Extraterrestrial origins

[vimaranes81]

I'm also into those theories of extra-terrestrial origins and it all started out by reading Erich von Däniken. If interested we can swap points of view

[kaleun]

I have made comments on these things before, but no-one took me up on them.
So...

Current thinking suggests that man originated in Africa. This would account for the African races, but not, in my view, for the Caucasian. The problem is associated with the lack of skeletal evidence.

Why is it lacking? If the white races were around at the same time or earlier - then where are the traces of their civilisations?

The answer is most likely to be time and catastrophe. there is ample evidence of great catastrophes which have changed the world (the extinction of the dinosaurs springs to mind) and legends of lost civilisations (Atlantis, Lemuria, Mu etc) which suggest that evidence has been destroyed by catastrophes, including the Biblical Flood. recent discoveries of buildings off the coasts of the continents indicate there is much lost to us and vanished worlds of which we know little.

Rock survives, stone buildings survive, but artefacts and metals rot away in the seas; we have only to look at the remains of boats and sunken tanks and guns and aircraft from the last war to see how everything is eaten away or covered over. Then we realise how there can be nothing left of any ancient civilisation that rose and fell before recorded history apart from its legends and traces of its language.

I cite Atlantis to point out that legends such as this, which surely have some basis in fact, represent race memories of past civilisations. The Egyptians had records of civilisations of which we know nothing.

This is to set the scene.

I suggest that there are no skeletal records of races other than the African because the lands where these would have been found have all disapperared.

Just think for a minute - some great catastrophe, such as an asteroid strike - knocks out all our power stations, destroying all our communications and all devices run by electricity, leaving us all to fend for ourselves. How many of us would know what to do? No electrics, no gas, no phones, no banks, no supermarkets - we whi rely so much on our machines and our mechanised computerised world - we would be at a disadvantage compared with all thse who have none of these things. They would survive better than we. And if we were all washed away? The primitives would retain memories of other, more powerful, races who were like gods and wielded the powers of gods ...

I await your reactions; but I have more to say on this subject, if you are willing to read; in particular I wish to continue the idea of extra-terrestrial seeding of Earth, whether deliberate or by accident.

[GreenHeart]

I believe this idea of Atlantis, and it interests and intrigues me to no end. I have read what Plato had to say but is there anyone else who can tell me more about our lost civilizations?

[Kaotiksoul6sic6]

They would survive better than we. And if we were all washed away? The primitives would retain memories of other, more powerful, races who were like gods and wielded the powers of gods ...

that is the best way to look at it ive ever heard ive never heard anyone put it like that if atlantis was real that is probably the way it was that is cool i know look at the story of atlantis in a different way

P.S should this be in the science forum?

[kaleun]

Originally posted by Kaotiksoul6sic6




P.S should this be in the science forum?

Maybe - but a lot of what I suggest is theory and hypothesis and has not yet been proved.

Anyway, let me continue ...

An extra-terrestrial vehicle lands on earth. Its occupants make contact with the inhabitants. These extra-terrestrials will presumably be much much more advanced, bigger, better fed etc.:
"There were giants in those days"
and would be looked upon as Gods - or maybe the Captain was God and his crew the "Sons of God", or his attendant "angels" (especially if they had backpacks enabling them to fly about).
With me so far?

Seeing the poor Earth-born material the Captain decides to do a bit of genetic engineering...
maybe makes a mess of it? ("monsters"), but then gets it right and creates humanoids with the ability to think.

At his point I was going to add some Bible quotations, but I'll do it later. You get the drift - creation - Adam and Eve - etc.

Why did the extra-terrestrials come? There are two scenarios:
a) deliberate looking for new planet
b) accidental (crashing) on planet,
maybe as a result of a war between different "Gods".
and you can probably see where this is leading.

(Tea is ready; I shall post more later)

[Kaotiksoul6sic6]

that is wierd but it may have some truth to it alot of the people i hang out with think like that that the whites were created or started by aliens

[Stríbog]

I have always been interested in ancient and vanished civilizations. I have always looked for a way to combine my racialism with my interest in the paranormal and unexplained. I am glad that so many here are willing to consider these unorthodox theories. As far as extraterrestrial contact with humans, I believe the stronget evidence exists in ancient Egypt and ancient Peru. In Peru, the Nazca lines are perfectly straight lines along large flat desert expanses, lines that resemble an airfield and are so large that they are only visible from the air. In addition, there are huge carvings on the nearby rock outcroppings that resemble astronauts. In Egypt, the perfect symmetry and precision of the pyramids suggests a workmanship far more advanced than what should be expected from that age. The pyramids also are oriented with an astronomical/astrological significance, as is the Sphinx. To some, this has implied extraterrestrial contact. I have to cut this short now, but I will try and post more on this subject soon.

[kaleun]

Good. I think we have the basis now for a good discussion. I will post more when I get the time.

[vimaranes81]

First of all, I'd like to thank you all who ansewered my thread! I must say that I wasn't expecting much input and am really glad to find people thinking in simmilar ways to mine .
Secondly, all those tales about how the Nephilim, finding earthly women beautiful, had intercourse with them gaving birth to a new breed, making their leader angry, are a very important source of information. Furthemore, the Baalbeck ruins are an impostant link to tose matters and I think that the Gilgamesh (or Utanapishtin) story reveals also contacts with outter peoples.
Some Sumerians believed that a fish-man god was the introducer of civilisation, wich makes me instantly think about some kind of under sea craft that brought the Gods! As von List said, the pouplar forms of wisdom retain the truth in allegories, fairytales and other stories, while only the initiated know fully the truth, which applies here for the coming of the gods was registred as a fable and explained in terms easily understandable by the common people.
Though not being a follower of Blavatsky, I think she had a point when talking about different levels of races, which were destroyed by many probable causes. The bramanic traditions in the Sanskrit literature talk clearly of weapons with such a devastating power with effects simmilar to our nuclear weapons, and also about flying vehicle (Garudas ans Vimanas) that degladiated in the sky!
Also read in a book called "meditations of a Guru" that stated early Egypt to have been located in America, for both Egypts are the land of the eagle! One of the most known knowledges of the Egyptians was connected with Atlantis, that the ruins in Bimini and surroundings seem to constitute a remnant. The Egyptian dead were always buried on the west bank of the Nile because this way their souls were on the side of their ancient land.
One must not forget to mention Tiahuanaco, Easter island, the Pacific ruins, the Japanese shore ruins or Agarthy/Shambalah but time is little...

[kaleun]

Originally posted by vimaranes81

those tales about how the Nephilim, finding earthly women beautiful, had intercourse with them giving birth to a new breed, making their leader angry, are a very important source of information.

NB - I think this must have followed the original seeding uhless we assume that the original (Earth-born) inhabitants of Earth were comely to look at (and if they were African I think this might not exactly apply ...)

Some Sumerians believed that a fish-man god was the introducer of civilisation, wich makes me instantly think about some kind of under sea craft that brought the Gods!

Submarines? Why not - as others suggest there were aircraft of some sort.
Question: could it be that this records a visit by a civilisation already on Earth but destroyed (viz Atlantis) submarines, Arks... I think there are two threads here, one the original visitation and then the later catastrophes and colonisations (after all look at the Bushmen, the Australian Aborigines and the White civilisations in modern times, existing side by side).

the coming of the gods was registred as a fable and explained in terms easily understandable by the common people.

and that is why we can accept parts of the Bible without making a fuss about its Jewish origins because it is after all just an attempt to explain Man's origins and interpret what happened. What about the prophet whoi was "taken up into Heaven and shown the Earth"? his description sounds like that of an astronaut.

The bramanic traditions in the Sanskrit literature talk clearly of weapons with such a devastating power with effects simmilar to our nuclear weapons, and also about flying vehicle (Garudas and Vimanas)

which again suggests that there were many advanced civilisations about which we know nothing (mind you is it advanced to destroy each other?! with the "Thunderfeat" which sounds like an A-Bomb!

but time is little...

Never mind, I think we have enough to go on for the moment. I used to have many books on the subject, but have lent out so many that never came back that I now have none of them and must rely on memory to spin my theories - and memory plays tricks at times.

We can begin, though, to set out some basic suggestions about Man's origins which contradict the currently accepted set.