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    Re: What Belongs to Aryan Metaphysics?

    What ISKCON says in a christian milleu is hardly relevant, you said you have seen better translations of Geeta and I agree. GALVA seems to be another ISKCON attempt to woo gay christians. Gays also have the same right to hold religious views as any other people. There are nine avataras of Vishnu and the tenth comes after 427,000 years, there cannot be any more. Both 'many Gods' and 'one Brahman' are approved by Vedas, I agree to both. You are right, we recognize that many things are done under the guise of 'secular freedom'. RSS and its political wing, Bharatiya Janata Party work against that kind of misuse. What I meant was that we can be surgical but not cruel. What has to be done, has to be done.

    Airmanareiks, I have been raised in Aryan tradition and I am a hindu. I am not Nordic or German. I never claimed that Indian only are Aryans, there might be many in Central Asia and Iran who have forgotten their heritage; and there might be others in Europe also. I am not against non-hindus trying to understand hindu philosophy. At the moment we have democracy, and I believe nothing else can work as well. RigVeda, I believe, is pre-glacial; and has origins in Arctic Circle.

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    Re: What Belongs to Aryan Metaphysics?

    Quote Originally Posted by Airmanareiks View Post
    I already have. I am Odinist. But I am Ur Germanic or Aryan.
    Mixing with the South? Of course they split up.

    It rebuilding or completing the full Ur Aryan religion before they split up.

    I have rebuilt it to the extent that the Rig Edda and Law of Manus is greater then an previous aryan religion to date.

    Odin is the Ur Aryan All father who name changed with the expansion of nordics south.

    I am using Aryan as Nordic as in PIE or Ur aryan times of the first homeland. The first aryan was Kon Jarl, who was blond. The inherietor of Aryan religion from Rig Heimdall probably 10,000 years ago.

    Nordics were Greek Dorians who started philosophy. Nordic were Roman aristocractic caste descended from Romus/Remus which is Germanic Tuisto.

    So I am refering to the proto Aryans who were Nordic, descended from Jupitar/Zeus/Zio/Dyaus. Blond and white, living in the northern Aryan homeland, where the sun rarely shines.

    The time of my religion is about 10,000 BCE well before Vedism, before the divergence of Celts and Germans, Greeks, Arya, Romans, Thracians, Tocharians, etc........

    Its before civilization, thus more brutal and hard then the soft religions of pacifistic people, thus offense to modernity.
    No way. Odinism is a later religion. Before odinism Wodanaz divided his sovereign with Tiwaz, also called Tyr or Ziu and identified with Zeus.

    Read this book: Mitra-Varuna, by Georges Dumézil. It's very informative about the duality inside the first caste.

    Also read this book: Revolt Against the Modern World, by Julius Evola. There he explains about the doctrine of the four ages. Its very valuable information.

    Most of the odinists base themselves in the Edda, especially the Havamal. Some of them reject the Roman world entirely and are even hostile to it, no matter if the romans were aryans like them.

    And I personally dont consider the roman aristocrats "nordic", no matter if in the racial classifications they are termed nordic. The roman aristocracy is just what it is: roman.

    Damn, there are even people trying to germanize the persians, so that they look more nordic. The persians formed a great civilization in the past, and no, no and no, they werent nordish! And if we let this people go more far, theyll start saying that the chinese were nordic...

    You are confusing Indo European Paganism with Odinism. IE Paganism is much more spiritual and symbolic than its later manifestations. These later forms are more based in myths, because was the only way to pass the knowledge of the high castes to the people. And there are diferent versions of myths. Some years ago I loosed myself in comparative mythology, today I prefer to look at the numen first.

    But if you prefer to put Wotan as Uranos, go ahead, but call it something different, perhaps Uranic Germanism, because in common sense odinism is based on the Eddas. There are some odinists who see Odin as a historic figure too, that lived at some age in the past. This is the same method apllied by christians to their Christ, to historicize the myth, perhaps to get a broader audience.

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    Re: What Belongs to Aryan Metaphysics?

    Well Mr Panzerfaust! - your reading of history sounds to me a lot more accurate ! But you are not a wild eyed Priest, I surmise .... with a highly inventive imagination. Otherwise you too might enter into these other , more rarified notions. But I myself don't care to mess up too much the olden texts.... nor to mix them up with the faiths of other people - even if they were once perhaps 'Aryan' of origin. The North should protect the northern soul by thinking North! - if one wanders too far ( air-wise) , one is in danger of forgetting the things that matter......... .

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    Re: What Belongs to Aryan Metaphysics?

    I am Aryan or an Aryanist. Odinisn, Druidism, Arya Dharma, Greek, Roman, Thracian, etc........are all part of Aryanism.

    You thought you were teaching me, but I have already read these books years ago and have since surpassed their scholarship which metaphysical truth. Aryanism is a religion. That is, I see the truth or ontology behind the "myths". Not all of the writers of myths and Aryan priests/philosophers were equal in their ontological acumen. If you know how to read the Myths you see the truth. This is like knowing how to read the Runes. Not everyone knows how to read the Runes. Nor are all the individual myths created equal.

    Dumezil, in Mitra Varuna equates Aryan sovereignty to Tuisto or the Dual Aspects which he finds a duality of Being (which is actual Dyaus Pitar which Dumezil misses). One is the magician, the other is the law/judge. My view completes Dumezils view:

    Neomena - Odin/Mind
    Phenomena - Tyr/Irminsul/Logos/Rede/Rita/Karma/Justice

    I call Mind/Odin in matter: ORMUL, or sentient matter which is a material form of ORLOG. Thus thjod derived from God who are Wods (possessed) with Huginn/Munnin and have innate rede/logos which is Matter that is connected to the All Vater (avatars). Its genetic because it is material and the CORRECT right/rede combination of chemicals (DNA) alters the correct combination of IDEAS. Both chemicals and ideals are RUNES given to you by ODIN/MIND/GOD.

    The Unity of Aryan God is Dyaus Pitar which means God Father (Ju-Pitar, Zeus, Germanic Zio fader). The true nature of God as Neomena is Wods which is Mind.

    I hope this clears Dumezil up!

    Mind to Matter

    Odin Mind - (Jarls/Nobles/Blonds) Diar/Druid
    Willi Will Thorn - (Carls/Red) - Warriors
    Ve Holy/Frey/Lord - Ingevones - (Thralls/Black) Ing Ve Frey - Fecundity

    The materialistic aspect of God, God in phenomenal form is Aryaman, the Nordics/Jarls who odin taught the runes, war and gave odal lands to.
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    Re: What Belongs to Aryan Metaphysics?

    I was not teaching you, just clearing the definitions.

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