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    Six Italian Mafia Members Killed in Duisburg, Germany

    Six Italians Killed in Duisburg

    August 15, 2007

    Police on Wednesday discovered the scene of a mass slaying near the main train station in the city of Duisburg. The media is calling it one of the biggest mass murders in years.

    Police in the western German city of Duisburg discovered the bodies of five men who had been shot in the head near the city's central train station in the early hours of Wednesday morning. A sixth, gravely injured man died in an ambulance taking him to the hospital. The crime is being reported as one of the biggest murders in Germany in years.

    Police responded to an emergency call at 2:30 a.m. after a pedestrian who heard what she thought to be shots or fighting flagged down a police car.

    Police then discovered the bodies in two cars parked outside an Italian restaurant. They also found numerous gun cartridges at the scene of the crime.

    Officials have not released any of the names of the victims of the shooting -- a rare crime in Germany, which has strict gun control laws. Police also have no clues yet about the motive for the killing or any suspects. "There had to have been more than one perpetrator," Duisburg police spokesman Reinhard Pape said. "There were a lot of shots." Officials did reveal that the Italian men were between the ages of 16 and 39.

    Rain on Wednesday morning hampered investigators' search for clues in the slayings. Police have asked possible witnesses to come forward with any information they might have. They are also hoping that a CCTV camera on a building near the site of the slayings might have captured images of the crime.

    Residents of Duisburg expressed disbelief that the crime could happen in their city. "I walked by here around midnight and everything was still quiet," one young woman said. "We've never had anything like this happen here."



    Source: http://www.spiegel.de/international/...500016,00.html

    I just saw on german TV that the Italian Police now announced that the dead italians were probably from the calabrese mafia.

    Quite funny - a week ago i was exactly at this place where they got shot with my girlfriend and ate some Bratwurst.


    German Source:http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/justi...500027,00.html

    English Source: http://www.spiegel.de/international/...500016,00.html




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    That's the kind of italians who emigrate most.........Calabrese/Sicilians. I can understand as Germans see them. As turkish people (indeed they act as middle eastern immigrants......what a shame )

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    Quite funny - a week ago i was exactly at this place where they got shot with my girlfriend and ate some Bratwurst.
    Remember when that car hit the terminal building at Glasgow Airport. It hit the building at exactly that spot where I usually had my cigarettes when I was still flying from Glasgow. So, had it been a different day, I could have found my cigarette being lit in a somewhat ... different fashion.

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    Yes, when I read the first bits I immediately thought of the mafia. Sounds like a "regolazione dei conti" (sort of balacing off "accounts", though such a translation doesn't capture the term) between mafia people themselves. Contrary to what might be thought, the mafia mainly murders other mafia people from other mafia families.

    I do not like a certain romanticisation of the mafia, particularly through such films as The Godfather (though an awesome film that is).

    The mafia will never be hit hard, unless the hitting is and of itself hard.

    It was mostly Fascist Italy that made of the Italian mafia an extra-Italian phenomenon. The mafia literally had to flee Italy. Fascism would not tolerate an illicit state within the state, with its own laws and enforcement basically. To this day, fascism is credited to have nearly totally eliminated the mafia in Sicily. The Anglo-American liberatori are also blamed for having returned the mafia to Sicily and Southern Italy with them during their invasion of Sicily, something quite true. Collaborations in fact did take place.

    Mussolini had appointed Cesare Mori to deal with the mafia in Sicily, a man that came to be known as Il Prefetar to di Ferro (The Iron Prefect) for his no quarters fight against the mafia. He was not even a fascist himself, and even had problems with the fascists before their advent to power. However, he was the man for the jog and Mussolini practically gave him carte blance as long as the job is done. It was a war indeed, one particular town was even besieged to capture known mafiosi. In post-war democratic Italy, renowned anti-mafia magistrate Falcone had also attested to the merits of this man which in our liberal democratic society would, in theory, rightly be accused of numerous human rights violations. Falcone was himself murdered by the mafia in the 1990s through the bombing of a bridge he was passing from with his car.

    The Italian mafia phenomenon is interesting, particularly its coming into being. The mafia has had certain causes that made it peculiar to Sicily and Southern Italy, causes that didn't exist in other parts of Italy (or even Malta where the same causes never existed). In my free time, I'll look into the matter.

    ADDENDA: Something said by Mussolini on the Sicilian mafia:

    "The Mafia is not a union of persons with criminality as its goal. Rather it is a mental illness, together with other good qualities and defects of the Sicilian people, a phenomenon also of sicilianism, an anti-legal degeneration of a rebellion against the norm of law." (B. Mussolini, 1924)

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