View Poll Results: Do you eat meat?

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    I know this is a late reply, but I maintain a vegetarian diet - but not strictly, with the occasional chicken noodle soup for when I get sick (I know there are alternatives which substitute the chicken with tofu but they aren't always easy to obtain).

    Minor health and ethical reasons aside, I've been persuaded that a vegetarian diet is guaranteed victory in the end as an inevitability. It's a biological fact that vegetarian animals outlast their carnivorous predators (the hare compared to the cheetah), and more so, that we mainly feast on animals which subsist on a vegetarian diet! Also, the fact that vegetarian animals maintain their teeth better compared to carnivores (like sharks). As biological science gains more ground in the social world, so too will vegetarianism.

    It's no coincidence that healthy practices like vegetarianism and cremation disappeared with the advent of Christianity. Of course, it'd be improper of me to label these concepts as pagan, but they were generally well-accepted among those circles and there existed in those days the notion the Jewish community had established their cult in opposition to their neighbors. The Jew's idea of burial as an expectation of resurrection had nothing to do with the Egyptian form of burial (see Porphyry). I would add that, like Julian, I actually admire the Jews for their abstinence from swine. It's a sound decision. Now if only this aversion would extend to other animal meat...

    I absolutely abhor eating seafood. I doubt that Jesus ever promoted it's consumption. Feeding of the thousands and catching of the fish sound more suited to be parables than miracles. The use of fish as a symbol is prevalent throughout the gospels, even in so-called "gnostic" literature.

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    I have an annoying militant vegan friend on Facebook (who I still follow cause of her beautiful artwork) who attempts to shock people into becoming veggies by the usual slaughterhouse videos and weird screeds on how drinking milk is bad for you. I have no problem with people making their own choices- but too many vegetarians and vegans are all preachy about it and I don't appreciate that at all.
    It's deplorable when their propagandists take a dogmatic turn for the worst, there's no need to force anyone to make the transition. It will come about naturally.

    It's likewise appalling when I hear about vegetarianism/veganism being a conspiracy. Where does this idea that meat is necessary for a healthy diet come from? IIRC it was foisted on me via a food pyramid diagram. That's the real conspiracy. Back then, I used to think man would starve if he lived on vegetables and grains alone. Turns out I was wrong.

    What's clear to me is that it's not enough to promote mere health or ethical reasons for going vegetarian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icarus View Post
    It's a biological fact that vegetarian animals outlast their carnivorous predators (the hare compared to the cheetah) ...
    Yes, but humans are omnivores. So what is your point?

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    Also, the fact that vegetarian animals maintain their teeth better compared to carnivores (like sharks).
    Yes, but sharks do not cook or fillet their prey. So what is your point?

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    As biological science gains more ground in the social world, so too will vegetarianism.
    Mere speculation. There are no definitive findings regarding the health of food, that is because randomized and placebo controlled studies about food are virtually impossible to conduct with humans.
    The only real insight we have into eating is: eat variably and not too much. And coincidentally, that is what Aristoteles said 2,400 years ago. We haven't gotten much further, scientifically.

    Quote Originally Posted by Icarus View Post
    It's no coincidence that healthy practices like vegetarianism and cremation disappeared with the advent of Christianity.
    Where do you get your information from? Little is known about the eating habits of old, general census is that the people of that time weren't that picky, and simply ate what they could find (including meat), period.

    Would you even abstain from eating meat if there were nothing else to eat (which happened quite often in history)?

    Quote Originally Posted by Icarus View Post
    Where does this idea that meat is necessary for a healthy diet come from?
    From a time where you couldn't chose between thousands of foreign vegetables and fruits, and people simply had problems to meet their calorie and nutrition demand.
    It is scientific census, that your body can salvage nutrition from animals better, since their structure resembles our needs more closely.

    Quote Originally Posted by Icarus View Post
    Back then, I used to think man would starve if he lived on vegetables and grains alone. Turns out I was wrong.
    Versatility is an advantage, if you want to be like the Koala and only eat eucalyptus, you will look stupid if there is no eucalyptus anymore.

    Quote Originally Posted by Icarus View Post
    What's clear to me is that it's not enough to promote mere health or ethical reasons for going vegetarian.
    There are no proven health reasons, ethical arguments are the only valid ones. What else do you have in mind?
    "Nothing is more disgusting than the majority: because it consists of a few powerful predecessors, of rogues who adapt themselves, of weak who assimilate themselves, and the masses who imitate without knowing at all what they want." (Johann Wolfgang Goethe)

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    It's been a while since I posted here last time, but I'm not going to read everything that was posted here meanwhile.

    So, it seems like I've been a vegetarian since 2010 so far. I tried to go vegan a few times, but I don't really see the point in being vegan. And when I see so much aggressive propaganda about it...

    I can't tolerate milk, as I already stated in another thread. But I eat some other milk products from time to time, without too many problems, it depends. I usually don't eat eggs, just occasionally, on Easter or as ingredients in something else.

    Honey is very healthy, also a natural remedy, and I don't even think to stop consuming it, which some vegans do.

    However, when I'm going somewhere and they ask me about diet, I prefer to choose vegan, to avoid any milk or whatever hormones the animals were fed up with. More healthy that way. Unless it's some artificial made butter or whatever other artificial cheese products, which are obviously worse than the real ones.

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    Oh, come on... I couldn't resist not replying to this, when I saw it... So then I'm a poor hunter, I have to admit.

    Basically, I started to be vegetarian for health reasons, and then found some other reasons too. I consider veganism, though, but some types of cheese are just too good. Also the B12 thing, I'd prefer to have it naturally, so veganism is not so appealing for me for too many reasons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thusnelda View Post

    Okay...Im curious about the attitude towards meat within the Skadi Community. Do you eat meat? Are you a vegetarian!?? Or do you dont eat meat and reject even milk-produkts (veganism)?
    I eat some meat and I will eat what is offered to me, though my diet is mostly plant-based. Truthfully, I'd be perfectly happy with a totally vegetarian diet. I wouldn't dream of eliminating milk-products from my diet, though!

    Quote Originally Posted by Thusnelda View Post
    And why do you like/dislike meat? Because of ethic reasons? Reasons of taste? Or is it ideology - like "straight edge" or something like that!?
    No specific reason, just personal preference, though I did go through a stage in my teens where I echoed Morrissey's sentiments about meat. I would rather eschew meat altogether if it's low quality or badly prepared.
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    I'm an omnivore. I eat meat, not red meat in large quantities, and various kinds of vegetables and fruits, as well as having a glass of milk every day or two. Meat and plant based foods are both needed for an adequate diet, in my opinion.

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    As an omnivore, I like properly prepared meat, fruit, and vegetables.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gareth Lee Hunter View Post
    As an omnivore, I like properly prepared meat, fruit, and vegetables.
    We mainly eat baked chicken, turkey, and fish though Gareth. Occasionally red meat. But not very often.
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    I usually eat what's on the table .

    I am not too confident with poultry , though .
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    My first and foremost target is to eat healthy ways (one thing my parents have taught on me). So something from everywhere...


    But I avoid unnecessary fatts, carbohydrates, sugars etc.

    For example I drink 0% fatt milk, I choose dark bred over white breads, I eat cheeses pretty rarely. Cakes and biscuits only in parities/celebrations. But yes ... I eat some meat; part of lunch or dinner. Pretty often I go and choose ''lighter'' chicken over real red meat ... or fish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    My first and foremost target is to eat healthy ways (one thing my parents have taught on me). So something from everywhere...


    But I avoid unnecessary felts, carbohydrates, sugars etc.

    For example I drink 0% felt milk, I choose dark bred over white breads, I eat cheeses pretty rarely. Cakes and biscuits only in parities/celebrations. But yes ... I eat some meat; part of lunch or dinner. Pretty often I go and choose ''lighter'' chicken over real red meat ... or fish.
    How do you avoid ?
    Avoidance by purchasing products ?

    With "felt" milk , you mean "fat reduced" milk ?
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