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    Is it "weird" that we are evolved from African-like people?

    If the question is too specific then there will be mass disagreement over the premise... but I think we'd all agree that (1) at one stage our ancestors were based in Africa and (2) probably very dark. And very un-European, let alone Caucasian in the wider sense.




    Do you find it weird or interesting?

    BTW second option should read, "Yes, a little... BUT thousands of years of adaption to Europe is what makes us who we are"

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    Re: Is it "weird" that we are evolved from African-like people?

    Some seem to be uncomfortable with it, but I don't see the problem. We also have apes and amphibians among our ancestors. It's open to debate how dark our African forebears really were though. Mankind's closest relative, the chimpansee, doesn't have particularly dark skin either. We probably darkened when we lost our fur, but it's questionable whether we really reached the degree of darkness now observed in Negroid people.


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    Re: Is it "weird" that we are evolved from African-like people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Siegfried View Post
    Some seem to be uncomfortable with it, but I don't see the problem. We also have apes and amphibians among our ancestors.
    Damn..... I forgot about the whole "evolution thing" (prior to primitive humans) It's true, we came from the primordial swamp/soup substance.

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    Re: Is it "weird" that we are evolved from African-like people?

    What do you mean "we are evolved from African-like people" I thought we were created by a Aryan spaceman named Enki.

    In all seriousness, when you say African-like do you mean the current Congoid inhabitants of Africa? What makes you think our ancestors were like that? Obviously we share common ancestors many thousands of generations ago with modern day Negroes, who came from Africa, but those common ancestors may had more like the "black" Cushitic peoples of the horn of Africa, who appear to be of mixed Negro/Caucasian heritage or the blackskinned aboringal peoples of India or Australia.
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    Re: Is it "weird" that we are evolved from African-like people?

    Exactly--race deniers love the Out of Africa theory to throw at white racialists.... Sort of like "see, you whites came from Africa originally too and therefore you and the blacks are brothers..."

    Well, what they fail to think about is that Out of Africa does not imply that Europids descend from Negroids. Rather, they both are a divergence from a common source that was niether one of the two...

    But yeah, it's kind of weird.

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    Re: Is it "weird" that we are evolved from African-like people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Allenson View Post
    Exactly--race deniers love the Out of Africa theory to throw at white racialists.... Sort of like "see, you whites came from Africa originally too and therefore you and the blacks are brothers..."

    Well, what they fail to think about is that Out of Africa does not imply that Europids descend from Negroids. Rather, they both are a divergence from a common source that was niether one of the two...
    True, but there is genetic evidence the peoples who left Africa experienced greater selection and mutation, suggesting Negroids resemble the common root more than we do.

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    Re: Is it "weird" that we are evolved from African-like people?

    I think the single origin theory or "Out of Africa" is more probable than the multiregional hypothesis theory, it is supported by more and better evidence. The multiregional hypothesis is quite similar to "Out of Africa" they just differ in time periods.

    In the single-origin theory(or out of Africa) the early spaiens left Africa and these emigrants spread to the rest of the world and replaced other hominids in Eurasia.

    In the multiregional theory the Homo Erectus emigrants left Africa and spread to the rest of the world.

    Btw: Capoid-like are the first ones not Negroids.

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    Re: Is it "weird" that we are evolved from African-like people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Madoc View Post
    In all seriousness, when you say African-like do you mean the current Congoid inhabitants of Africa. What makes you think our ancestors were like that?
    No, the second of the two pictures I chose purposely to show a Capoid.

    I think our "African" ancestors are in the Capoid / Australian Aborigine / Paleo-Mongoloid direction, basically prognathic, flat-featured and with medium brown skin.

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    Re: Is it "weird" that we are evolved from African-like people?

    I don't find the evolution from AfroMorphs "weird" per se; but (and I feel strange and simultaneously justified in saying this) I do feel as if I am in the presence of .....apes, when they are about: like I've gone to the zoo, or something. The affect, demeanor, mannerisms etc. are all quite alien to me: I know of no other word that better describes AfroMorphs than 'primitive'.

    - I think they are strange: an evolutionary remnant of a - paradoxically - quantitative majority.
    "...The moral man is a lower species than the immoral, a weaker species; indeed - he is a type in regard to morality, but not a type in himself; a copy...the measure of his value lies outside him. ... I assess the power of a will by how much resistance, pain, torture it endures and knows how to turn to its advantage; I do not account the evil and painful character of existence a reproach to it, but hope rather that it will one day be more evil and painful than hitherto..." (Nietzsche)

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    Re: Is it "weird" that we are evolved from African-like people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Madoc View Post
    but those common ancestors may had more like the "black" Cushitic peoples of the horn of Africa
    Is C-u-s-h-i-t-i-c a bad word? Did I miss something?

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