Classifications by Society for Nordish Physical Anthropology

[Abby Normal]

Some of the people used as examples on their website don't really seem to fit the description of their race except for location.

This Swedish woman was classified as a Hallstatt Nordic, yet she does not seem to have a long, narrow face.

Marilyn Monroe does not seem to fit the description of female Borrebys that I have heard before, yet she is of Danish descent.

I guess what I'm getting at is this: Is geographical location more of a deciding factor in racial classification than some physical traits?

(I could imagine how someone could be genetically similar, but different-looking, than the people who have historically lived near them. Similarly, people who live further away from each other and look like each would not necessarily be genetically close.) Is this about right?

[RusViking]

This genetic thing is very complicated and classification can be very difficult.

[nordic_canadian_male]

the most important aspect of a nordic is a long-head, the facial index is secondary, a nordic may have a moderate face.

[RusViking]

the most important aspect of a nordic is a long-head, the facial index is secondary, a nordic may have a moderate face.

I would agree, first the long head. But not necessarily a dolicocephalic cranium, yes? I would rate eye color as important but skin pigmentation and hair color less so...as both can vary greatly, even to the dark brown in eye color, and even perhaps skin color. I do not put great importance on hair color. I would rate tallness and leanness very important however in both male and female. I am talking nordish physiology and not the archetype nordic.

[executiona9]

stature is not a good indicator of (sub) race

For example :

In the races of Europe (1939) Coon wrote that the Montenegrins of South-East Europe were the tallest Europeans.
Coon also wrote in 1939 that the irish and british both were taller than the Dutch

But times have changed. Now in 2004 the Dutch are the tallest people in the world.

Stature changes from generation to generation due to food patterns and medical healthcare.

[Abby Normal]

So basically these Nordish anthropology guys are morons?

[RusViking]

stature is not a good indicator of (sub) race

For example :

In the races of Europe (1939) Coon wrote that the Montenegrins of South-East Europe were the tallest Europeans.
Coon also wrote in 1939 that the irish and british both were taller than the Dutch

But times have changed. Now in 2004 the Dutch are the tallest people in the world.

Stature changes from generation to generation due to food patterns and medical healthcare.

Well...I think, notwithstanding genetic potential as influenced by environment, I might still look for that tallness and leanness...the classic teutonic...coupled with the long head as good indicators of nordish physiology. But then, sigh, what do I know.

[executiona9]

I mean for example :

the dinaric type (most yugoslavians) is known to be very tall

Poles and Russians are not that tall, they are usually of moderate stature

But saying Yugoslavians are more nordic than Poles/Russians doesnt make sense

[Awar]

BTW. That thing 'most Yugoslavians are Dinaric' is just a myth, sadly, it caught-on thanks to prejudices.

[RusViking]

I mean for example :

the dinaric type (most yugoslavians) is known to be very tall

Poles and Russians are not that tall, they are usually of moderate stature

But saying Yugoslavians are more nordic than Poles/Russians doesnt make sense

The Slavs are not long-headed although they can be tall.