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  • Adolf Hitler (Germany)

    83 66.94%
  • Benito Mussolini (Italia)

    23 18.55%
  • Francisco Franco (Spain)

    10 8.06%
  • António Salazar (Portugal)

    8 6.45%
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    Post Favorite Fascist Leader...

    my favorites are Salazar (the portuguese one) and Mussolini... i don't like Franco very much.... killing people of his own country in that enormous number sounds kind of outrageous for me!
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    Viva Franco!

    His opponents were doing as much killing, and if the Reds had succeeded they may well have taken Spain into WWII leading to even greater loss of life. Anyway, for preventing wholesale slaughter of the Spanish clergy and destruction of it's churches and faith, I voted for the Generalissimo (sp?)

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    Post Re: Favorite Fascist Leader...

    Quote Originally Posted by Milesian
    Viva Franco!

    His opponents were doing as much killing, and if the Reds had succeeded they may well have taken Spain into WWII leading to even greater loss of life. Anyway, for preventing wholesale slaughter of the Spanish clergy and destruction of it's churches and faith, I voted for the Generalissimo (sp?)
    lol, i'm not talking about the Spanish civil war, or even the WWII, but if i was you were pretty right... i mean, during all the time that they ruled their countries... after the civil war and the WWII, do you know that franco implied all spaniards, inside the borders of Spain, to talk ONLY Castillan??? and killed the ones who couldn't talk it... (i am not sure about this... i've read in a book written by a red guy... )

    but it is your opinion, we should respect that!
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    Post Re: Favorite Fascist Leader...

    1. Oswald Mosley

    2. Joris van Severen

    3. Vidkun Quisling

    4. Jacques Doriot

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    Post Re: Favorite Fascist Leader...

    Quote Originally Posted by Johannes de León
    lol, i'm not talking about the Spanish civil war, or even the WWII, but if i was you were pretty right... i mean, during all the time that they ruled their countries... after the civil war and the WWII, do you know that franco implied all spaniards, inside the borders of Spain, to talk ONLY Castillan??? and killed the ones who couldn't talk it... (i am not sure about this... i've read in a book written by a red guy... )

    but it is your opinion, we should respect that!

    Yes, actually I have heard that about Castellano, and I do think that is a pity. Perhaps the reasoning behind it was that he could cement Spain even closer together by making Castillan the first language for all. That was a pity as the languages should have been allowed to co-exist within the larger framework of a united Spain.

    But I'll forgive him that

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    Post Re: Favorite Fascist Leader...

    Quote Originally Posted by Milesian
    Viva Franco!

    His opponents were doing as much killing, and if the Reds had succeeded they may well have taken Spain into WWII leading to even greater loss of life. Anyway, for preventing wholesale slaughter of the Spanish clergy and destruction of it's churches and faith, I voted for the Generalissimo (sp?)
    The Generallisimo used Maroccons to combate his own people, it doesn't matter if they were bloody wrong and bastards themselves.

    It reminds me what Céline in D'un chateau à l'autre in some hallucinant gripping pages describes about the Senegalese troops of general Leclerc who went raiding and looting, finally molesting the women of collaborators and killing them off in sheer brutality.
    Or not to mention that ugly potpourri of Uralo-Hunnish mongrels of the Red Army that caused so much vile havoc among the Germans(rape...).

    No, my friend, Franco was a s.o.b. and I hate him so much I could strangle him slowly and with great pleasure myself....

    Besides, he is Levantine....

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    Post Re: Favorite Fascist Leader...

    Quote Originally Posted by Milesian
    Yes, actually I have heard that about Castellano, and I do think that is a pity. Perhaps the reasoning behind it was that he could cement Spain even closer together by making Castillan the first language for all. That was a pity as the languages should have been allowed to co-exist within the larger framework of a united Spain.

    But I'll forgive him that
    Yeah, and Ulster should of course remain within the framework of the UK with equal rights to the Catholics and in friendly co-existence with the Protestants and British immigrés...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frans_Jozef
    Yeah, and Ulster should of course remain within the framework of the UK with equal rights to the Catholics and in friendly co-existence with the Protestants and British immigrés...
    One third of Ulster is already in the Republic of Ireland, do you wish to see these 3 counties returned to British Rule?

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    Hehe, guess whom I gave my vote...

    The term "Fascist" is of course not clear defined, and in the history of ideas National-Socialism is often excluded from "standard" fascism as something much more radical of its own with special character, while on the other side the transition from fascism to traditional-authoritarian systems (to which Franco strikes more) is fluid.

    From the others, I prefer Mussolini much more to Franco. I also don't really like Franco, and he was somehow indeed more a simple arch-reactionary. Torpidity, not dynamic impulse.

    Whom I don't like from the other "fascists" of Europe who aren't mentioned here is Austria's Dollfuß. Little fucker...

    Man ſei Held oder Heiliger. In der Mitte liegt nicht die Weisheit, ſondern die Alltäglichkeit.

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    Post Re: Favorite Fascist Leader...

    Quote Originally Posted by Milesian
    One third of Ulster is already in the Republic of Ireland, do you wish to see these 3 counties returned to British Rule?
    You didn't understand my sarcastic rebuke, Milesian, I meant that you're applying a double standard; true the regions in Spain enjoy today great autonomy, but many has given his or her life to fight for their cultural independance and rights, like the Irish have down under British occupation.
    The British conceded at least a little, under Franco's rule all possibility to achieve a similar treatment was simply out of the question.

    Besides, my friend, like that priest of the parish where my mother lived in Brindisi warned her for, sotto la bandiera di Cristo nascondono molto diabioli(the spelling is not entirely correct, but that will do)and Franco was one of them.

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