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    Question Are the Irish and Celts Descendants of the Phoenicians??

    http://www.ldolphin.org/cooper/ch8.html

    http://phoenicia.org/celts.html

    Are the irish and celts decendants of the Phoenicians??

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    Re: Is This True?????

    From wikipedia;
    "Recent DNA (Y chromosome) studies conducted by the National Geographic Magazine on the bones of ancient Phoenicians and living people from Lebanon and elsewhere in the Mediterranean have shown that the modern peoples carry the same ancient Phoenician genetic material."
    It would appear Phoenicians are today the Lebanese.
    Last edited by Nagelfar; Monday, January 15th, 2007 at 06:26 AM.

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    Re: Is This True?????

    No.

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    Thomas Jefferson could of had Phoenecian blood!!
    http://phoenicia.org/jefferson.html

    Can anyone tell me is this information true
    Last edited by Oswiu; Tuesday, January 16th, 2007 at 12:12 AM.

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    Re: Is This True?

    I bet Oswiu will have an opinion on this subject.

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    Re: Is This True?

    Well it seems to be working "nicely". They brought in multiculturalism and degraded our history precisely to make us lose our identities. It seems to be working too!

    Don't the people on the Isles know who they are anymore? This study showed the English are related to the Spanish fisherman, this one shows that they are Britons that were there before the Angles and Saxons came, this one shows that they are a mixture of the Angles and Saxons. Another one shows that the celts aren't who they think they were/are and it just keeps on coming.

    Are they actually trying to confuse the people over there? I think so and it seems to be working. When they're done you'll have no idea who you are anymore.

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    Re: Is This True?

    Quote Originally Posted by Madoc View Post
    I bet Oswiu will have an opinion on this subject.
    Hehe, yes. I thanked Dr. Wolff's post!

    The Carthaginians did get as far as Britain, certainly, but any genetic trace of this must be ridiculously negligible if not nonexistant.

    That link to Jefferson was full of all sorts of wishful thinking nonsense. It claims our Karl der Grosse/Charlemagne, for God's sake!

    It doesn't go far enough into how they ascertained Jefferson's Y haplotype anyway. Did they test all his supposed male line descendants?

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    Re: Is This True?

    It seems that they also had very strong connection with the greeks and italians and also the people on the island of malta. Its is almost like it sure be considered part of europe.

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    Re: Is This True?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sumosim View Post
    It seems that they also had very strong connection with the greeks and italians and also the people on the island of malta. Its is almost like it sure be considered part of europe.
    Why, are you one of them?

    They came, they saw, sometimes they even conquered, but then Roma came along and sorted em out good and proper!

    Of course, their initial ethnogenesis may owe a fair bit to North Mediterranean Sea Peoples and Anatolians + Semites, so it's not as if we're talking about Orientalids here, but history doesn't really allow for them to claim any European status.



    Despite the worrying likelihood that they may have coined the name Europa in the first place!
    A minority, however, suggest this Greek
    popular etymology is really based on a Semitic word such as the Akkadian erebu meaning "sunset"[2] (see also Erebus). From the Middle Eastern vantagepoint, the sun does set over Europe, the lands to the west. Likewise, Asia is sometimes thought to have derived from a Semitic word such as the Akkadian asu, meaning "sunrise",[3] and is the land to the east from a Middle Eastern perspective.

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    Re: Is This True?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oswiu View Post
    It doesn't go far enough into how they ascertained Jefferson's Y haplotype anyway. Did they test all his supposed male line descendants?
    They tested him, himself, it seems; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_K_%28Y-DNA%29

    It was due to the Sally Hemings controversy.

    Very odd that he would be K2; it's greatest frequency is among Ethiopians and Iraqis today.

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