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    Re: Human Nature?

    IMHO, Blacks are like that because they have forgotten their heritage and have been forced into christianity or islam, they need to be blacks. I suppose North and South American Indians, Australian Aboriginals, Eskimos, and many other aboriginal people face this dilemma. Asians who have remained in their heritage do not face any conflict like that.

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    Re: Human Nature?

    I suppose there is a human nature insofar human beings share a biological basis.

    Quote Originally Posted by Moody
    Then the question remains, if modified in terms of words: what is the characteristic which makes the 'animal nature' of humans different from the 'animal nature' of other animals?
    The capacity for self-consciousness.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aupmanyav
    IMHO, Blacks are like that because they have forgotten their heritage and have been forced into christianity or islam, they need to be blacks. I suppose North and South American Indians, Australian Aboriginals, Eskimos, and many other aboriginal people face this dilemma. Asians who have remained in their heritage do not face any conflict like that.
    I appreciate your point and think there is a lot of truth to it, but I think that in the case of black people there are other factors at work as well. Their rather low average IQ is well documented and there is evidence they combine it with higher levels of testosterone. This is definitely a factor in their behaviour; on average, their biological constitution makes them more prone to violence and rape. According to Rushton's research, East Asians are on the other end of this spectrum, having high IQs and low testosterone levels. Biology isn't all, of course, but it lays a basis the various social, economic and cultural forces then build upon.
    Last edited by Siegfried; Friday, February 2nd, 2007 at 10:37 AM.

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    Re: Human Nature?

    Given that there is a broad agreement on the existence of a 'human nature' [the quibble being only how diffrentiated it is from 'animal nature' - i.e., whether it be different in type or kind], we should then go onto the next question which naturally follows;

    is there just one human nature?

    Would we say that men and women, for example, share the same 'human nature'?
    Or would we have to say - along the lines of 'women are from venus, men are from mars' - that there is rather a 'male nature' and a 'female nature'?

    Differences between races have already been referred to, and here too, we would posit different natures.

    Even more, within a particular race and gender itself there are different natures.
    If Kant is right about 'rational beings', then isn't the more rational man of a wholly different nature to the brutish man?

    So, to say that there is a 'human nature' is not enough.
    There are many 'human natures', and philosophy will only begin when we can start to detail these different types.
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    Re: Human Nature?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moody View Post
    Even more, within a particular race and gender itself there are different natures.
    In India, we know that as 'Samskaras'. Genetical tendencies, education, family circumstances, social circumstances, religion. All inputs in a human mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Istigkeit View Post
    Is there actually such a thing as human nature, more than the biological urges to eat and reproduce? I've heard rebellion, vengefulness, promiscuity, and religion all labelled as being a part of human nature. Obviously religion and spirituality cross cultures, but what about other traits? Are certain personality traits just a result of genetics and enculturation? Would they change if an individual was born into another culture? Is "human nature" a valid excuse for traits and actions generally regarded as bad or evil?

    You can take it from here. I'm not a good public speaker.
    Good question. Yes, I think there is such a thing as human nature. I don't think human nature is totally evil, but I do think it is weakened and inclined towards certain disordered desires and behaviours. I don't think "human nature" is a valid excuse for traits and actions regarded as bad or evil, because there are certain truths that are written on the human heart and can be known by the light of human reason. Conscience plays a big role, especially a well-formed conscience.
    'Well, what are you?" said the Pigeon. "I can see you're trying to invent something!" "I-I'm a little girl," said Alice, rather doubtfully. She found herself at last in a beautiful garden, among the bright flower-beds and the cool fountains.



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