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  • Yes, I eat meat, but I´m not a "carnivore" (meat-lover)

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  • Yes, I love meat. It´s a big part of my bill of fare

    140 51.85%
  • No, I don´t eat/like meat, but I eat/drink milk-products (Vegetarism)

    21 7.78%
  • No, I neither like/eat meat, nor milk products (Veganism)

    18 6.67%
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Thread: Vegetarianism, Veganism or Carnivorism!?

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    I try to follow a diet for good yoga and meditation. Meat, fish, eggs, onion, garlic and mushrooms are forbidden on a strict yoga diet.

    I break this diet for convienience (this is Kali Yuga), but I despise myself for it, because I know that it works and has done for about 3000 years or more.

    There is one restaurant which fully dedicates itself to saatvic food in London, and it is 'Govinda's' the restaurant of the Radha-Krishna temple on Soho Street, and it is, without any doubt in my mind, the best restaurant in London.

    There are other restaurants which will cook saatvic food if you ask them, as they have Jain and observant Brahmin customers, but I do not bother with that. Temple food is the best.

    When I break this diet, I become an ordinary lacto-vegetarian who also eats a little bit of egg, but I am not proud of myself for doing this, it is quite a step down for me. I think that if most try being saatvic for a while they would notice the difference when going back. It is not for everyone though and there are Kings and Queens who eat 'pig 'n' onion' for breakfast...

    Here are two conflicting opinions:

    Quote Originally Posted by Engelbrecht View Post
    There is no doubt that man is made to eat meat. Hunting/gathering is our nature.

    As I can see you are from Iceland. Close to you, on Greenland, lives a people that prior to their "westernisation" lived on meat and fish alone. There has been few people on earth beeing more healthy than theese your neighbours, the Inuits.

    Stick to your meat - avoid bread, rice, pasta and potatoes! This will keep you lean and healthy!
    Quote Originally Posted by Sissi View Post
    I eat meat, but it's not more important to me than other parts of my diet like vegetables, so I couldn't say I'm a "carnivore". I don't support vegetarianism or veganism. There is a food pyramid and we need vitamins and intake from each kind of food category.
    The food pyramid, with a large chunk of carbs at the bottom, was devised by the U.S. Department of Agriculture and I would think twice about it. It was devised with economy not people in mind.

    Americans, in particular, have loaded themselves up with carbs for far too long and are now rather obese as a nation. Carbohydrates are also the staple foods of the poorest people in the world. Look at the evidence.

    I do not 'stick to my meat', but I avoid loading up on carbs. Emphasis on protein and animal fat... in the form of butter ghee - the purest animal fat there is, intended for *little baby animals*, that is.

    I do not think that it is cruel as long as we look after the animals properly. Oh, and I like leather and fur as well, to wear though, not to eat.

    I avoid meat because the vedas say that we can do better. Meat is evaluated in ayurveda has having some beneficial qualities, but veg is for success in dharma.

    There are also special quidelines on how to consume dairy products to optimise the use of agni (digestive fire).

    If I have kids, they will be brought up this way. My last girlfriend had no appreciation for saatvic food whatsoever, and the consequences were unfortunate, to say the least.

    For me, it is the most important thing, so when I am looking, I am looking for someone who also prefers saatvic and wants to bring up children that way. Even in the 'yoga community' such individuals are scarce because hatha yoga is taught to people who eat meat and to women now, whereas before it was only Brahmin men.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fortis_in_Arduis View Post
    I try to follow a diet for good yoga and meditation. Meat, fish, eggs, onion, garlic and mushrooms are forbidden on a strict yoga diet.
    Why mushrooms?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulf View Post
    Why mushrooms?
    No fermented products either. Just dirty mate.

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    Well, at the highschool I went to, there was chicken at lunchtime so often ...

    Nonetheless, I've never been fond of chicken; I don't even it consider it to be "real" meat ... "Real" meat to me is red meat .

    Quote Originally Posted by Ulf View Post
    Any reason in particular? I love chicken, but pork is like a lost love found again.

    I love venison. Not too fond of beef, but it gets the job done.


    Too much meat? Blasphemy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sheriff skullface View Post
    my mind is very open to both a meat diet and Vegetarianism as good healthy diets for people, although I must say I really don't like Veganism and see it as pretty pointless even, I'd even go as far to say that I suspect a hint of Humanism in the philsophies supporting Veganism
    If vegans are humanists, so are vegetarians. It's the same mindset at differing extremes. Some people go vegetarian for health reasons, but equally, some people go vegan for health reasons (because it can have further health benefits than vegetarianism - zero bad cholesterol). No offence to any of Skadi's vegetarian members, but vegetarianism in an industrial-farming society is often a half-baked attempt at the more complete diet of veganism. Understandable considering that it is more difficult to lead a vegan lifestyle.

    Quote Originally Posted by Leofric View Post
    How do you feel about plants?
    Plants aren't sentient beings. It's as simple as that. I love and respect plants, but we cannot survive on thin air. Veganism is about causing the least amount of suffering possible whilst still enabling yourself to survive as a healthy human being.

    Quote Originally Posted by Leofric View Post
    Ultimately, I'd like to control the production of all my food and clothing so that I can see to it that everything that dies for my sake dies as well as it can.
    Ultimately, that's my cause - that's the reason I'm vegan. I don't necessarily disagree with the act of eating meat or dairy, I just cannot reconcile the factory farming methods with which we do this. You can eat free-range foods, but as soon as you go to a restaurant or eat some unlabelled chocolate there's no way to be sure what you're eating wasn't created through industrial cruelty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fortis_in_Arduis View Post
    Americans, in particular, have loaded themselves up with carbs for far too long and are now rather obese as a nation. Carbohydrates are also the staple foods of the poorest people in the world. Look at the evidence.

    I do not 'stick to my meat', but I avoid loading up on carbs. Emphasis on protein and animal fat... in the form of butter ghee - the purest animal there is, intended for *little baby animals*, that is.
    Just 70 years ago, in Sweden, meat was a luxury for many. My grandmother was raised on potatoes, salted herring (which was affordable even for peasants), thin bread made from barley, milk, porridge made from barley flour and a typical northern food called palt which is made from a dough of barley flour and potatoes, formed into round clumps that are then boiled (and if available would contain a filling of bits of pork). For Christmas they had meatballs but those were pretty much their only sources of meat. And my grandmother's family had it relatively good compared to many others in the village. Some ate barley-porridge for breakfast, lunch and dinner more or less, another common food was barley thin bread that was allowed to soak in milk (blöta). My grandmother lived in a village up in the north of Sweden and her father was the owner of a hemman, a taxed farm-property.

    I cherish my meat and don't take it for granted. Being able to eat a simple dish of meat and potatoes is a real treat.

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    I don´t like the discussion about which kind of eating is healthier or not. It may always lead to conflicts, there are nearly epical discussions about that issue on the Internet. We shouldn´t start with this issue here again, please! Okay?

    I´ve the point of view that everyone should eat what he or she wants, but shouldn´t try to influence others. Honestly I´m always getting a little bit angry if Vegetarians or Vegans want to lecture me about my preference for eating meat products. (May it be of ethical reasons or reasons of health). I´ve always eaten meat, I like many rustical meat-meals (they´re a large part of our local culture and cuisine) and I find them delicious, so I don´t want to be influenced by anyone in my eating habits. Vegetarians/Vegans demand respect for their habit from others, so they should show the same respect to others, too. No one is superior or inferior only because he/she eats meat or not.

    "Judge of your natural character by what you do in your dreams" - Ralph Waldo Emerson

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    I eat no meat, some fish and try to reduce/avoid dairy produce consumption. I was vegan for many years but as my wife isn't and we have travelled around quite a bit in the past we came to this pragmatic compromise.

    I can't stand aggressive pushy vegetarians/vegans, it's like a religion to some of these people. Some carnivores can be equally annoying. Personally I believe humans should be, for biological and environmental reasons, primarily vegan, but we are clearly omnivores, not herbivores.
    Last edited by Haereticus; Friday, November 28th, 2008 at 06:26 PM. Reason: Added the word 'some' in second paragraph

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    I'd sooner die than stop eating meat. I could go all on about humans were meant to be omnivores and thus meat is a natural part of our diet, and I could also go on that the world would have gone to ruin long ago if all creatures only ate plants, and would be overpopulated by animals and underpopulated by plants - but let's face it I don't base any of my meat-eating on that.

    Fact is, I've been pretty much raised on "Meat & Dumplings" if that's what you're going to have. In my local cuisine it is almost impossible to find a "vegetarian" dish, unless you're talking about eating whole plates of Sauerkraut, really. Well, and all the traditional "pasta" dishes such as Schlutzkrapfen or Kasnock'n or even Kasspatzl'n.

    Anyway, I just love my good old rare steak at the end of a long day, it's easily the best thing since sliced bread. Like Valkyrie, I've always been rather fond of them rustical meat-based dishes and I could not imagine life without them. I've tried tofu and the likes, but it just doesn't compare to the real experience.

    If I'd no longer be able to eat a good steak or a nice dish of game with a good accompaniment, such as Hirschragout mit Semmelknödel, that'd just take all the fun out of life.

    Meat, meat and meat for the win!
    -In kalte Schatten versunken... /Germaniens Volk erstarrt / Gefroren von Lügen / In denen die Welt verharrt-
    -Die alte Seele trauernd und verlassen / Verblassend in einer erklärbaren Welt / Schwebend in einem Dunst der Wehmut / Ein Schrei der nur unmerklich gellt-
    -Auch ich verspüre Demut / Vor dem alten Geiste der Ahnen / Wird es mir vergönnt sein / Gen Walhalla aufzufahren?-

    (Heimdalls Wacht, In kalte Schatten versunken, stanzas 4-6)

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    Carnivore here. I love beef steak, and adore fried bacon for breakfast. Less of a poultry fan, although a chicken sandwich can be nice once in a while.

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