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    The Antichrist: A Pacifist, Ecologist and Ecumenist

    Pope Benedict XVI's Lenten retreat preacher, Cardinal Giacomo Biffi, gave a message on the Antichrist, describing him as a "pacifist, ecologist and ecumenist." This info comes from the writings of Vladimir Soloviev, a 19th century Russian poet and mystical philosopher. It appears that the Pope and, apparently, Cardinal Biffi are interested in the writings of Soloviev.

    Here is an excerpt from a recent news article:
    This year's selection when it became known created a stir since Cardinal Biffi, while he is known for orthodox faith and frank words, is most well known, at least in the secular media, for his preaching on the Antichrist. In fact, the Times of London reported in 2004 that the Cardinal described the Antichrist as "walking among us".

    The Lenten retreat did not disappoint. Cardinal Biffi picked up on his oft repeated theme of the Antichrist, basing his remarks on the works of Vladimir Soloviev, a Russian theologian who has received praise from Pope Benedict prior to his elevation to the pontificate.

    Quoting Soloviev, the Cardinal said "the Antichrist presents himself as pacifist, ecologist and ecumenist."

    "He will convoke an ecumenical council and will seek the consensus of all the Christian confessions, granting something to each one. The masses will follow him, with the exception of small groups of Catholics, Orthodox and Protestants," he said .......

    In his "Tale of the Antichrist" Solovyov foresees that a small group of Catholics, Orthodox and Protestants will resist and will say to the Antichrist: "You give us everything, except what interests us, Jesus Christ". For Cardinal Biffi, this narrative is a warning: "Today, in fact, we run the risk of having a Christianity which puts aside Jesus with his cross and resurrection."
    Source: LifeSiteNews.com

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    Re: The Antichrist: A pacifist, ecologist and ecumenist

    This is one of the best descriptions made about AntiChrist, another great book about it is 666 from Hugo Wast, a powerful book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    This is one of the best descriptions made about AntiChrist, another great book about it is 666 from Hugo Wast, a powerful book.
    Biffi's words are full of irony when you consider the following from Ian Paisley's European Institute of Protestant Studies:
    http://www.ianpaisley.org/article.asp?ArtKey=666

    http://www.ianpaisley.org/article.asp?ArtKey=pius

    http://www.ianpaisley.org/toc.asp?loc=rome

    In fact, it's downright disturbing for things to be so crystal clear and apparent for the inquiring mind of reason and yet so completely hidden for the complacent who let their deepseated need to belong to a majority do the spiritual driving.

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    Laughable....This person ( anti-christ) is with so much power and far reaching power he knows the nature of this silly theologic game, will simply destroy the building and any person who stands to feel they can profit by his death will be sorry.

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    Segestan, you're implying that some 2000 + years of history and prophecy are not to be taken seriously and should be judged as scientifically silly. Psychologically speaking, that is exactly the mentality which the prophesied AC counts upon to enable him to slowly take the reigns of political and religious power. I think it's clear that this person will be someone who will combine the latter two functions. WW2 has delivered to us the philosophy of political correctness — the first stepping stone required.
    A very recommendable book is The Great Pyramid Decoded by E. Raymond Capt (M.A., A.I.A., F.S.A., SCOT)
    It's available through Artisan Publishers
    http://www.artisanpublishers.com/adv...rds=/index.php
    There are 21 other titles by the same author, all of them highly interesting!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReinekeFuchs View Post
    Segestan, you're implying that some 2000 + years of history and prophecy are not to be taken seriously and should be judged as scientifically silly. Psychologically speaking, that is exactly the mentality which the prophesied AC counts upon to enable him to slowly take the reigns of political and religious power. I think it's clear that this person will be someone who will combine the latter two functions. WW2 has delivered to us the philosophy of political correctness — the first stepping stone required.
    A very recommendable book is The Great Pyramid Decoded by E. Raymond Capt (M.A., A.I.A., F.S.A., SCOT)
    It's available through Artisan Publishers
    http://www.artisanpublishers.com/adv...rds=/index.php
    There are 21 other titles by the same author, all of them highly interesting!
    Yes I am fully aware of prophecy. The Book of Daniel and revelation .. etc.

    But I'm telling you... if this man is all he is suppose to be and given the nature of where power originates , he is not going to follow the expected plans or paths that Christians, Jews or Muslims expect. Not to offend but you are clearly a person of faith in forces you cannot see, but you are wrong.
    Those persons who discover this man have a system of truth they put him through, no one has ever completed the course... he does. Those who put him through that course know not the true nature of the universe.. they will Not be able to escape.. no hidding be hind the vail for them. This person has REAL power and ALL souls are his allies!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Segestan View Post
    ... But I'm telling you... if this man is all he is suppose to be and given the nature of where power originates , he is not going to follow the expected plans or paths that Christians, Jews or Muslims expect...
    I find this phrase of yours quite intriguing. I wonder if you could clarify for me the statement of "the nature of where power originates?"
    Quote Originally Posted by Segestan View Post
    Not to offend but you are clearly a person of faith in forces you cannot see, but you are wrong.
    That's the very meaning of faith. Isn't it?
    Quote Originally Posted by Segestan View Post
    Those persons who discover this man have a system of truth they put him through, no one has ever completed the course... he does. Those who put him through that course know not the true nature of the universe.. they will Not be able to escape.. no hidding be hind the vail for them. This person has REAL power and ALL souls are his allies!
    One could argue that the original prophet, the Creator, knows quite well the nature of the universe. Scripture also says that the AC's time is limited. I believe it is 6.5 to 7 years (off the top of my head) although there are more precise time frames published within this range. He's also described as concluding a 7 year non-agression treaty with Israel which he'll break after 3 - 4 years. this will be the impetus to WW3 and a possible nuclear holocaust because at this point the biblically prophesied King of the North (Europe and North America plus Australia) will do battle with the King of the South (Islam).

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    Power in human hands is given by random lot. The universe is for the mortal .. a dynamic journey through time and space. The human drama is a book of life for all those souls who enter the time bound journey. The AC is apart ( it would seem) of that Books tale. If AC comes as expected , he will be All-powerful, beyond anything ever seen more power than Christ and his miracle works of small magnitude. AC is with knowledge that even Christ, nor any prophet has ever known.
    Yes ... religion is all about faith and you do a fine job of representation. But religion in the final analysis is apart of the Drama making of mortal living not the reason for our journey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Segestan View Post
    Power in human hands is given by random lot. The universe is for the mortal .. a dynamic journey through time and space. The human drama is a book of life for all those souls who enter the time bound journey. The AC is apart ( it would seem) of that Books tale. If AC comes as expected , he will be All-powerful, beyond anything ever seen more power than Christ and his miracle works of small magnitude. AC is with knowledge that even Christ, nor any prophet has ever known.
    Yes ... religion is all about faith and you do a fine job of representation. But religion in the final analysis is apart of the Drama making of mortal living not the reason for our journey.
    Based on what, do you make this claim? As far as I am aware, only the Bible, and other, similar, religious texts mention the Anti-Christ. As such, we must assume (if we believe in a potential Anti-Christ at all) that it should follow the laws set forth in such literature.

    If the Bible is the only source to make the Anti-Christ claim, and the Bible also says that the Anti-Christ will be weaker than God (as Satan is weaker than God) then from where can you possibly derive a different perspective, and still think that it is the Anti-Christ from the Bible?

    The term "Anti-Christ" has been greatly over-used in the last 2000 years. Sure, I believe in Biblical prophecy, but I also realize that so much of Revelation was symbolic that pretty much, no one can really know anything, and I'll leave it at that for now, at least until anything about the subject is knowable, and that may not happen within our lifetime, or 100 lifetimes. We'll see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Segestan View Post
    Power in human hands is given by random lot. The universe is for the mortal .. a dynamic journey through time and space. The human drama is a book of life for all those souls who enter the time bound journey. The AC is apart ( it would seem) of that Books tale. If AC comes as expected , he will be All-powerful, beyond anything ever seen more power than Christ and his miracle works of small magnitude. AC is with knowledge that even Christ, nor any prophet has ever known.
    You've obviously stated that the reason for your "dynamic journey through time and space" is mortal living. You admire the power of the finite type - i.e. the mortal. Therefore, unfortunately, that's your chosen lot and destiny.
    Quote Originally Posted by Segestan View Post
    Yes ... religion is all about faith and you do a fine job of representation. But religion in the final analysis is apart of the Drama making of mortal living not the reason for our journey.
    I believe that the reason for our finite existence is to develop and learn. So that we may achieve a level worthy of permitting infinite harmonious existence. In summary, that's the message and purpose of Scripture, isn't it?

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