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    Re: European Hindus oppose German call for swastika ban

    I was talking about Germany's decision to try and ban the symbol...

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    Re: European Hindus oppose German call for swastika ban

    We keep going over the same old ground!!! what will they think of trying to pass next? they already want THAT constitution back - even though its been rejected!

    There is an old Saxon Bishop in the Cathedral in Winchester ( Old Saxon Capital in S England). He has several Swastikas on this collar - its a stone effigy. Will the EU insist they that they should be filed off? Perhaps they will send some German Policeman to do it!

    Vedic Rights Aryan Rights.

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    Re: AW: European Hindus oppose German call for swastika ban

    ""The swastika twisted again

    ""C BOOKER S Telegraph 21Jan07

    There has been much talk of the proposal by Brigitte Zypries, the justice minister of Germany - which currently holds the EU presidency – that the EU should act to ban any use of "Nazi insignia". Hindus across Europe, we are told by Timothy Garton-Ash, that great Europhile, in The Guardian, are protesting against this, on the grounds that "for them the swastika is an ancient symbol of peace".

    Someone might explain to those Hindus (not to mention certain commentators) that the point of the Nazi hakenkrueuz, the "hooked cross", was that it was the very opposite of the ancient Sanskrit sv'astika, symbolising "spiritual well-being". The Hindu original represents a clockwise revolution, like that of the sun, with its arms flowing behind. In the Teutonic version the arms are reversed forwards into cruel hooks. Even if Mrs Zypries gets her way, and Prince Harry is arrested for wearing Afrika Korps uniform at a party, her new law would in no way apply to the sv'astika, which is a different symbol altogether.

    The Hindus may be forgiven for not being familiar with some of the finer points of European history. But isn't it odd how some Europhiles are such "little Europeans" that they know so little about Asian culture?""

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    Is this correct - surely the Hindus used both forms? Politically , Booker will attack the EU with anything he can find! He is just made that way --so Frau Zypries - Watch out!

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    Re: European Hindus oppose German call for swastika ban

    Ok what about this one:

    One little Big Lie making the rounds in recent decades is the idea that Hitler and the National Socialists of Germany meanly exploited the ancient swastika symbol by "turning it backwards" to produce some sort of magical effect. The assertion goes something like this:

    The swastika was originally a wonderful, holy symbol for people all around the world. The swastika was usually turned to the right, sun-wise, to symbolize good luck. Then the Nazis came and exploited it, turning it backwards to symbolize hate and destruction as a magical means to world conquest. Ever since, the swastika has meant evil to people all around the world, regardless of direction, so now we have to get back at the Nazis by writing endless articles in New Age journals and websites, exposing them for what they really were.

    Note the use of the old fly-blown "Germans are trying to take over the world" ruse, which got a good start in WW I, and really went into full gear for the Second War to Kill White People. Further note the use of "Nazi" to mean any White person with a sense of hegemony and self-purpose for his race. The claim is that the Nazi way is anti-sun-wise and evil, and that the Nazis (esp. Hitler) knew this, implementing it to make themselves as nasty as possible. The problem is not whether sun-wise indicates good or bad luck, (it is definitely good) but rather which swastika direction is to be considered sun-wise. Read past that part too quickly, and you miss it. They make it sound so self-evident: "everybody knows that..." Their usually extensive historical footnotes tend to thin out markedly right around this point.

    These ideas are often accompanied by clever graphics such as the following, which I pinched from one such site:
    [All such images are used here per Fair Use, 17 U.S.C. §107, for the purpose of criticism, comment and scholarly research]


    deasil .................. withershins
    sun-wise ............. anti-sun-wise
    toward God ........... away from God
    lucky .................... unlucky
    good .................... evil
    right-hand (path) ..... left-hand (path)



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    http://www.jrbooksonline.com/HTML-do...s_Swastika.htm

    Pictures of Swastika's used in article.

    http://www.jrbooksonline.com/HTML-do...hics_Folio.htm
    http://www.jrbooksonline.com/HTML-do...tika_Suppl.htm

    Links are of course also available on the site(Which is logical).

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    Germany backs off Swastika

    Brussels (dpa) - Current European Union president Germany said that it was not planning to criminalize the display of Nazi insignia such as the swastika.

    The move comes after Hindu groups throughout Europe protested against reported plans for such a ban, arguing that the swastika had been part of their religious symbols for nearly 5,000 years before the Nazis appropriated it.
    http://www.expatica.com/actual/artic...story_id=35975

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    Re: European Hindus oppose German call for swastika ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Aistulf View Post
    I think rather the Hindus tarnished it, by having become Dravids that bastardized the true meaning of Hinduism.
    Hndus care for their use of Swastika, whether anybody else uses it or used it in history or not is not our concern. Hinduism is not Nazism, and it is a product of India. The Vedas and the developments thereof (Upanishads and Geeta), both, flourish only in India. The brahmins and hindus made sure that nothing that came to us was lost.

    Get your DNA checked to know what all strains you carry in your blood. Do you think Aryans had a 100% R1 (or whatever) strain, and that it dropped from the sky? Did it not develop out of something? Otherwise also, you may note that humans most probably came out of Africa and that European blood is said to be the closest to that of Africans (so value your brothers).

    Carl, as I might have mentioned before, Hindu Swastika is always right handed.
    Last edited by Aupmanyav; Thursday, February 1st, 2007 at 05:52 AM.

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