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    Police struggling as Oslo's crime rate jumps

    Oslo's police department is having a hard time coping with a rising crime rate. Only one in five reported cases is currently being resolved, police seem as frustrated as crime victims, and commentators worry that citizens are having to rely on private security firms to ensure their safety.

    The numbers, reported in newspaper Aftenposten, speak for themselves: No country has fewer police per capita than Norway, as many as 70 percent of so-called petty crimes are never followed up, and while the police force has increased 150 percent since 1960, the crime rate has increased 700 percent.

    With so few crimes being investigated and solved, observers worry that Norwegians are losing confidence in whether the police will even come when called. Seven of 10 Norwegians have no faith that they'll get any help if someone breaks into their home, notes Aftenposten..

    Justice Minister Knut Storberget, confronted with the challenges facing the police, has denied there's any crisis and points out that the Oslo Police District alone has received NOK 400 million in additional funding since 2000. He was harshly criticized, though, when he asked the public which cases the police should rank further down their lists when setting priorities, instead of addressing how the police could be equipped to do a better job.

    Police resources have been strained by their growing need to tackle organized crime, gang crime, some spectacular cases like the NOKAS and Munch robberies, and heightened security demands, not least for public figures, local embassies and members of the royal family.

    No less than six patrol cars, for example, were deemed necessary to lead a convoy of royals in Oslo over the weekend to celebrate King Harald's birthday, while a police helicopter hovered overhead. Oslo police are also obliged to constantly be on duty at several embassies in Oslo that are seen as terrorist targets.

    This comes at a time when the 190,000 residents of Oslo's Østensjø, Nordstrand and Søndre Nordstrand districts often have just one police patrol on duty, which itself often gets sent downtown on weekends to control violent drunks.

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    Concerns are rising that all this will lead Norwegians to take the law into their own hands. Many already are investing in personal alarms, pepper spray and private security firms. Homeowner associations, for example, are feeling forced to employ such firms to patrol apartment complexes at night and perform such tasks as telling partymakers to be quiet, because the police don't come when called.

    There currently are 8,250 police officers in Norway today, reports newspaper Aftenposten, but more than 10,000 private security guards spread over 250 different companies.

    This isn't the way it's supposed to be in a social welfare state like Norway, where law and order should be enforced for everyone and not just those wealthy enough to afford private security firms.

    "Today, the problems with the police are leading to new class differences," wrote Knut Olav Åmås, in charge of public debate and commentary at Aftenposten over the weekend. "So this is all about what kind of society Norway should be."


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    Re: Police struggling as Oslo's crime rate jumps

    Any kind of data as to what kind of crimes are being commited and by what kind of people(s)?

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    Sv: Police struggling as Oslo's crime rate jumps

    The last last weeks raping has been a big problem in Oslo and girls can't feel safe anymore after the dark. 16 attempts so far this year i think, mostly are the boys who do it foreigners.

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    Sv: Police struggling as Oslo's crime rate jumps

    Aftenposten

    65% of rapists are not ethnic norweigans. Iraqis and Somalis dominate the statistics.

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    Re: Sv: Police struggling as Oslo's crime rate jumps

    Quote Originally Posted by Enlil View Post
    You can't really rely on these figures either, because do they include 2nd generation immigrants in that group? Here in Sweden they don't, here they are counted as "Swedes" in the statistics.

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    Re: Police struggling as Oslo's crime rate jumps

    Maybe Norway will wake up to the 'crimmigant' problem before they steal their way into office.

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    Re: Police struggling as Oslo's crime rate jumps

    Quote Originally Posted by Blutwölfin View Post
    Oslo's police department is having a hard time coping with a rising crime rate. Only one in five reported cases is currently being resolved, police seem as frustrated as crime victims, and commentators worry that citizens are having to rely on private security firms to ensure their safety.
    This is most surprising. I was not even aware Norway had such firms...

    Privatizing police services
    Concerns are rising that all this will lead Norwegians to take the law into their own hands. Many already are investing in personal alarms, pepper spray and private security firms. Homeowner associations, for example, are feeling forced to employ such firms to patrol apartment complexes at night and perform such tasks as telling partymakers to be quiet, because the police don't come when called.

    There currently are 8,250 police officers in Norway today, reports newspaper Aftenposten, but more than 10,000 private security guards spread over 250 different companies.

    This isn't the way it's supposed to be in a social welfare state like Norway, where law and order should be enforced for everyone and not just those wealthy enough to afford private security firms.

    "Today, the problems with the police are leading to new class differences," wrote Knut Olav Åmås, in charge of public debate and commentary at Aftenposten over the weekend. "So this is all about what kind of society Norway should be."


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    Economically, this is merely another demonstration that governments face a very hard time calculating how to allocate resources, if not near impossible. Offer any good free at the point of consumption, allow demand to exceed supply, and quality will suffer. If these private security firms can do a better job than the police, why not favour them? This facile argument that they only favour the rich is idiotic from any point it is looked at.

    Firstly, in no market where the profit-maximising level of supply relies on mass consumption will firms opt to restrict supply, as this will push their prices up and limit demand (allowing another corporation to break in, undercut them and rob them of their market). Rather, they will price-discriminate. Is security a market open to price-discrimination? It is. The rich have different needs to the poor and middle classes, and the good cannot be resold. So, given a state of free competition, there is a priori no reason that only the rich should be favoured. In fact, this goes against economic sense. Secondly, when money is involved (and where the consumer can simply change suppliers), inefficient firms (like our current police forces) will be harmed, as consumers will simply opt for better service.

    Indeed, the article is correct that given the high taxes paid by Norwegians, they ought to receive better service and not have to rely on security firms to fulfill their needs. If people believe the State cannot provide good protection (it is hardly curious that this is the condition all over the world), they will take their protection into their own hands. What is so surprising about this!? Out of curiosity, is gun-ownership banned in Norway?

    I think this is a clear indicator that Norway should begin limiting immigration to it. It is costing it more than it is benefitting it!

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