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    Quote Originally Posted by Norseman View Post
    essentially you take two bricks (or any flat, heavy, straight surface) turn them vertically, and stick your head lengthwise or widthwise between them....bring bricks together till snug, remove head, then measure (make sure to measure from where the gradients on the ruler begin, not where the actual plastic begins)

    give it a try, I'd love to hear how it works
    Quote Originally Posted by Norseman View Post
    what's the verdict Leofric?

    I'm quite interested in seeing how similar the two are
    Well that's the same basic design I used to whip up some makeshift calipers. The calipers I made were quite like these:

    To me it seems like that's close enough to the same design as what you're describing that there's no need to test it.

    The only potential problem I can think of with either design is that you just about have to be measured by someone else in order to ensure that measurements are being taken from the proper points. It's hard, for example, for a person to see where the furthest extension on the back of his own head is located.

    Godiva & I measured each other and then when I got together with my brothers (one of whom was a rather frequent unregistered lurker in the anthropology fora at Skadi) we all measured one another with some better calipers — the results were the same as the previous measurements Godiva and I had taken within an acceptable tolerance of error.

    I think that taking actual measurements is the best way to really make a proper classification for someone. And with the aid of sites like Dienekes Racial Analysis Calculator, analysis of the measurements taken (and subsequent classification) can become trivially simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leofric View Post
    The only potential problem I can think of with either design is that you just about have to be measured by someone else in order to ensure that measurements are being taken from the proper points. It's hard, for example, for a person to see where the furthest extension on the back of his own head is located.


    I think that taking actual measurements is the best way to really make a proper classification for someone. And with the aid of sites like Dienekes Racial Analysis Calculator, analysis of the measurements taken (and subsequent classification) can become trivially simple.
    agreed, measurements are of utmost importance.


    and I can see how you might run into the problem of measurement difficulty, but I'm pretty confident that I can find the furthest point of my head....I've spent many hours trying


    glad to see the brick method get's the Leofric seal of approval:

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    http://paleo-tech.com/

    Click on paleo-tech instruments link at top of splash page. I bought one of his spreading calipers about 6 years ago. Hand makes each one and a pleasure to deal with. Device is kinda pricey but works beautifully... What a head-turner(!!) at parties! Especially parties of two. Perfect for proving my anthropological "bones"(!) and pretending I'm fun in a single swooosh... Back in Poland in a week, but don't wanna deal with the inevitable TSA hassle, so won't take it this time. It's great, though, for that living skulls coffee table book you've been working on. Or one of us.
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    Calipers

    Someone mentioned buying Calipers off "The Bay" so I looked there myself.

    I'm not sure which ones I'm meant to get, so I figured I'd ask here. Should I just get normal ones or does there exist special Cranial Calipers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elysium View Post
    Someone mentioned buying Calipers off "The Bay" so I looked there myself.

    I'm not sure which ones I'm meant to get, so I figured I'd ask here. Should I just get normal ones or does there exist special Cranial Calipers?

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    You should really ask for a classification if you are interested in knowing what type you are. Metrics are only of secondary importance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricky Roma View Post
    You should really ask for a classification if you are interested in knowing what type you are. Metrics are only of secondary importance.
    How does that work? I find it strange that interpretations of one's sub-race is more accurate than actual measurements. Perhaps measurements are not always correct and one could have Med. measurements while being of another sub-race?

    Either way, I don't want my photo on the internet - yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elysium View Post
    How does that work? I find it strange that interpretations of one's sub-race is more accurate than actual measurements. Perhaps measurements are not always correct and one could have Med. measurements while being of another sub-race?

    Either way, I don't want my photo on the internet - yet.
    Morphological resemblances detected by trained people (not just someone who claims things) can be demonstrated by photographic material and offer a great deal of accuracy.

    You can have persons with similar measurements who are quite different morphologically (for instance Bruenns and Atlanto Meds are often dolichocephalic albeit totally different).

    I understand if you dont want to post pictures and I agree. You can also learn to classify yourself by studying types and so forth.


    http://www.snpa.nordish.net/troephotos.htm
    www.amorsite.shorturl.com

    If you want to measure your head that wont do you any harm, but dont expect it to answer all your questions.

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    Thank you a lot for the links you've provided and your help regarding calipers and taxonomy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elysium View Post
    I'm not sure which ones I'm meant to get, so I figured I'd ask here. Should I just get normal ones or does there exist special Cranial Calipers?
    Cranial Calipers do exist, they are simply a type of spreading caliper, mainly used nowadays for measuring deformities of the skull. I bought mine second-hand off ebay as I said. However, they are not always available on ebay and without a medical licence of some sort you might have a problem buying a pair through the official distributors.

    In that case, a pair of these would do just as well for most measurements.

    You won't be able to use these to find "head height". For that you can use a carpenters square (which you might borrow off a relative who does diy) or else you could get by with ingenuity and the inside of a door frame....




    Make sure you get the 12" model as the 8" would not be big enough.

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    These would be good for taking measurements of the face but useless for the skull because the prongs are too short and being straight might prevent access to certain recessed points.

    As has already been pointed out because soft-part morphology and other things, measurements alone, are not enough by which to classify someone. However, if taken accurately they can be useful when used in combination with photographs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elysium View Post
    How does that work? I find it strange that interpretations of one's sub-race is more accurate than actual measurements. Perhaps measurements are not always correct and one could have Med. measurements while being of another sub-race?

    Either way, I don't want my photo on the internet - yet.
    You could upload it and ask the mods to remove it after you get a few classifications, or you could send it by PM to one of the folks here who are good at classifying. :

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