View Poll Results: Are you pan-Germanic?

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  • Yes, I support the creation of a pan-Germanic state uniting all Germanic peoples

    65 25.19%
  • Yes, a "federal union" of Germanic states like the EU. Germanics live & work where they like

    53 20.54%
  • Yes, a "federal union" of Germanic states like the EU. Limited inter-migration to keep diversity

    32 12.40%
  • No, independence. Only loose military alliances are OK. Free trade between Germanics is OK

    70 27.13%
  • No, independence. Limited or zero trade & migration between Germanic states.

    12 4.65%
  • Other (please specify).

    26 10.08%
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Thread: Nationalism or Pan-Germanicism? / Inter-Germanic Unity or Inter-Germanic Aparthood?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juthunge View Post
    In any case concerning general foreign policy(be it economical or militarily) towards outsiders union, for starters.
    So, that "council" would be a rod with which to bully and corner Germany.

    "Militarily", we -- I am talking about the future fantasy world in which Germany is sovereign again -- need to assert ourselves against the Russians. But for this, we don't need a "council" in which Danes and Swedes would tell us what we must do. We just need atom bombs.
    Quote Originally Posted by Juthunge View Post
    Since when is free population movement a prerequisite for economical, political or even cultural cooperation?
    Oh, since serfdom was abolished. That was, in Germany, between 1807 and 1832.

    The Deutsche Zollverein (German Customs Union) was founded in 1834, after all feudal restrictions and limitations had been lifted and removed.

    Full then years later in 1844, the Mainzer Adelsverein at Biebrich am Rhein, Verein zum Schutze Deutscher Einwanderer in Texas (Society for the Protection of German Immigrants in Texas) was founded. At that time, in 1844, Texas did not belong to the USA, and the German noblemen were hoping they could set up there a German colony, and uphold its independence.

    And would you please stop calling me a "starter". That is quite offending. I am sure I am older than you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spjabork View Post
    So, that "council" would be a rod with which to bully and corner Germany.

    "Militarily", we -- I am talking about the future fantasy world in which Germany is sovereign again -- need to assert ourselves against the Russians. But for this, we don't need a "council" in which Danes and Swedes would tell us what we must do. We just need atom bombs.
    If a nation the size and power of Germany lets itself voluntarily be bullied by smaller nations in a council, it deserved so, to be honest. But I don’t see why Swedes and Danes would not have a self-interest in countering Russia. They’re geographically as close or far to them as we are. And a common threat is the safest(only?) guarantee for cooperation.


    Oh, since serfdom was abolished. That was, in Germany, between 1807 and 1832.

    The Deutsche Zollverein (German Customs Union) was founded in 1834, after all feudal restrictions and limitations had been lifted and removed.

    Full then years later in 1844, the Mainzer Adelsverein at Biebrich am Rhein, Verein zum Schutze Deutscher Einwanderer in Texas (Society for the Protection of German Immigrants in Texas) was founded. At that time, in 1844, Texas did not belong to the USA, and the German noblemen were hoping they could set up there a German colony, and uphold its independence.
    I know all of this but what does it have to do with the topic at hand? You’re speaking about unification within a single ethnicity there, while we were speaking about a cultural, economic and military cooperation between different Germanic nations. I still fail to see, how indiscriminate movement and mixture is a necessary prerequisite of that.

    And would you please stop calling me a "starter". That is quite offending. I am sure I am older than you.
    It’s merely a “filler” idiom. No offense intended.
    "And in the shock of battle the men of the North seemed like a sea that cannot be moved. Firmly they stood, one close to another, forming as it were a bulwark of ice, and with great blows of their swords they hewed down the Arabs. Drawn up in a band around their chief, the people of the Austrasians carried all before them. Their tireless hands drove their swords down to the breasts of the foe." - The Mozarabic Chronicle of 754, about the Germanic victory at the Battle of Tours.

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    I would support a referendum in Germanic countries with those options or similar ones. Whatever Germanics vote for, should be respected. Germanics lived as many separate tribes in the past, but also united as empires. Either option is alright as long as Germanics cooperate and respect each other's will.

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    I picked option #1. I want something like the Commonwealth of Germanic Nations, so the present British membership criteria ought to be restricted to Germanic peoples. I don't want the headquarters to be in London, but in Hedeby, to unite all the Germanic folks in the European homeland of the Angles, drawing in both England and New England.
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