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    Post Another Problem with the Nordish Concept

    Firstly, Nordid is a better word than Nordish.

    The problem seems to be around the Nordic central idea. For example, a Nordic/Alpine mix is acceptable as Sub-Nordic or Keltic Nordic. A Nordic/Med mix is acceptable as a Paleo or North Atlantid. Even a Nordic/Dinaric mix is ok as a Noric.

    However, there is nothing on these:

    Borreby/Alpine
    Brunn/Alpine
    Borreby/Med
    Brunn/Med

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    Quote Originally Posted by cosmocreator
    Borreby/Alpine
    Brunn/Alpine
    Borreby/Med
    Brunn/Med

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    Less distinct sub racial types?



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    Post Re: Another Problem with the Nordish Concept

    Quote Originally Posted by cosmocreator
    Firstly, Nordid is a better word than Nordish.

    The problem seems to be around the Nordic central idea. For example, a Nordic/Alpine mix is acceptable as Sub-Nordic or Keltic Nordic. A Nordic/Med mix is acceptable as a Paleo or North Atlantid. Even a Nordic/Dinaric mix is ok as a Noric.

    However, there is nothing on these:

    Borreby/Alpine
    Brunn/Alpine
    Borreby/Med
    Brunn/Med

    Comments?

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    Post Re: Another Problem with the Nordish Concept

    Borreby/Alpine is the "Walloon Type" of Coon and others, found in Walloon-speaking Belgium, western Rhineland-Palatinate and sporadically in small sections of northern France and southern Netherlands. It also often contains Keltic Nordic and/or Meditteranean (Ibero-Insular or Berid?) admixture. The others you mentioned might occur in individuals, but probably not as populations. There are Atlanto-Meditteranean/Borreby/Hallstatt crosses in Denmark and Bruenn mixed with Atlanto_meditteranean and Keltic in Ireland

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    Post Re: Another Problem with the Nordish Concept

    Borrebys and Bruenns are almost all mixed with Nordids anyway, so I think all those proposed UP mixes are Nordish by default provided the unreduced element predominates.

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    Post Re: Another Problem with the Nordish Concept

    Quote Originally Posted by cosmocreator
    Firstly, Nordid is a better word than Nordish.

    The problem seems to be around the Nordic central idea. For example, a Nordic/Alpine mix is acceptable as Sub-Nordic or Keltic Nordic. A Nordic/Med mix is acceptable as a Paleo or North Atlantid. Even a Nordic/Dinaric mix is ok as a Noric.

    However, there is nothing on these:

    Borreby/Alpine
    Brunn/Alpine
    Borreby/Med
    Brunn/Med

    Comments?
    I think that UP-nonNordic mixes are not available mostly because Coon invented the UP type... and the other mixed types were fleshed out previously and perhaps are more abundant in a population to warrant a description. However, we do recognize that UP-nonNordic mixes exist and therefore are in the same way peripheral Nordish as Nordic-nonNordish mix is. Nordic has always been the cornerstone, so we can't expect this to disappear.

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    Post Re: Another Problem with the Nordish Concept

    Alpinids are a UP type, only smaller and less rugged.
    They are a smaller version of the Borreby type, but with almost equal cranial proportions.

    A mix between a Borreby and Alpine would probably produce a larger-boned Alpinid-like type. The pigmentation of the Alpinids has little to do with anything, yes, they are darker.

    Germany and other central European countries are predominantly Alpinid. Some of these Alpinids are culturally and historically 'Nordish' others are 'Central-European', 'Southern European ( Italy and south Balkans ) and the asiatic Alpinids are also present.

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    Post Re: Another Problem with the Nordish Concept

    Quote Originally Posted by AWAR
    Germany and other central European countries are predominantly Alpinid.
    Where do you get this information about Germany? This is only true for the Southeast, not the whole of Germany. Predominantly Germany is UP and Nordic.

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    Post Re: Another Problem with the Nordish Concept

    Quote Originally Posted by AWAR
    A mix between a Borreby and Alpine would probably produce a larger-boned Alpinid-like type. The pigmentation of the Alpinids has little to do with anything, yes, they are darker.

    According to the majority who know anything on the subject, I'm an Alpine/Borreby mix. But according to Njord, the majority is never right.

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    Post Re: Another Problem with the Nordish Concept

    I think Cosmo's chin shows some Brunnish quality and the forehead is Borreby-ish.

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