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    [split] Assorted thoughts on religion

    Quote Originally Posted by Glynd Eastŵd View Post
    But at the same time, Christianity has helped to unify the continent and protect it against foreign oppressors throughout history (e.g Turkish or Moorish invaders).
    You mean "unified" like in the division between the Roman Church and Orthodoxy that led to the Crusaders fighting almost as much against the Byzantinians as against the Arabs? Like in the 30 years war that killed almost half of central Europe's population? Unified like Irish Protestants are with Irish Catholics, Catholic Croats with Orthodox Serbs, etc.? Like Christian Englishmen were with Christian Germans in two World Wars? Strangely, worshipping the same "God" never kept Europeans from slaughtering each other by the millions.

    In my opinion the first and (so far) only time that Europe was relatively unified politically, culturally and spiritually was under the rule of the (Pagan) Roman Empire that allowed all Gods in its Pantheon.

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    Re: AW: Re: Christianity not for Germanics?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pervitinist View Post
    In my opinion the first and (so far) only time that Europe was relatively unified politically, culturally and spiritually was under the rule of the (Pagan) Roman Empire that allowed all Gods in its Pantheon.
    A shame Rome and its empire had to collapse.

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    Re: Christianity not for Germanics?

    It's Always Been About Control

    Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich.
    -Napoleon Bonaparte, French emperor

    All religions have been made by men.
    -Napoleon Bonaparte, French emperor

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    Re: Christianity not for Germanics?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crownshelm View Post
    God told His people (the Jews) that He chose them so that they may bless all of His creation.
    Are the Jews the most beautiful of people, are they the most powerful of people? I would say no. However, a constant theme in the Bible is that God chooses the people that you would least suspect to bring out His will.
    You REALLY believe that?

    Jews bless aryans and aryan religion.
    Jews destroyed aryan religion with Jesusism.
    Jews seek to weaken and destroy aryan nations through non aryan immigration, miscegination, using aryans to kill their enemies (middle east) and abetting inter aryan racial strife (WWI, WII).

    To believe that Jews are choosen and are a blessing to aryan race/religion is ludricous.

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    AW: Christianity not for Germanics?

    I'm really fed up with these futile debates with self-proclaimed Christian believers desperately trying to deny the obvious.

    Denying that Christianity is essentially Jewish and a further development out of Judaism is like claiming that a pork sausage has "nothing to do with pigs" because it doesn't have a curly tail.

    It's ridiculous and you should stop it.

    Embracing the Christian faith logically excludes anti-semitism, skepticism about the existence of a "transcendent" personal creator of the world, belief in the fundamental inequality of human races and individuals, elitist ethics, a cyclical cosmology etc. ... That's why I'm not a Christian.

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    Re: "Christianity" is "spiritual poison" designed to destroy Whites!

    Quote Originally Posted by Airmanareiks View Post
    Paul was a rabid racist Jew who persecuted traitors. He realized that Jesusism (world communism) would destroy the Jewish race, so the Jews put him to death. Paul, then thought "I realize how genocidial this is for Jews. Hmmm. This would be great for the Romans!!!!! This is how we destroy the Roman empire and rule the world. Lets convert the world to Jesusism and make the entire world into our slaves (the covenant). This worked in destroying the roman empire, taking over europe. But Jesusism evaporated with protestantism, securlarism. So the Jews needed a new tool in a scientific age. Viola, Dialectical materialism. Communism.

    Jesusism, Communism, Capitalism are tools to destroy goy races so Jews can rule the world. Destroy racism, basterize the world, have a stupid mongrel race to work for Jews.

    Jesus fit in well with this Jewish genocidial strategy.
    Think not of this world.
    It is better to be a slave and poor then have money, and power.
    Sex is of no matter. (Sexual selection is racial selection).
    Foreign rule is as good as rule by your own race.
    etc................

    All of which is the opposite of truth and right (not natural godlaw).
    Exactly!

    "Christianity" is a "spiritual poison" by Jews
    specifically designed to destroy All Whites!

    "Germanics" are not the only Whites that
    have been "targeted for termination" via
    this "spiritual poison" promoting our racial
    miscegenation and our total enslavement.

    Cosmotheism is a Aryan religion that is all
    based upon Natural Godlaw, that's totally
    immanent within the Cosmos, as a unified
    Whole.

    Cosmotheism is an "antedote" to this Jewish
    "spiritual poison" of "Judeo-Christianity" that
    will either make us Whites all racially extinct
    and if we do not take this real Cosmotheist
    "spiritual" cure in time!

    Discover these Whole Cosmotheist Truths
    of Reality and for your own selves, here:

    http://www.cosmotheism.net

    Read it and then compare it to your own inner
    "soul" or own "self" as with the Cosmos and as
    a unified Whole.

    If it resonates, then you are a true "Germanic",
    or you are a true "Aryan", or you are a true or
    are a "White Man", if not, then you no longer
    are any true "White Man" nor any true "Aryan"
    nor any true "Germanic" and neither in actual
    fact and nor in spirit.

    So be it.

    You can choose to be a dying out "slave" to these
    Jews or not. To be true or not to be true to thine
    own true self is the eternal question as is always!

    Best regards,
    Needle

    http://www.cosmotheism.net
    Last edited by Needle; Monday, February 26th, 2007 at 02:06 AM.
    http://www.cosmotheism.net

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    Re: "Christianity" is "spiritual poison" designed to destroy Whites!

    I have already constructed the Ur Germanic religion Needle which gives you back your godhood, if you are worthy of it. Nothing against your site, but this is a philosophy not back on actual aryan religion.

    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Gutthiuda_Hamaraz/

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    Re: "Christianity" is "spiritual poison" designed to destroy Whites!

    Quote Originally Posted by Airmanareiks View Post
    I have already constructed the Ur Germanic religion Needle which gives you back your godhood, if you are worthy of it. Nothing against your site, but this is a philosophy not back on actual aryan religion.

    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Gutthiuda_Hamaraz/

    Thanks for the link and I do appreciate that you have made an effort to
    "reconstruct" the Ur Germanic religion which gives back our godhood for
    those worthy of it. However, you are correct when you assert that the
    Cosmotheism site and religion is not back on the "actual" Aryan religion,
    as the times have "changed" quite a bit and our own real and scientific
    knowledge of the Cosmos has modified and so evolved our understanding
    of both it and ourselves as a unified Whole.

    The Cosmotheism website here:

    http://www.cosmotheism.net

    has actually been around for at least as long as has your own efforts
    at a group:

    http://www.cosmotheism.net/index2.htm

    and the private Cosmotheism or the Yahoo group actually
    has many more members and actually has more posts as
    well:

    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Church_of_Cosmotheism/

    vs.

    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Gutthiuda_Hamaraz/

    The point is that any "religion" that protects, supports, promotes,
    and advances the "White Race" is a worthy one and deserves our
    respect and any "religion" that negates, attacks, undermines, and
    denies the advancement of the "White Race" is just a completely
    "unworthy religion for any Whites" and thus it would deserve only
    our own due contempt and scorn. That is our criteria for religion.

    Best regards,
    Needle

    http://www.cosmotheism.net

    PS--Dr. Pierce had formulated his "Cosmotheism" in the late 1970's
    and his resonates with the original ancient Aryan Vedas and with a
    Modern Scientific Knowledge of ourselves and the Cosmos as being
    a Unified Whole.
    Last edited by Needle; Monday, February 26th, 2007 at 02:48 AM. Reason: Added links to support my assertions
    http://www.cosmotheism.net

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    Re: Christianity not for Germanics?

    Here is a link to a relevant article about it:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proselytism

    One's religion is a personal matter that
    has huge consequences for one's own
    worldview and also for one's own place
    within the Cosmos. One must choose it
    well, and the only way that one can do
    so is to be exposed to as many as one
    can to see what one, if any, resonates
    with one's own soul, spirit, or with one's
    own conscience.

    Like in the marketplace of ideas/ideals,
    true intellectual freedom and true moral
    courage must require and allow the free
    and the open exchange of them ALL. It
    is the "Germanic" and the "Aryan" and is
    the "White Man's" way to find out these
    Whole Truths of Reality for his or for her
    own self.

    It is the "Jewish" or "Semetic" way or is
    their mentality to "deny" and to "control"
    our access to any of these Whole Truths
    at all and to thus to control and to just
    manipulate us "willingly" to commit race-
    suicide for only their own vile benefit or
    advancement.

    Cosmotheists point the way towards all
    Whole Truths of Reality that one must
    discover for one's own self and benefit.
    You can lead any horse to water, but,
    you can't make them drink and neither
    should one throw any such pearls of
    "wisdom" before swine or non-Aryans.

    Best regards,
    Needle

    http://www.cosmotheism.net
    http://www.cosmotheism.net

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    Quote Originally Posted by Needle View Post
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    One's religion is a personal matter that
    has huge consequences for one's own
    worldview and also for one's own place
    within the Cosmos. One must choose it
    well, and the only way that one can do
    so is to be exposed to as many as one
    can to see what one, if any, resonates
    with one's own soul, spirit, or with one's
    own conscience.

    Like in the marketplace of ideas/ideals,
    true intellectual freedom and true moral
    courage must require and allow the free
    and the open exchange of them ALL. It
    is the "Germanic" and the "Aryan" and is
    the "White Man's" way to find out these
    Whole Truths of Reality for his or for her
    own self.

    It is the "Jewish" or "Semetic" way or is
    their mentality to "deny" and to "control"
    our access to any of these Whole Truths
    at all and to thus to control and to just
    manipulate us "willingly" to commit race-
    suicide for only their own vile benefit or
    advancement.
    Your posts are, at least as far as I can tell, very level-headed: you have your principles, standards, convictions and are able to elucidate them well. You are a fine spokesman for Cosmotheism. Although Cosomotheism is not for me (I find it contrived), it doesn't bash all that abrasively against the Northern Tradition. However, that you have come to Skadi to spread the good message of Cosmotheism, as something redemptive, as something absolute, as something containing salvation for a waning peoples (and this is not to offend) really does strike me as Semitic - however minor this psychology is to the dynamism of Cosmotheism...

    Cosmotheists point the way towards all
    Whole Truths of Reality that one must
    discover for one's own self and benefit.
    ...
    ...and in so far as Cosmotheism is an expected deliverer for a waning peoples, it is messianic: which is where its cross-over with Christianity gets too much for me:

    So the Jews gathered around him and said to him, "How long will you keep is in suspense?" If you are the messiah, tell us plainly." Jesus answered them, "I told you, and you do not believe. The works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness to me; but you do not believe, because you do not belong to my sheep." (John 10:24-26 RSV) "...but if I do them [the works of God], even though you do not believe me, believe the works, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me and I am in the Father." (John 10:38 RSV)

    This is my biblical 'litmus test', if you will. I ask myself: "how difficult is it (or, how easy) to plug what individual 'x' is saying to me about faith system 'a' into Judaism, Christianity, or Islam?"

    At any rate, I ultimately will reject any faith system if it is any way shape or form, constructed upon one or both of the following: Victimhood, or, resentment.

    Given that you are a good spokesperson for Cosmotheism, I have no doubt that you would disagree with much, if not all, of what I have said; so know in advance that I respect your commitment to Cosmotheism, and wish you well in your efforts.
    Last edited by Moody; Wednesday, February 28th, 2007 at 01:57 PM. Reason: removed dead link
    "...The moral man is a lower species than the immoral, a weaker species; indeed - he is a type in regard to morality, but not a type in himself; a copy...the measure of his value lies outside him. ... I assess the power of a will by how much resistance, pain, torture it endures and knows how to turn to its advantage; I do not account the evil and painful character of existence a reproach to it, but hope rather that it will one day be more evil and painful than hitherto..." (Nietzsche)

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