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    Arrow The Racial Makeup of Northern Italy

    I don't see how "Northern ‘Italy’" is less [Celto-]Germanic than, say, (parts of) Flanders. People will acknowledge someone with Huzar's appearance as Germanic if he had Flemish ancestry and lived in Flanders. The emphasis lies with location I tend to notice often; geopolitics, I hope not?

    Feature-wise Huzar is partially dinaric/sub-nordid, sure, but you can definately see the nordish influences. "Northern ‘Italy’" is, traditionally at least, not "mediterranean"; neither sub-racially or geographically. (Not that mediterranean is something thoroughly ‘inferior,’ or whatever, just saying...)

    Note: I didn't start this thread, my post was originally a reply in the picture thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Illuminatus View Post
    not very much germanic preservation
    She is a Central european type according to her profile and so is he.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bridie View Post
    You don't distinguish between German and Italian?
    He meant Southern German vs. Northern Italian! i.e. (Bavarian vs. Padanian!)

    Not a Sicilian dago vs. a German from Schleswig-Holstein for example!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bridie View Post
    And I suppose if there is not much difference, ethnically, culturally or racially, between Bavarians and Padanians, then interbreeding matters not anyway.
    At least culturally and ethnically there is much of a difference. Quite much actually. Racially too, but on an individual level it doesn't matter that much, since there are Nordic,Alpine, etc North-Italians and there are even Mediterane Bavarians , the averages are different though. At least out of my experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jäger View Post
    At least culturally and ethnically there is much of a difference.
    Honestly, yes.

    N.Italy, afterall is part of "romanic" world, and reseamble more some parts of France (especially north-west italy).


    Racially too, but on an individual level it doesn't matter that much, since there are Nordic,Alpine, etc North-Italians and there are even Mediterane Bavarians , the averages are different though. At least out of my experience.
    Well, i'd say that racial difference isn't much marked. Averages could be different, but not by much.

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    Re: Northern Italy

    I have North Italian ancestry mainly, check out my classification thread:
    http://forums.skadi.net/classify_guy...ghlight=mirror

    That zone includes the Southern Tirol, which was the field of many battles between Italians and Austrians in order to gain it, so some times it was Italian and some others it was Austrian. For the same reason, you'll find a mix of Italian and German surnames at both sides of the frontier, and a non-official bilinguism. There are even redheads there, with Italian surnames.
    The different racial profile between Southern and Northern Italy is also the cause of a rivalry between those two regions.
    That doesn't mean that you'll find only nordids in the North and only meds in the south. Many of the controversia lies on an accurate definition of mediterranean, because I've noticed that a lot of people imagine real meds as arab looking people, and that's not true.

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    Re: Northern Italy

    There are also plenty of names of older Ostrogothic, Longobardian and Burgundian extraction; think of all the -ald[i]/-old[i], names (the extra letters, like -i, was due the latinization).

    Minaldi (Meinhold), Grimaldi (Grimoald), Garibaldi (Garibąld <= Gar[i]bald/Ger[i]bald/Ger[i]bold), etc.; in fact, I made a lot of pictures of cemetaries, houses, and a lot of names are latinized Ostrogothic, Longobardian and Burgundian.

    Many names have historical relevance often. Garbaldi, for example, garibąld (in other Germanic tongues also: Ger[i]bâld) was an old - and very common - Germanic weapon; the bold spear.

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    Re: Northern Italy

    Quote Originally Posted by Mazorquero View Post
    That zone includes the Southern Tirol, which was the field of many battles between Italians and Austrians in order to gain it, so some times it was Italian and some others it was Austrian. For the same reason, you'll find a mix of Italian and German surnames at both sides of the frontier, and a non-official bilinguism. There are even redheads there, with Italian surnames.
    Actually South Tyrol isn't really that sort of land that "changed" around between Germany, or Austria, and Italy so much. Since the Occidental ethno-nations shaped themselves out, that area belonged to the German and then to the Austrian Empire for the whole time of its history, and it came to Italy not before after World War I where it stayed until now (apart from a short phase in late World War II where Hitler "convinced" Mussolini to transfer it to Germany). Also the German-Italian language border corresponds relatively sharply with South Tyrol's southern border. The Italian-German bilinguism is a very official one, now. However, the ethnic Italians in South Tyrol are not a traditional, an autochthonous group; the Italians there, mostly concentrated in the big cities, especially in Bozen, were brought to there from Southern Italy since the 1920s as part of the Italianisation and de-Germanisation campaign the Italian government caried through. Autochthonous alien-ethnic exclaves you'll rather find German ones further South than any Italian ones north of the basic language border. Besides the Germans, there are in one part of South Tyrol only the speakers of Ladin, a Romance language lingually related with the Reto-Romanic speakers in the Swiss Alpes; culturally and "nationally", the Ladins are traditionally troublefree interweaved with the Germans in South Tyrol.

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