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    Thumbs Down Senate Passes "Hate Crimes" Bill

    Any hate crimes committed in the State of New York will now carry more serious penalties than ever before.

    State Assemblyman Thomas Alfano (R - North Valley Stream) announced on Monday that Governor George E. Pataki had signed into law a bill making it a Class E felony to commit a hate crime. "I'm proud that this bipartisan effort made this bill law," said Alfano. "Hate crime has no place in our communities."

    The bill, which was co-sponsored by Assemblyman William Colton (D-Brooklyn) , makes it a hate crime to put a swastika on public property or to burn a cross on public property or a private building in public view without the owner's permission. The maximum penalty for such crimes under the new law would be one to three years in prison or five years probation.

    Prior to passage of the bill, a hate crime such as graffiti on a garage door would have been classified as intentional damage of property - a Class A misdemeanor carrying a maximum penalty of a $250 fine, said Scott Cushing, Alfano's chief of staff. Alfano helped to introduce the legislation into the State Assembly after an incident in which a North Valley Stream family had swastikas and racially offensive graffiti spray painted onto the garage door of their Frances Drive home prior to their moving in.

    "I definitely support this move," said Lee Burke in an interview with the Herald when the bill was proposed. "I think it deserves more than the old penalty because [such racial discrimination] upsets the apple cart of society." Burke and her family were the victims of the act that inspired Alfano to co-sponsor the hate crime bill. Burke's home was vandalized on Martin Luther King, Jr. Day, before her family had moved in. According to police, the racially offensive graffiti had been sprayed on the garage door some time between 7 p.m. and 8:30 p.m. Burke said that personnel from Nassau County Building Maintenance arrived at her house the next day and removed the graffiti. The Burke family has since moved into the home.

    Carlton Thomas was the recipient of similar treatment on Frances Drive about two-and-a-half years ago. A native of Jamaica, Thomas had just moved to North Valley Stream from Rosedale with his wife and two young children. When a contractor who had arrived to do minor work on his house arrived at the home on Nov. 18, 2003, he saw swastikas and racially charged graffiti spray-painted on the garage door.


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    Look at this kind of legislation this way: it will rid our movement of the kind of damaging influences that exist to bring it down and put them away so decent folkish people can get on with building the movement. What movement? The White Consciousness Movement. That can't be illegal because there is a Black Consciousness Movement. And unless they want their petty legislative obsessions to extend themselves to their favoured equity groups there should be no restriction on anyone starting and building folkish movements. If there is then the Afro-centric movements, the special negro colleges and funds ( http://www.uncf.org/ ) the Muslim business directories, the special food and slaughter religious laws, the prayer time allowances, the incitement to violence against Christians and Jews and "infidels", violent anti white rap lyrics and the special school and languages institution must also end. As they will be as racially motivated and racially aggravating as any that pertain to whites or Europeans.

    If legislation in their multicultural social democracy is truly egalitarian then white people, men, non socialists, non religious fundamentalists and European culture will have equal representation on the same ethnic levels as the favoured groups do. If not then litigation can and should be brought to bear upon those attempting to work on a system of "one law for us and another one for you". That is not social democracy, that is tyranny.

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    equality and multicultralist democratic legislation are like fire and water.. It's just one of the many moves in the direction of legal persecution of the white race. And still we do nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [s.o.s.]
    equality and multiculturalist democratic legislation are like fire and water.. It's just one of the many moves in the direction of legal persecution of the white race. And still we do nothing.
    I agree.

    Look at this kind of legislation this way: it will rid our movement of the kind of damaging influences that exist to bring it down and put them away so decent folkish people can get on with building the movement.
    Unfortunately the hypocrisy of it will only breed more angry people. It is sad when the brutish idiots who can't see the counter productiveness of their words and actions are (mostly) the only one's with the guts to stand up in a way that many will notice. In silence we will be overcome.
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    Oh, Sifsvana I hope not. Not if some of my magic (not all magic is unreal) will help a sleeping court. Help the hero-prince to cut through the overgrowth of thorns and brambles to reach the Beauty of the Dawn. There was a curse, yes, in the story, but there was also one other fairy's intervention. We must help that other wish to manifest itself and I feel that the way to do this and reveal the folktale's complex message is to help that prince. He is the one, in his many manifestations across the nations. He will wake the princess and she will restore the world. Every folktale contains a legend and a message. They wrapped them up to get beyond the Church and the tyrants. The ordinary people living near the gods and spirits gave us these. We must use them and unravel them and tell them to the children. Aurora is coming, the prince is coming. We are entering Ragnarok which is an age of heroes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigrid
    Oh, Sifsvina I hope not. Not if some of my magic (not all magic is unreal) will help a sleeping court. Help the hero-prince to cut through the overgrowth of thorns and brambles to reach the Beauty of the Dawn. There was a curse, yes, in the story, but there was also one other fairy's intervention. We must help that other wish to manifest itself and I feel that the way to do this and reveal the folktales complex message is to help that prince. He is the one, in his many manifestations across the nations. He will wake the princess and she will restore the world. Every folktale contains a legend and a message. They wrapped them up to get beyond the Church and the tyrants. The ordinary people living near the gods and spirits gave us these. We must use them and unravel them and tell them to the children. Aurora is coming, the prince is coming. We are entering Ragnarök which is an age of heroes.
    And the bones of so many brave men hang in the thorns, their only mistake trying before the one and only right day. The ending of fairytale curses is awash in struggle and blood, only the new fairy tales leave that part out. A gentle awakening would be sweet but that's not how it will happen, it will be a wrenching awake like from a nightmare, awash in sweat, with bodies all around. I have been told this clearly by many beings and the truth of it vibrates up the web. Our heroes will not show up looking like fairytale princes, they will have blood on their hands. *shudder* I don't need to see this right now, I need to be somewhere less rotten, somewhere where I can practice my own "magic";-)
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    I'm happy to tell you that you are wrong. I by no means told a tale of "fairy princes." I told a tale of heroes and every man is his own hero when the time is right. Stop telling people they will have to die. It will not come to this. This is macabre and usually prompted by national socialism which is steeped in gothic horror today and adores blood as a necessity of victory. Please have better dreams.

    The heroes of tomorrow are the princes in waiting of today. All those ordinary men and women who will rise against a crushing and unacceptable fascism and say "enough".

    Arise princes and peasants alike. The future awaits only you. All it takes is the will not to surrender your will and the future is yours. No more blood and gore and torn flesh. That has already happened. You are witnessing the past as I have also witnessed it. I have seen the bodies rising from the mud floor of forests trying to tell their story after Charlemagne. These are the horrors of Urd's web. Some future heroes will be banged up in prisons where the only thing taken from them will be their freedom. But others will come and soon the powers that be won't be able to stop them and then, and only, then, will our day arrive. The future wars will all be economic, the warriors are consumers and the resistance consumer resistance. Our world has changed.

    Most importantly, have no fear. I too have had dreams and they are all good. They speak of trees laden with fruit, of children lead by a wolf and of a rose tree climbing tall from a grave. Be strong. The future is inevitable and waiting to be occupied by you.

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    I see what I see, you see what you see, say you disagree all you like but please don't tell me your vision is correct and mine wrong, they may both be right at different times and places.
    I didn't say they had to die! I just think it is wishful thinking to say that it will be a bloodless victory. Our world has not changed that much, we are still human.
    I had many of these visions before I knew what National Socialism was (I come from a very hippie, liberal, all the world is love kinda upbringing) and I actually think the opposite and think NS (in it's original form not most modern interpretations) provided all sorts of positive folk building ideas and actions. (but lets not get into the pros and cons, facts and falsehoods of NS)

    I do have positive dreams and hopes, this is a vision, I am warning so those hopes and dreams have more of a chance of coming true, a shout to wake the heroes in each of us, just as you are in a slightly different way. (I said nothing of "fairy princes" but hero princes from fairy/folktales) Some will be the fighters, some have other tasks, but all people need to be less afraid of specter of violence and death, not that it should encourage it but "they" need to stop being cowards controlled by the fear that someone may call them meany. Life is a cycle, blood, pain and death, is all part of that cycle.

    Conscious consumerism is a good tool but if that is all we can do we are doomed! How many people actually have the strength, time, and resources to not buy any products that hurt us? I'm moving to a place where I can be better but it's almost impossible to not buy at least something made in china, kosher, by a company with money in the wrong things, etc unless you are in a completely isolated society.

    I too have had dreams and they are all good. They speak of trees laden with fruit, of children lead by a wolf and of a rose tree climbing tall from a grave.
    It's good to know you see that, I don't get clear visions of that time, though I have had some bits, I get visions of what goes into that grave. I have a feeling I will not live to see that world you see but will die making it possible. I don't say this to be dramatic or macabre, boastful or shocking, it's just a matter of fact thing to me that I have no problem with at all. If you don't want to look in the grave that's fine, that's my task, but you do see that the grave is there.

    I'll be gone for the weekend, off to do a Balder ritual. How's that for hope for the new world;-)
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    I am not afraid to look in a grave as I have looked into my own so many times. Many people from the younger generation see themselves as bloody victims who will die young. I blame it squarely in this confounded cult dark goth black metal crap music culture. Get rid of it, it's full of negativity.

    No one is going to kill any of you. You are all going to live out whatever lives are allotted to you and you must start to work inside a movement that will make this happen in a very sane, possible manner with absolutely no conspiracy theories or anarchist bullsh*t to clog the works. And my gods is there enough of it being propagated by annoying ignorant negative a-holes I could strangle every day.

    This is my old bag's advice, before I put up my umbrella in a changing wind and leave for what lies in the grass and hasn't been spotted yet.

    People, put off the music, for a start. The silence and the lack of all that corpse ridden, grave obsessed, blood soaked rubbish will heal you and you will step out of this black coloured fugue. I'm not the first person to realise the problems inherent in the black metal phenomenon and I won't be the last. It reeks of death and destruction. The voices are all hoarse and ugly and from the crypt, the accoutrement's are all violent and violence oriented. It's mostly about war and death and putrefaction and it has the intellect of a fossilised dung beetle. Frankly, I think it sucks big time and is negative and past its sell by date.

    Go for the sun. We are the people of the sun. I am also sick of certain Heathen groups who promote so much utter crap they have wound a good idea up in mummy rags. As far as I can see all this will die of its own disease.

    But soon - a new world. Be a part of it. Say no to everything you can say no to but remember to say yes to what you want, even if you can't have it. Call it to you, invoke it. It's yours if you can make it happen. We are of an ancient culture that believed we make our own good news. We can also make our own bad news which I see everywhere all the time. It's got to stop. Much as I detest humanity, I can't tell it a lie. Survival is possible, you just have to have the right key to the right door or you're screwed. And only hard work at what you want will get it for you if you aren't rich. And if you get rich, only a memory lapse will lose you your power. That is what is wrong with people, they have short memories and long feuds, an anomaly, but part of the reason why they cannot understand their own nature nor the reality of millions of others who are neither superior nor inferior but rather just radically different while sharing basic characteristics.

    One either learns to accept the situation of being here in one's own skin or one gives up on it. To me it is neither here not there, I just hate to see what has been made destroyed by greedy stupid idiots who believe in someone else's ideology to the point where they are willing to kill to keep it alive. They worship a tree with cancer and you eventually realise that it is the cancer they worship. But they are on the way out, whether they think so or not. Another tree is coming, this one is whole.

    First - Ragnarok. Prepare. Then Idavoll. Make plans.

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