View Poll Results: Are you pan-Germanic?

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  • Yes, I support the creation of a pan-Germanic state uniting all Germanic peoples

    66 24.91%
  • Yes, a "federal union" of Germanic states like the EU. Germanics live & work where they like

    55 20.75%
  • Yes, a "federal union" of Germanic states like the EU. Limited inter-migration to keep diversity

    33 12.45%
  • No, independence. Only loose military alliances are OK. Free trade between Germanics is OK

    73 27.55%
  • No, independence. Limited or zero trade & migration between Germanic states.

    12 4.53%
  • Other (please specify).

    26 9.81%
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Thread: Nationalism or Pan-Germanicism? / Inter-Germanic Unity or Inter-Germanic Aparthood?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juthunge View Post
    In any case concerning general foreign policy(be it economical or militarily) towards outsiders union, for starters.
    So, that "council" would be a rod with which to bully and corner Germany.

    "Militarily", we -- I am talking about the future fantasy world in which Germany is sovereign again -- need to assert ourselves against the Russians. But for this, we don't need a "council" in which Danes and Swedes would tell us what we must do. We just need atom bombs.
    Quote Originally Posted by Juthunge View Post
    Since when is free population movement a prerequisite for economical, political or even cultural cooperation?
    Oh, since serfdom was abolished. That was, in Germany, between 1807 and 1832.

    The Deutsche Zollverein (German Customs Union) was founded in 1834, after all feudal restrictions and limitations had been lifted and removed.

    Full then years later in 1844, the Mainzer Adelsverein at Biebrich am Rhein, Verein zum Schutze Deutscher Einwanderer in Texas (Society for the Protection of German Immigrants in Texas) was founded. At that time, in 1844, Texas did not belong to the USA, and the German noblemen were hoping they could set up there a German colony, and uphold its independence.

    And would you please stop calling me a "starter". That is quite offending. I am sure I am older than you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spjabork View Post
    So, that "council" would be a rod with which to bully and corner Germany.

    "Militarily", we -- I am talking about the future fantasy world in which Germany is sovereign again -- need to assert ourselves against the Russians. But for this, we don't need a "council" in which Danes and Swedes would tell us what we must do. We just need atom bombs.
    If a nation the size and power of Germany lets itself voluntarily be bullied by smaller nations in a council, it deserved so, to be honest. But I don’t see why Swedes and Danes would not have a self-interest in countering Russia. They’re geographically as close or far to them as we are. And a common threat is the safest(only?) guarantee for cooperation.


    Oh, since serfdom was abolished. That was, in Germany, between 1807 and 1832.

    The Deutsche Zollverein (German Customs Union) was founded in 1834, after all feudal restrictions and limitations had been lifted and removed.

    Full then years later in 1844, the Mainzer Adelsverein at Biebrich am Rhein, Verein zum Schutze Deutscher Einwanderer in Texas (Society for the Protection of German Immigrants in Texas) was founded. At that time, in 1844, Texas did not belong to the USA, and the German noblemen were hoping they could set up there a German colony, and uphold its independence.
    I know all of this but what does it have to do with the topic at hand? You’re speaking about unification within a single ethnicity there, while we were speaking about a cultural, economic and military cooperation between different Germanic nations. I still fail to see, how indiscriminate movement and mixture is a necessary prerequisite of that.

    And would you please stop calling me a "starter". That is quite offending. I am sure I am older than you.
    It’s merely a “filler” idiom. No offense intended.
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    I would support a referendum in Germanic countries with those options or similar ones. Whatever Germanics vote for, should be respected. Germanics lived as many separate tribes in the past, but also united as empires. Either option is alright as long as Germanics cooperate and respect each other's will.

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    I picked option #1. I want something like the Commonwealth of Germanic Nations, so the present British membership criteria ought to be restricted to Germanic peoples. I don't want the headquarters to be in London, but in Hedeby, to unite all the Germanic folks in the European homeland of the Angles, drawing in both England and New England.

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    I would support a loose alliance between Germanic countries, with each country having its own national laws and decisions and Germanics having a special status (to work and live in other Germanic countries). I don't think mass immigration would be a big issue, Germanics are usually industrious people who don't immigrate purely for economic reasons. Those who have immigrated have established themselves and created successful communities elsewhere.

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    Ethnic Anglo-Saxons should have our own nationalist movement because:

    1) The truth is that IRL most Germans, Afrikaners, & Dutch do not feel any comparable affinity for us in comparison to what they feel towards each other (probably in part because our language is so distinct).

    2) There's more than enough of us to build our own movement.

    3) We have a distinctive mindset and, due to this, any movement that is excessively 'Germanistic' will just repel the average Brit, Canadian, etc.

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    I think each Germanic country should keep it's independence, it's own languages, and it's own laws, but be allied with all the other Germanic countries. Immigration within all the Germanic countries should be limited to only Germanics. There should be free trade.
    Expel all the blacks, Moslems, and tell the Jews to move to Israel. Demolish all the mosques and synagogues. Maintain the Christian churches because they were built by our ancestors.

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    I'm an American so the idea of a pan German Union appeals to me. Europeans might not agree.

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