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    Post Re: Why do "Americans"...

    Quote Originally Posted by MVSSOLINI MIT VNS
    I do not hate Poles. I want to point out though that many of the joke, I believe are because of WWI and how Poland was using horses instead of vehicles. They were very industiralized and I think the jokes in the US just passed up to todays society.

    I think that you'll find that was during the September campaign in 39. WWII.
    This stemmed from a Polish cavalry division being surprised and surrounded by the germans. The order came through that instead of surrendering or fleeing they should attack. And attack they did. Heavily outnumbered and outgunned.
    Now correct me if I'm wrong, but where would a joke stem from this? This act shows true courage, bravery and fighting spirit that is found in Poles.
    Let them hate as long as they fear.

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    Post Re: Indifference

    Quote Originally Posted by Suomut2_13
    I think the general American attitude toward Poles is one of indifference--the main reason for this is that there just aren't many Polish Americans or Polish immigrants. There is only one well-known ethnic slur in America towards Poles, and that of course is 'Polak,' which is rarely spoken in this country, and when it is it is ususally in the company of the Polish-blooded and often in an affectionate/joking sense. And, I was informed several years ago by a sweet (female, and VERY beautiful) Polish-American-immigrant that even that term is actually not offensive to speakers of Polish (it merely means 'Polish man'). I would also agree that the primary source of anti-Polish sentiment in this country has probably been, especially in the past, from German-American circles...but even that has been no big deal. IMO, besides the general indifference, the attitudes are more often than not positive rather than negative.

    Isn't Chicago also known as "little Warsaw"?
    Let them hate as long as they fear.

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    Post Re: Indifference

    Quote Originally Posted by White_Eagle
    Isn't Chicago also known as "little Warsaw"?
    Some Poles I know from Chicago claim there is more Poles there than in Warsaw.

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    Post Re: Why do "Americans"...

    Quote Originally Posted by White_Eagle
    I think that you'll find that was during the September campaign in 39. WWII.
    This stemmed from a Polish cavalry division being surprised and surrounded by the germans. The order came through that instead of surrendering or fleeing they should attack. And attack they did. Heavily outnumbered and outgunned.
    Now correct me if I'm wrong, but where would a joke stem from this? This act shows true courage, bravery and fighting spirit that is found in Poles.
    Courageous it is, but did it actually happen? Who knows, Germans also used horses.

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    Post Re: Why do "Americans"...

    Quote Originally Posted by Elistariel
    can you tell me what you mean by "old American stock"?
    You know. Here since Colonial times or shortly after (are the mostly German and Irish immigrants who arrived here during the immigration flood in the 1830s considered old-stock? ).

    Anyway, most of the people here in the South are old-stock Americans. My area was spared from the immigration flood of the early 20th century, but there are a few much more recent European immigrants (myself included.)

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    Post Re: Why do "Americans"...

    Quote Originally Posted by Demigorgona
    My question is ... why do americans think they have never lost a war?

    *coughs*1812*coughs*whitehouseburneddown *coughs*
    They actually won the War of 1812, but they did lose the Vietnam War.

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    Post Re: Why do "Americans"...

    Quote Originally Posted by White_Eagle
    ...hold the Poles in such low esteem? Any views?
    I think it's mainly the dumb Polak jokes,that give off that impression, but I bet most of the people telling those jokes don't even know where Poland is on the map. Just as in other places you have Irish jokes, blonde jokes etc.

    We all know that Kosciuszko, Pulaski ( "I came here, where freedom is being defended, to serve it, and to live or die for it..." ) were American heroes, so it's kind of sad to see Anti-Polish views in America.

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    Post Re: Why do "Americans"...

    Quote Originally Posted by bocian
    Courageous it is, but did it actually happen? Who knows, Germans also used horses.

    Yes it did really happen. There are photos taken by a Wermacht soldier from his vehicle of this.
    I'll post them when I find them.

    All nations used horses throughout the war to some degree!

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    Post Re: Why do "Americans"...

    Quote Originally Posted by bocian
    I think it's mainly the dumb Polak jokes,that give off that impression, but I bet most of the people telling those jokes don't even know where Poland is on the map. Just as in other places you have Irish jokes, blonde jokes etc.

    We all know that Kosciuszko, Pulaski ( "I came here, where freedom is being defended, to serve it, and to live or die for it..." ) were American heroes, so it's kind of sad to see Anti-Polish views in America.


    Ah but Bocian my friend, how many Americans do you think actually know who Kosciuszko / Pulaski actually were?!
    Let them hate as long as they fear.

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    Post Re: Why do "Americans"...

    Quote Originally Posted by White_Eagle
    Ah but Bocian my friend, how many Americans do you think actually know who Kosciuszko / Pulaski actually were?!
    That's true. And that's the point.

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