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    The Regional "Conflicts" Within Your Nation?

    I thought it would be interesting to hear if there are clear "battle lines" drawn in your country when it comes to different regions, in other words: regional "xenophobia" . This is not meant to be a serious topic so bare with me.

    In Sweden there are three regions with their respective populations which stand out in this battle, and in between which the most bickering exists. It's Norrland with its Norrlänningar (in the north), there's Skåne with its Skåningar (in the south) and finally Stockholm and its Stockholmare (in the middle, by the east coast). Norrlänningar are seen stereotypically as a Swedish version of America's rednecks, retarded, inbred alcoholics who hunt drink and don't talk, Skåningar are viewed as danes (or danskjävlar as they are commonly referred to) more or less who can't speak properly yet constantly engages in verbal communication and who are generally annoying, and finally Stockholmarna who are viewed as wannabe cosmopolitan, arrogant and with a superiority complex, speaking a nasal and highly annoying dialect. This is all from my perspective as a Norrlänning.

    What does this regional conflict look like in your country?

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    Re: The regional "conflicts" within your nation?

    Hmm, well I live in Sweden too. It's not my country, but I'd like to add Göteborgare to that list. I don't know what to say about them though.

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    Re: The regional "conflicts" within your nation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Red Skull View Post
    Hmm, well I live in Sweden too. It's not my country, but I'd like to add Göteborgare to that list. I don't know what to say about them though.
    Well most seem to like Göteborgarna, their dialect is sometimes made fun of but the only stereotype that i know of would be that they are jolly and enjoy telling jokes, they're pretty much harmless in other words and hence don't get on peoples nerves .

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    Re: The regional "conflicts" within your nation?

    Where do I began. There is the South. And Texas. Utah stands out from the rest of West. There are differences in New England between the urban areas in the southern part of that region and the more rural Anglo-Saxon areas to the North. I've always considered New York City to be almost a different country from the rest of the US. There are differences within the various states. The US is madeup of several distinct regions which do not necessarily correspond to statelines. But many of those differences are becoming blurred due to the increase mobility of the US population & the fact that nearly all areas of the US are being Hispanicized.

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    Re: The regional "conflicts" within your nation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Patriotpatrik
    Well most seem to like Göteborgarna, their dialect is sometimes made fun of but the only stereotype that i know of would be that they are jolly and enjoy telling jokes, they're pretty much harmless in other words and hence don't get on peoples nerves.
    and finally Stockholmarna who are viewed as wannabe cosmopolitan, arrogant and with a superiority complex, speaking a nasal and highly annoying dialect.
    Savonians in the Central-Eastern Finland are just like Göteborgarna but unlike Göteborgarna they are frequently "rednecks" and they do get on people's nerves. No one understands their dialect. People in our capital Helsinki are a bit like Stockholmare in Sweden.

    Then there are coastal Swedish-speakers (svenskjävlar) who are rich and a little bit "feminine" elitists. The city of Turku (Åbo) is commonly called as "the asshole of Finland" because it is located in Southwestern Finland and its inhabitans are referred as stupid. Osthrobotnians in Western Finland are really tough and straightforward people. They always drive on a tractor and they are very "Redneck". In northern Finland there are only Sami people, reindeers, alcoholics and some entrepreneurs who own ski centers. Karelians in the East are humorous and talkative and Tavastians in West-Central Finland are archetypical Finns: silent and slow people.

    I want to remind that these are just stereotypes.

    Norrlänningar are seen stereotypically as a Swedish version of America's rednecks, retarded, inbred alcoholics who hunt drink and don't talk, Skåningar are viewed as danes (or danskjävlar as they are commonly referred to)
    If Skåningar are "danskjävlar", are Norlänningar "finnjävlar" then? I'm asking just out of curiosity.

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    Re: The regional "conflicts" within your nation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ovid View Post
    If Skåningar are "danskjävlar", are Norlänningar "finnjävlar" then? I'm asking just out of curiosity.
    I don't think so, but i don't associate myself with Skåningar or Stockholmare so i can't say for sure . Any southerner here who could answer this?

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    Re: The regional "conflicts" within your nation?

    In Germany there is a traditional North-South polarity where the "dryer" mentality is attributed to the North and the "warmer" to the South Germans. The different landscape forms, the flatland with the coast in the North, and the relief-rich, mountanous areas in the South emphasise that polarity. The Bavarians play the role as southern stem group habing the mostly silhouetted character with stem-own folklore traditions; the people living about north of the river Main simply run under the label "Prussians" for many Bavarians. The stemly self-awareness of the Bavarians within the Germans and the Bavarian's jestingly inscenated antagonism to the "Prussian" constitutes the most important national running joke with respect to "regionalism". It's a classic in which the earthy and popular Bavarian dialect plays a great role.

    The North-South polarity is intersected by the polarity between West and Middle Germany, between the areas of the old FRG and GDR as result of 45 years of different socio-economic system conditioning (a polarity which has quite sharp borderlines which are identical with the Iron Curtain). There's also a general older east-west polarity where the contrasts may be marked between the sanguineous-lighthearted character of the Rhinish lands and the austere nature of regions such as East Prussia. But with the expulsion of the East Germans the present situation is different here.

    The North-South polarity also exists en miniature within the ex-GDR territories where Saxony and Thuringia form the southern block, also with differences of landscape and dialect in comparison to the other three Middle German lands. It's especially the Saxons who are something like the "Bavarians of Middle Germany". Similar to Bavaria the Saxon dialect functions as prominent marker for the cultivation of stemly self-awareness. Very different to Bavarian, Saxon speech, however, is not loved much by other Germans. In statistics on the popularity of dialects it usually takes place below stairs while Bavarian uses to be at the head.

    The polarity between West and Middle Germany is of course one between economically stronger and weaker regions. However, also the North-South polarity is reproduced in an economic polarity with stronger regions in the South and weaker in the North. That applies also for the inner-ex-GDR area where Saxony and Thuringia do economically better than the three northern lands.

    For some reason, the East Frisians became the main national figures of fun. There exists a large corpus of jokes on the East Frisians. I don't know when it was that they started to adopt that little desirable role, but it will be hard to shake off that image again for them if ever.

    There are of course more regional group attributions. The people of Berlin, for example, have the image to be verbally extremely rude, harsh and direct. That is indeed true. The usual slang of the city sounds "proletarian"; and in the western part of the city the upper classes use to reject speaking it too pronounced. Oh yes, the contrast between the ex-FRG and the ex-GDR areas exists here of course as pocket version as contrast within one city.

    Those are some "conflicts" within the FRG. If one continues with extra-FRG German folk territories it's especially the regional character profiles of the Swiss and of the Austrians that must be added here. While the Swiss, Alemannics like the Swabians, are said in much to be on par with or to be the even denser concentration of some character features typically attributed to the Swabians (diligence, thrift), the Austrians are something like secondary Bavarians, however all in all an a bit more tenderised and refined version of their gruffier western stem brothers, due to the past imperial culture, that especially in Vienna. The Austrian-Viennese tone of the Bavarian dialect has indeed something smeary.
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    Re: The regional "conflicts" within your nation?

    As Madoc said, where do I begin. I will begin from the perspective of my personal prejudices whatever they are worth.

    NYC/Eastern Seaboard: whine about everything, their weather is a great example. They all wake up each morning and are shocked, shocked to find they don't live in Hololulu. Their local weather somehow becomes a national news story. 9/11, the whining goes on until all our rights are taken away. What is worth more, a World Trade Center or one word of our Constitution? I wouldn't trade 100 World Trade Centers for one period in our Constitution.

    Bible Belt/Red State America: How do you communicate with people who don't live in our rational world? There is no communication. I can talk with a raving Liberal but not a Neo/Theo Con.

    San Francisco: An island all alone. It is really not California nor the West nor the East. It is a very depressing place full of drug addicts, urine smell on the best streets, bums, cold weather in the summer--ugggh. Seattle and Portland seem wonderful in comparison inspite of the liberal values of both these places.

    Northern, Eastern, Far Western States: Rational, secular outlook for the most part.

    Border States with Mexico and Florida: Si, habla Espanol. Learn how to order Mexican food.

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    Re: The regional "conflicts" within your nation?

    The South Western United States of America is being overran with a strategic aim in place. It is coordinated and well orchestrated. The mescrement want to create the mythical land of Aztlan. So far, they are doing a real fine job of it. www.aztlan.net

    Los Angeles is having black gangs versus mexican gangs. My friend and I were thinking of going there and selling weapons to both sides. (legally of course) And providing propaganda to both sides. We could stand back and enjoy the fireworks. And laugh with our full bellies all the way to the bank. Isn't that what the jew does to opposing Germanics?

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    Re: The regional "conflicts" within your nation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Patriotpatrik View Post
    I don't think so, but i don't associate myself with Skåningar or Stockholmare so i can't say for sure . Any southerner here who could answer this?
    Being a Stockholmare I can tell you that Norrlänningar are sometimes considered "finnjävlar".

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