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    Yeah. Istigkeit already pointed that out to me. I knew it was 1776, but I get confused with centuries. :p hehe


    Quote Originally Posted by Americ
    The Americans wanted independence for a number of reasons. The British set aside a great deal of territory - everything between the Appalachians & the Mississippi as an Indian reserve. The British began to impose taxes an the Americans. The Americans had pretty much tax themselves before. After the expulsion of France from the mainland of North America, we didn't need the British to defend us. Mainly they objected to being ruled by a parliament more then 3,000 miles across the Atlantic. Not all Americans wanted independence, probably at most 1/3 at the start of the American Revolution, but support probably went up during the war, due to the wartime actions of the British.

    So why did Australia become independent of Britain? And New Zealand. Yes, you all still share the same Queen, but for all practical purposes Australia & New Zealand are independent countries. And why did New Zealand reject becoming a member of the Australian federation? There would seem to a lot of blood ties between the 3 countries.
    I disagree that we are a totally independent country. Australia is still a constitutional monarchy, with the Queen as our head of state. And it is she who ultimately appoints our Governor General, who represents her directly on Australian soil. Culturally and socially we are still close to Britain... and the only ones who really attempt to down-play such bonds are non-British immigrants... obviously... but luckily the vast majority of our immigrants are still from England.



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    Ouch! I think someone has been a bad influence on you Bridie.
    Actually, I think my opinion is common enough in Australia. :p The bad influence must be my own people then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weisthor View Post
    Did you know that there's actually more americans from German decent than from "British" decent? So how does that make "americans" kin with the british? The U.S. being a composite nation made out many ethnicities, I don't see how kinship might be claimed with anyone.
    This isn't true, the majority of Americans are English!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weisthor View Post
    Did you know that there's actually more americans from German decent than from "British" decent? So how does that make "americans" kin with the british? The U.S. being a composite nation made out many ethnicities, I don't see how kinship might be claimed with anyone.
    Well i see your manifest clearly, however to analyse USA and its population is however deranged from my point of view, but let that rest. My statement is solely that USA has been more open (due to an infantile culture on baby degree) and hebraically-friendly to oppostion and thus the aftermath towards Germany and kindred towards England/France whatever....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frigg View Post
    This isn't true, the majority of Americans are English!
    Not quite. Euro-Americans - not counting Jews or Arabs & other Middle Easterners - make up about 62.5% of the population (non-Hispanic "White" is 66% & White counting "White Hispanic"[most of whom have significant Amerindian or Africanancestry] is around 75%). I would say over half the Euro-Americans are of predominately English descent with many of the others of partial English descent. Most persons of English descent in America have some other Germanic or Celtic admixture. And many persons of German or Scandinavia descent have some English ancestry. For example Charles Lindbergh (btw, that him in my avatar) is usually refered to as Swedish-American, even though his mother was of Old American (English/British) descent. But not all Euro-Americans have English ancestry & for those who it is the predominate part of their ancestry, may make up 30% to 40% of the population.

    But most Americans of English descent do not consider themselves English. There are many reasons for this, one of them being that English-Americans have been in this country for such a long time that most Anglo-American families have no folk memory of having ever lived anywhere else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by a.squiggles View Post
    well, for one, americans speak english. even if ethnic ties are limited there's certainly linguistic kinship which can not be discounted. culture evolves with and through language, so no matter how german the germans getting off the ships were, their descendants are english now
    If we go by your logic then some negro who speaks english can claim kinship too? I know I'm pushing a bit, but this is to illustrate my point.

    Quote Originally Posted by a.squiggles View Post
    who started WW2? who lost WW2? last i checked it was nazi germany. if anything was ruined in the process, nazis were the ones who did it.
    Check your facts, France and England declared war on Germany. Germany did NOT start WWII. In fact Germany tried to avoid war at all costs.

    Quote Originally Posted by a.squiggles View Post
    you should've said so from the start: you guys are fed up and tired of fighting (to seemingly no avail) against something bigger and more powerful that you, and you're just using Frigg to vent your frustration.
    Ad hominem = worthless in a debate.

    Quote Originally Posted by Frigg View Post
    This isn't true, the majority of Americans are English!
    Check your facts:

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...-by-County.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Weisthor View Post
    If we go by your logic then some negro who speaks english can claim kinship too? I know I'm pushing a bit, but this is to illustrate my point.
    yes. middle class blacks, in canada at least, are culturally closer to england than they are to africa (and here i don't mean recent immigrants who can't even speak english properly), so if they were to claim kinship with any culture outside north america, they'd have the strongest case for england.

    Check your facts, France and England declared war on Germany. Germany did NOT start WWII. In fact Germany tried to avoid war at all costs.
    so invading poland is "tryign to avoid war at all costs"?
    there's started and there's started, may be they did not pass the resolution in their parliament first, but it is clear they had every intention to go to war.

    Ad hominem = worthless in a debate.
    looks better as "ad hominem = essential to debate"...at least in reference to this one.
    but what a great time you choose to bring up its usage! i didn't see you complaining about this or any others directed at frigg:

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    people like you did indeed ruin any chance of our race being prosperous and free for quite a while.
    i just like paying back in the same coin...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weisthor View Post
    In fact Germany tried to avoid war at all costs.
    This is absolutely not true, Germany tried to avoid war, but surely not at all costs, that would be quite anti-life and anti-NS.

    @ a.squiggles, Germany started the Polish-German war, and the Soviet-German war, there is started, and there's started, and Britain and France started theirs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by a.squiggles View Post
    yes. middle class blacks, in canada at least, are culturally closer to england than they are to africa (and here i don't mean recent immigrants who can't even speak english properly), so if they were to claim kinship with any culture outside north america, they'd have the strongest case for england.
    Quote Originally Posted by Etymology Online
    kin O.E. cyn "family, race, kind, nature," from P.Gmc. *kunjan (cf. O.N. kyn, O.H.G. chunni, Goth. kuni "family, race," O.N. kundr "son," Ger. kind "child"), from PIE *gen- "to produce" (see genus). Kinship is a modern word, first attested 1833 in writing of Mrs. Browning.
    A negro has no kinship with the English, and you don't either.

    Quote Originally Posted by a.squiggles View Post
    so invading poland is "tryign to avoid war at all costs"?
    there's started and there's started, may be they did not pass the resolution in their parliament first, but it is clear they had every intention to go to war.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jäger View Post
    This is absolutely not true, Germany tried to avoid war, but surely not at all costs, that would be quite anti-life and anti-NS.

    @ a.squiggles, Germany started the Polish-German war, and the Soviet-German war, there is started, and there's started, and Britain and France started theirs.
    No Germany did not start the Polish-German war:

    http://www.jrbooksonline.com/polish_atrocities.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by a.squiggles View Post


    so invading poland is "tryign to avoid war at all costs"?
    there's started and there's started, may be they did not pass the resolution in their parliament first, but it is clear they had every intention to go to war.
    I HAVE TO SAY MY VIEWS HERE!

    have you forgotten the ethnic cleansing of Germans in Poland, they started! and have your forgotten the complex territorial disputes that Germany suffered under after First World War? Surrounding all German areas almost. What makes you say all this? Poland consist mostly of Slavs compared to the old time Noble Germans and was just a thorn in the over-all side and still is till this day. I bet the border guards are yelling HURRAAA they are in EU shit threshold as well. together with us In the same snare and yet some sort of distinction between us has to take place? But indeed those bastards stole some important land from my people and can never forgive them that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weisthor View Post
    A negro has no kinship with the English, and you don't either.
    i disagree on the first point there (with conditions).
    entirely in agreement on the second, of course, as i have absolutely no connection with england....although i fail to see the relevance :
    were you saying something i missed?

    kin·ship (knshp) KEY

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    Connection by blood, marriage, or adoption; family relationship.
    Relationship by nature or character; affinity.
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    Originally Posted by Hellstar
    have you forgotten the ethnic cleansing of Germans in Poland, they started! and have your forgotten the complex territorial disputes that Germany suffered under after First World War?
    well, the first point i was not aware of. i was aware of the second, which is why i think they wanted war.

    But indeed those bastards stole some important land from my people and can never forgive them that.
    aren't you danish?

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