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    Revival of Anglo-Saxon Language

    Is there any movement to revive the Anglo-Saxon as a spoken language? While never likely to be adopted as a major language as the revived language Hebrew did, it would be great to speak. While there are Anglo-Saxon scholars that can read and write poetry, I have not heard of any groups that speak it conversationally, nor any serious movements to use it as a spoken language.

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    Greetings, Whilst I have not heard of any large 'revivalist' groups that speak or write anglo-saxon, I did come across Anglo-Saxon as a wikipedia language page which appears to have a small group of individuals who are interested in writing and speaking Anglo-Saxon.

    http://ang.wikipedia.org

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    Just a note on this. I was recently looking through a local bookshop and found in the linguistic section a "teach yourself Old English" book with accompanying CD to learn pronunciation. This was along with all the other teach yourself titles on Swedish, German, Italian, etc. So obviously there must be some sort of revival in interests if even the major language book publishing companies are beginning to cash in.

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    Teach Yourself Old English is a good guide. I have a translation of Beowulf in Modern and Old English, which is a fantastic way to learn. My Odinist group has three or four of us who are learning or wanting to learn.

    William Barnes a Dorset poet in the late 19th century, I believe, started the Anglisc movement to replace French, Greek and Latin words with more Germanised words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Š■eling View Post
    William Barnes a Dorset poet in the late 19th century, I believe, started the Anglisc movement to replace French, Greek and Latin words with more Germanised words.
    That makes a lot more sense to me than trying to roll back the entire language several hundred years
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    I think even the Anglisc movement is/was a bridge to far, languages change there isn't much that can be done about it.

    Old English deserves at least the same recognition as Latin or Greek in English universities and maybe colleges. It is, after all, the roots of our own tongue and for English people or their colonial kin our link to our ancestors.

    There should be greater recognition of the northern languages Old English, Old Norse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by æþeling View Post
    Teach Yourself Old English is a good guide.
    How does it compare to the other guides out there? I brought a copy of An invitation to Old English by Bruce Mitchell a while back and ended up forcing myself through reems and reems of grammatical terms and laws, and eventually just lost interest and never finished the book.
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    Originally Posted by Angelcynn Beorn
    How does it compare to the other guides out there? I brought a copy of An invitation to Old English by Bruce Mitchell a while back and ended up forcing myself through reems and reems of grammatical terms and laws, and eventually just lost interest and never finished the book.
    I have Mitchell and Robinsons A Guide to Old English and that is very much grammar based as well. The thing is that you really donĺt need to know much about grammar when you start to learn a language, I would guess most people who speak their native language know little about its grammar. Later on itĺs worth learning but right at the beginning you really are put off by it all.

    Teach Yourself Old English is pretty much set out like learning a modern language but it focuses on Old English documents and gets you to learn vocabulary and word order from that. Itĺs far easier to get into.

    For me personally there is more point to learning Old English, I might use French or German once or twice in my life and lets face it an English speaker really doesnĺt have to bother learning a foreign language, at least a European one, to be understood there is always someone who speaks English, arrogant and lazy maybe but none the less fact for saying it. By contrast Old English is something I know I will use fairly frequently as I like to work with Anglo-Saxon documents and I prefer to read the actual language it was written because you do lose a lot via translation. Old Norse is the same especially if you want to read the Eddas in the original.

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    I read an excellent book (in English) by a Russian author from Moscow State University - a certain Mrs. Rastorgueva (or Rastorguyeva perhaps?), which oddly enough explained it all better to me than any text used in our universities. I don't know if it's available abroad, though. Worth a look if you're interested and can get hold of a copy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oswiu View Post
    I read an excellent book (in English) by a Russian author from Moscow State University - a certain Mrs. Rastorgueva (or Rastorguyeva perhaps?), which oddly enough explained it all better to me than any text used in our universities. I don't know if it's available abroad, though. Worth a look if you're interested and can get hold of a copy.
    Is this what you're talking about?

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