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  • Not allow the mixed to breed at all

    11 29.73%
  • Allow them to breed with anyone

    6 16.22%
  • Allow them to breed with the race whose characteristics they have the most of

    9 24.32%
  • Allow them to breed with whichever race of theirs has the highest percent, if they are 3 or more races

    1 2.70%
  • Only allow them to breed with people of the same mix

    4 10.81%
  • Only allow them to breed with people of the some of, but not all of the races, and no "other" races.

    6 16.22%
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    Question Racial Purity and the Already Mixed: What Would YOU Allow?

    All this talk of purity and I can't find anything on "what to do" about the ones of us, or anyone, who is already mixed. If it were up to you to create a law, would you... I'll let each one of you make your own definition of mixed. Please don't see the word "breed" as an animalistic thing, I use it because not everyone who has children gets married. To determine racial heritage, we'd use DNA testing.
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    Post Re: Racial Purity and the Already Mixed

    We have the technology. We can build the SuperMan. Would you like me to edit your poll to Build the SuperMan?
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    Post Re: Racial Purity and the Already Mixed

    Nature abhors the bastardization of any species, whether it is man or otherwise. Following from that natural aversion to miscegenation, humankind should again follow the natural path as it did before and also consciously aid the natural forces that have a eugenic effect upon our people. It can be as simple as giving social incentives to the best and brightest of our race for them to reproduce.

    Thus no interracial breeding would be allowed in a healthy society, coupled with the perfectly natural sense of xenophobia that each race possesses regarding other races, said healthy society would easily be able to reverse the dysgenic effects wrought upon our people over the past half-century.

    I am only concerned with my particular race. I don't care whether or not the lesser races miscegenate. If mixed non-Whites want to breed with other non-Whites, it doesn't affect me.

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    Post Re: Racial Purity and the Already Mixed

    I think races are transient - like any species. There is a trend towards self-preservation, but there is also a trend towards assimilation of desirable aliens to oneself. Both trends exist.

    I don't have any super-race in particular in mind. I think humanity could evolve in a variety of directions. I'd like to see semi-aquatic/amphibian adapted humans who could live on land or in water.

    The races discussed on this forum are humans adapted for pastoralism, or hunting/gathering, agriculture - or nowadays adapted to urban technological lifestyles. Subraces have adapted for these things, and all people (regardless of how they are categorized, or if they are mixed from prior types) are in the process of adapting to their environment. I think humans have not reached the optimum for urban living yet.

    Many of the traits that are optimal for urban life are not Nordic at all. I find highly urbanized people to be shallow and obnoxious. Think of the typical New Yorker or Parisian. This is not a coincidence - urbanity selects for certain types.

    The most urbanized populations in the world are where urbanizing selective pressures have existed the longest: China, Middle East.

    Some of the least urbanized peoples would be Amazonian Indians, African Congo Pygmies, isolated groups in th Arctic - who have had little contact with urban humans. Nomadic pastoralists have long histories of interaction with urbanites, however.

    So when discussing the superman - one must ask superman for what scenario? The perfect ideal mate of an individual? This is interesting, but rather limited. One must think in terms of adaptation to a specific niche- which is how real types emerge in Nature.
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    Post Re: Racial Purity and the Already Mixed

    Zarathustra-
    I am only concerned with my particular race. I don't care whether or not the lesser races miscegenate. If mixed non-Whites want to breed with other non-Whites, it doesn't affect me.
    It does affect you. The resources on this planet are finite. The more people the less resources to go around. In this particular poll I voted that mixed-breeds should not be allowed to reproduce.

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    Post Re: Racial Purity and the Already Mixed

    another question, what do you consider to be mixed?
    To me mixed is black and white, asian and white, asian and black, etc.. There is also "mixed white" Nordic and Brunn mix, Alpine and Med, etc... (main and subtype varying with the individuals)
    So, to me, a lot of you are mixed, but still white.
    Take me for example. You classified: (I did not include country-classifications)
    Me : Alpine + Med, Subnordic Alpinid, Brunn + N. Atlantid,
    Mother : East Baltic, Borreby, Subnordic, Alpinid (Borreby mentioned twice)
    Father : Atlanto-Med + Brunn (unanimous)
    So, how does THAT add up?
    To those of you who chose the first one, how much do YOU know of your ancestry?
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    Post Re: Racial Purity and the Already Mixed

    Quote Originally Posted by Krampus
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    It does affect you. The resources on this planet are finite. The more people the less resources to go around. In this particular poll I voted that mixed-breeds should not be allowed to reproduce.
    You are preaching to the choir.

    Of course the resources of this planet are finite. The more there are of them, the more tightly we, in turn, will be squeezed. All I was getting at is that I do not care if their population is racially homogenous or not. Usually non-White populations are, anyway.

    When a race's birth rate is high, then also its death rate must be high, or it must expand at the expense of another race. The same holds true all the way down the evolutionary spectrum.

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    Post Re: Racial Purity and the Already Mixed

    Quote Originally Posted by Elistariel
    another question, what do you consider to be mixed?
    To me mixed is black and white, asian and white, asian and black, etc.. There is also "mixed white" Nordic and Brunn mix, Alpine and Med, etc... (main and subtype varying with the individuals)
    So, to me, a lot of you are mixed, but still white.
    Take me for example. You classified: (I did not include country-classifications)
    Me : Alpine + Med, Subnordic Alpinid, Brunn + N. Atlantid,
    Mother : East Baltic, Borreby, Subnordic, Alpinid (Borreby mentioned twice)
    Father : Atlanto-Med + Brunn (unanimous)
    So, how does THAT add up?
    To those of you who chose the first one, how much do YOU know of your ancestry?
    To be overly obsessed with European amalgamation is absurd, there is no point in excluding Whites of any ancestry. Many of the European Whites today are Nord-Alpino themselves.

    I know my geneology back 25 generations. My grandfather served with the 5th Waffen-SS "Wiking" in the 9th Panzergrenadiers, "Germania", as an enlisted man. For the original enlisted men of the SS the Reich Security Office was responsible for verifying that they were of equitable racial stock - and for officers, the standard was even more stringent.

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    Post Re: Racial Purity and the Already Mixed

    I know my ancestry up into BC, with parts missing, thus, some of my ancestry is info that has been verbally passed down.

    I am (the most recent ones - no more than 50 generations back):
    German, Scottish, English, Irish, Dutch, French, Swedish, Italian, and possible - not proven American Indian.

    Which of these, if you could, would you place me under?
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    Post Re: Racial Purity and the Already Mixed

    Elistariel-
    To those of you who chose the first one, how much do YOU know of your ancestry?
    I'm quite confident that I am of 100% white European ancestry from Northwestern Europe with some relatives coming from Swabia, which I suppose could be considered Central Europe. The only branch I have reached a dead end on is my Grandfather's mother who was an immigrant from Germany and a Protestant. I have no reason to think she was a Jewish convert, which to my knowledge would have been the only non-white present in Germany at that time. I have no native American ancestry nor any Negro in my lineage. To clarify the ancestors who were more than three generations back living in the US did not come from the South they were from Canada, New England and Pennsylvania. My heritage by ethnicity is the following: 3/8th's English, 3/8th's German and 1/4th Ulster-Scot.

    A mixed breed to me would be on a broader scale, I would not consider someone who couldn't be categorized in one discreet sub racial type for white Europeans to be a mixed breed. I do think certain sub racial types are more compatible with each other than other sub racial types.

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