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    How Is Your Ethnic Group Defined?

    Culturally me and my family are English, all surnames are English, all have been from the same area, you get the picture. Now, a lot of English people's familys are the same set-up (ie, as far as they know, everyone has been English through and through).

    On the Wikipedia article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_people it would suggest that the English are a destinctive ethnic group who primarily reside within England. By looking at the English population, there aren't many who look pure anglo-saxon, in my opinion, almost none. Some look Slavic, others Nordic, some Southern European, etc. All these people, although clearly having racial difference, identify themselves as being ethnically English, it's all their aware of in their family, and probably all that matters.

    So can people who don't have Anglo-Saxon roots, but have family who have no knowlodge of any links outside England, be considered ethnically English?
    Last edited by MetallicPain; Thursday, February 22nd, 2007 at 04:22 PM.

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    Re: How is your ethnic group defined?

    I am Dutch and nothing but Dutch. My family has lived on the Dutch coastline for hundreds of years. Probably fishermans!

    About your question: England isn't only built by A-S. It's build up by people from different ethnicities who formed one ethnicity. Quite simple..
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    Re: How is your ethnic group defined?

    Very loosely and unfortunately with diminished definition and clarity as time passes...

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    Re: How is your ethnic group defined?

    Quote Originally Posted by MetallicPain View Post
    By looking at the English population, there aren't many who look pure anglo-saxon, in my opinion, almost none. Some look Slavic, others Nordic, some Southern European, etc. All these people, although clearly having racial difference, identify themselves as being ethnically English, it's all their aware of in their family, and probably all that matters.
    By Anglo-Saxon, I assume you mean phenotype/subrace? According to Richard McCullough at Racial Compact (http://www.racialcompact.com/nordishrace.html) The population of England (ethnic English, not including immigrant populations) is;
    England = 30% Keltic Nordic (derived from pre-Roman Iron Age invaders), 20% Anglo-Saxon (post-Roman Germanic invaders, most common in the southeast, especially East Anglia), 15% North-Atlantid and 10% Paleo-Atlantid (blend of Mesolithic Atlanto-Mediterranean invaders with both earlier and later arrivals; most common in the Midlands and northwest), 8% Hallstatt Nordic ( of Viking and Norman derivation), 5% Brunn, 5% Tronder (of Norwegian Viking derivation; most common in the northeast), 3% Borreby and 2% Falish (both of Viking and Norman derivation; associated with the landed gentry; source of the "John Bull" type), 2% Noric (from Bronz-Age invaders) =100% Nordish (73% central and 27% periphery types).
    Obviously, most English are not of the Anglo-Saxon phenotype, but this doesn't mean they are not Anglo-Saxon. I wish Oswiu was here, so he could give you a good tongue-lashing. You seem to be obsessing about race/ethnicity to the point where it is becoming unhealthy (mentally). Chances are, if you go far enough back in your family tree you will find someone who is not English. Maybe a French Protestant or a German /Dutch mercenary. Go back far enough and you might find a Nubian soldier in the Roman Army from 300 A.D. But if your family is ethnically English then you will not have any genetically significant non-Europid ancestry.
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    Re: How is your ethnic group defined?

    I really don't know what Armenians are defined as? Anyone else know?

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