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    ORTHODOX VIEW OF INTERRACIAL MARRIAGE
    Bishop Iakovos, Prof. of Orthodox Theology, Holy Cross Greek Orthodox School of Theology. 1987.

    QUESTION: "No matter what Hollywood and the Church say, I can't believe God smiles on such (interracial) marriages."

    ANSWER: I wish to respond to the brief comment on several levels. On the level of the issue itself, the expression "God smiles on such marriages" can be understood in a number of ways. If by it, you mean that you believe that God does not encourage racially mixed marriages, the, I believe we are not in disagreement. I feel I made it very clear that the Church does not feel such marriages are desirable, for many different reasons, many of which are practical and have to do with the chance of success for such marriages. In addition, we should also add that the Church holds that races and nations were created by God. Consequently, the total intermarriage would destroy the races which God created. The Church has never advocated or encouraged racially mixed marriages.

    Nevertheless, to assume a stance that would completely prohibit such marriages, would mean that the Church was racist, in that the criterion which is used was not one of faith, or belief, or the equal dignity of all human beings as the "image and likeness of God," but solely a racial criterion. This it has never done, nor can it do and remain faithful to its teachings. If by the idea that "God does not smiles on such marriages," you are saying that God absolutely forbids these marriages, then, I believe the burden of proof is on you - since we have no New Testament teaching, nor canonical directives, nor Church practice to that effect.

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    Post Re: Orthodox View Of Interracial Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by wild_bill
    If by the idea that "God does not smiles on such marriages," you are saying that God absolutely forbids these marriages, then, I believe the burden of proof is on you - since we have no New Testament teaching, nor canonical directives, nor Church practice to that effect.
    Liars. Sad to see the Orthodox churches even being corrupted.

    The Entire NEW Testament speaks against this in numerous places. Being Orthodox and familiar with the Greek Septuagint, these folks should know better.

    The Sixth Commandment

    In Exodus 20:13 (LXX), we find the sixth commandment1, a commandment we find repeated in the New Testament in Romans 13:9 and elsewhere (cf. Matthew 5:27, Luke 18:20, Mark 10:19, Jacob (James) 2:11, et al.). So we immediately notice that this commandment is explicitly stated in both the Old and New Testaments. The reason is that Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever (Heb. 13:8). With God, there is no variance or shadow of turning (Jacob 1:17). Obviously, this sixth commandment is very important. In most translations of the Bible, Exodus 20:13 and Romans 13:9 are translated: "Thou shalt not commit adultery." In the literal translation of the Anointed Standard Translation of the New Testament and in the true translation of the Ten Commandments in The Truth Unveiled, these passages are translated as: "You will not mongrelize."

    In many people's minds, there is a very great difference between these two translations, though, as we shall see later, this is due primarily to the purposeful degeneration of the etymology of the word adultery. At issue in the Greek Septuagint and in the Greek New Testament are two Greek words: ou moicheuseis.

    In the Latin Vulgate, Exodus 20:13 was translated as non moechaberis and Romans 13:9 as non adulterabis. The Latin word moechaberis is an inflected form of moechari, a transliteration of the Greek moicheuo, and is of little etymological importance since what it means is merely dependent upon what the Greek word means, which we will explore. However, what is important is adulterabis, an inflected form of the word adultero, since this is the Latin word most often used in the Vulgate and elsewhere to translate the Greek word moicheuo.

    The Greek word ou and the Latin word non are simply negative particles, translated not. Thus, the words that we need to define in order to determine the correct translation of Exodus 20:13 and Romans 13:9 are the Greek word moicheuo and the Latin word adultero.

    First, in order to define the word moicheuo, let us turn to a commonly used and commonly available dictionary, the Theological Dictionary of the New Testament, edited by Gerhard Kittel and translated into English by Geoffrey W. Bromiley. Now let us note that Kittel was a well-renowned German Greek scholar and is held in high-esteem by the scholarly community.

    Under the entry word moicheuo, the following definition is given: "of the intermingling of animals and men or of different races."2 This, of course, is the classical definition of mongrelization. So the Greek of the New Testament and the Greek Septuagint confirm that the translation You will not mongrelize is correct.

    So now that we have defined the Greek, what about the Latin Vulgate? Now we must define the Latin word adultero, and we shall do so using the finest Latin dictionary currently available and the standard among Latin scholars, the Oxford Latin Dictionary: "To mix (a substance or kind) with another, adulterate: to impair the purity or strength of, to give a variety of appearances to, change . . . to corrupt, debase." Once again, when this is applied to people, we have mongrelization. So we find age-old agreement between the Latin and the Greek.

    Therefore, using two of the most respected reference works available regarding Biblical Greek and the Latin language, and simply looking the words up, we find that these verses in the Bible are in fact an explicit prohibition against race-mixing.

    To any intellectually honest person, the above definitions should be more than enough to convince him that the Bible clearly and explicitly prohibits race-mixing. This is exactly why the coalition of evil is so against a true and literal translation of the Word of God. In fact, it may be stated that their theology is little more than a justification system for the breaking of this divine law of God. If the translation You will not mongrelize is wrong, then the two reference works cited above, certainly two of the most prestigious works of their type available, are also wrong. Any legitimate Greek or Latin scholars would agree with these definitions; any one who would disagree with these definitions have in fact turned their backs on legitimate scholarship and should stop being hypocritical and admit that they do not believe the Bible instead of trying to change what it and what legitimate scholars say.

    Now, many people will simply go and find a dictionary that defines the above words as adultery, and then ignorantly presume that adultery is defined as marital infidelity and simply forget about the two definitions cited above.

    To show the stupidity and intellectual dishonesty of these people, I have previously written a work entitled Hidden Truth, now published under the title The Truth Unveiled, which gave many more proofs of the definitions of the Greek and Latin family of words commonly translated adultery, and examined in detail every Biblical passage, both Old and New Testaments, where these words occurred. That is not the purpose of this present work. The reader is encouraged to also read the chapter regarding this family of words in The Truth Unveiled for a complete Biblical analysis of this family of words. The objective herein is to examine in detail the etymology of both the Greek and Latin words commonly translated adultery, the ways these words were used in other Greek and Latin literature and in key passages in the Bible, and to explore how the web of deception regarding these words has been woven through the degeneration of language. The information presented hereafter is indisputable and not a subject of debate: one will either be intellectually honest and believe it or one will suffer the fate of all liars and those who help make a lie.

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    Orthodox View Of Interracial Marriage

    ORTHODOX VIEW OF INTERRACIAL MARRIAGE
    Bishop Iakovos, Prof. of Orthodox Theology, Holy Cross Greek Orthodox School of Theology. 1987.

    QUESTION: "No matter what Hollywood and the Church say, I can't believe God smiles on such (interracial) marriages."

    ANSWER: I wish to respond to the brief comment on several levels. On the level of the issue itself, the expression "God smiles on such marriages" can be understood in a number of ways. If by it, you mean that you believe that God does not encourage racially mixed marriages, the, I believe we are not in disagreement. I feel I made it very clear that the Church does not feel such marriages are desirable, for many different reasons, many of which are practical and have to do with the chance of success for such marriages. In addition, we should also add that the Church holds that races and nations were created by God. Consequently, the total intermarriage would destroy the races which God created. The Church has never advocated or encouraged racially mixed marriages.

    Nevertheless, to assume a stance that would completely prohibit such marriages, would mean that the Church was racist, in that the criterion which is used was not one of faith, or belief, or the equal dignity of all human beings as the "image and likeness of God," but solely a racial criterion. This it has never done, nor can it do and remain faithful to its teachings. If by the idea that "God does not smiles on such marriages," you are saying that God absolutely forbids these marriages, then, I believe the burden of proof is on you - since we have no New Testament teaching, nor canonical directives, nor Church practice to that effect.
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