsch.


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    Thor's Oak was an ancient tree sacred to the Germanic tribe of the Chatti, ancestors of the Hessians, and one of the most important sacred sites of the pagan Germanic peoples.

    The tree stood at a location near the village of Geismar, today part of the town of Fritzlar in northern Hesse, and was the main point of veneration of the Germanic deity Thor (known among the West Germanic tribes as Donar) by the Chatti and most other Germanic tribes. Its felling in 723 marked the beginning of the Christianization of the non-Frankish tribes of northern Germany.


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    The first mention of Bohemia in history shows that it was then populated by a Teutonic tribe, the Marcomanni. This tribe occupied a compact area in that part of present-day Czecho-Slovakia known as Bohemia which the Marcomanni called Bojerheim. That was in the fifth century and the greater part of the tribe migrated to Bavaria somewhere about A.D. 535. The similarity between the names Böhmen and Bayern (the German names for Bohemia and Bavaria) indicates the probability of a common root. After the Marcomanni had left the country their place was taken by the Teutonic Langobards and it was only when they too migrated that Slavs invaded Eastern Bohemia and the Prague district. Archaeological discoveries and local tradition are ample proof of the facts given. Their authenticity has never been questioned by English historians.
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    Germanic tribes used the word "Walha" when referring to Celtic and Romanized peoples and the word was used for naming many regions Germanics came in contact with, such as Wales, Wallonia or Walachia.

    It survived with a negative meaning in the German language up to this day, for example in the word "Kauderwelsch" to describe foreign gibberish.
    Tolerance is a proof of distrust in one's own ideals. Friedrich Nietzsche


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    The Scandinavian clan or ætt [IPA: ɛtt] in Old Norse, was a social group based on common descent or on the formal acceptance into the group at a þing.

    In the absence of a police force, the clan was the primary force of security in Norse society as the clansmen were obliged by honour to avenge one another. The Norse clan was not tied to a certain territory in the same way as a Scottish clan, where the chief owned the territory. The land of the Scandinavian clan was owned by the individuals who had close neighbours from other clans. The name of the clan was derived from that of its ancestor, often with the addition of an -ung or -ing ending.

    As central government gradually was established in Scandinavia, the ætt lost its relevance for commoners. For royalty and nobility, however, it remained in use as the name for line and dynasty.


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