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    Wink Our Existence Is Paradoxical or Non-Paradoxical?

    Existence is demonstrably paradoxical because all attempted explanations of its origins, authenticity, and validity are paradoxical.Howerver certain indiduals claims Exitence is a demonstrably paradoxical because of our origin, authencity, and also validity are paradoxical.......!

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    Re: Our existance is paradoxical or non paradoxical?

    There is nothing paradoxical about our existence, only in the way we percieve it (we percieve quantum fields as people or things). Science is working on the problem of its origins.

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    Re: Our existance is paradoxical or non paradoxical?

    Quote Originally Posted by Elenor View Post
    Existence is demonstrably paradoxical because all attempted explanations of its origins, authenticity, and validity are paradoxical.Howerver certain indiduals claims Exitence is a demonstrably paradoxical because of our origin, authencity, and also validity are paradoxical.......!
    Quote Originally Posted by Aupmanyav View Post
    There is nothing paradoxical about our existence, only in the way we percieve it (we percieve quantum fields as people or things). Science is working on the problem of its origins.
    There is a case for saying that human existence is absurd; this could throw up some paradoxes as regards 'authenticity' and 'valdity'.

    If life is ultimately meaningless in the grand scheme of things [i.e., we are merely miniscule life forms briefly existing on a tiny planet in a solar system within a galaxy within a Universe which consists of billions of other galaxies, as far as we know], then how is it we place so much store on the supposed validity, 'authenticity' and indeed, 'origin' of our existence?

    Isn't this paradoxical in itself, as well as being absurd and ridiculous?
    Why are there beings at all, & why not rather nothing?
    [Leibniz/Heidegger]

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    Re: Our existance is paradoxical or non paradoxical?

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    Isn't this paradoxical in itself, as well as being absurd and ridiculous?
    Perhaps not, if we involve ourselves in making the best of our situation. There is so much fun around. Only that we should keep to limits of nature and our society.

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    Re: Our existance is paradoxical or non paradoxical?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aupmanyav View Post
    Perhaps not, if we involve ourselves in making the best of our situation. There is so much fun around. Only that we should keep to limits of nature and our society.
    Isn't most 'fun' based on the notion of a paradox?

    All humour revolves around the paradoxical at some level.

    Humans find things funny because ultimately life is absurd for the reasons given earlier.

    Why do we always want to go beyond limitations?

    That is very human too.

    Is it because those limitations too are absurd and ridiculous?

    A wise man can only laugh at the paradoxes of life.
    Why are there beings at all, & why not rather nothing?
    [Leibniz/Heidegger]

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    Re: Our existance is paradoxical or non paradoxical?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moody View Post
    A wise man can only laugh at the paradoxes of life.
    Go ahead, do it, it is a nice idea.

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    Wink Our existence is paradoxical or non paradoxical?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moody View Post
    There is a case for saying that human existence is absurd; this could throw up some paradoxes as regards 'authenticity' and 'valdity'.

    If life is ultimately meaningless in the grand scheme of things [i.e., we are merely miniscule life forms briefly existing on a tiny planet in a solar system within a galaxy within a Universe which consists of billions of other galaxies, as far as we know], then how is it we place so much store on the supposed validity, 'authenticity' and indeed, 'origin' of our existence?

    Isn't this paradoxical in itself, as well as being absurd and ridiculous?


    Certain groups of individuals believe ''Exitence Exist'' while other individuals does not think or even believe ''Exitence '' does exit and for me and other individuals like me ''Existence can get really poppis''( poppis = hip) at times. If I say Existence is a demostrate paradoxical, it simply means it does not have any sort of rational meaning. Do you think our ''Existence is ''self eveident''? Can anyone say ''Exitence is padadoxical'' suppose we apply on demostrably-non paradoxical conditions? However Newton's theory of Mechanics applies non paradoxial arugement,but he could have his own speculation and theory.

    Thank you for your debate ( Elenor)

    Quote Originally Posted by Aupmanyav View Post
    There is nothing paradoxical about our existence, only in the way we percieve it (we percieve quantum fields as people or things). Science is working on the problem of its origins.
    hmmm I could more or less agree with you ''Aupmanyav'' but I like to hear more about what you think of our exitance
    Last edited by Moody; Wednesday, March 28th, 2007 at 02:29 PM. Reason: merged consecutive posts

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    Re: Our existance is paradoxical or non paradoxical?

    Thanks for the invitation, Elenor. It is quite simple. I do not believe in any supernatural (including God, soul, karma, reincarnation, or nirvana; words in my culture). I try to go strictly by what science knows today. If we bring down atomic particles to something like quantum fields (science now says that there are no solid balls called atomic particles), then all things are made up of that. The observed variety is really an illusion. So I believe that there is likely to be a universal substrate (called 'Brahman' in my culture) which also creates the illusion of time and space. The properties we designate to soul belong to mind and brain, and are chemical and electrical processes. After death, these quantum fields rearrange themselves (they do it all the time, even when we live), mix with millions of other fields, and create new things. So no question of an account sheet of our actions. Our actions do have social importance, and in order that the society (meaning all of us) is benefited, we need to follow socially approved actions, that is 'dharma', our duty to family and society. Understanding this situation is really enlightenment, when you loose the fear of death. Nothing really is destroyed, dies, it only changes its form. This is moksha, deliverance, nirvana. So while we exist in our present form, have fun, let others also have fun. I will refine my theory if science comes up with new things during my life, if not, somebody else would do that in future. That is in short my philosophy of life.

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    Re: Our existance is paradoxical or non paradoxical?

    Can anyone make a debate the exitence of Z be proven or disproven?

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    Question Re: Our existance is paradoxical or non paradoxical?

    Everything is not paradox. The realm of paradox is one logical realm; not the only one.

    What do you mean when you say that existence is paradox? What existence, or what features of existence, are you referring to?

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