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    "Young Jews don't identify with their ethnic group"

    Quote Originally Posted by Daphna Berman
    The connection of young American Jews to the Jewish people is progressively declining because they are made to feel that identifying with their ethnic group is "not kosher," a leading expert on American Jewish history said this week.

    "On their university campuses, identifying with Jews as a people, which is distinct from their identifying with Judaism, is not considered kosher," said Prof. Jack Wertheimer, who also serves as provost of the Jewish Theological Center in New York. "Only people of color are allowed to identify with their fellow ethnics. White Americans are not allowed to participate in that kind of behavior."

    Speaking at a conference at Hebrew University this week, Wertheimer said Jews "are gravitating toward universalism because of their discomfort with parochialism." And Jewish organizations have become increasingly complicit in the process, he pointed out, citing the change of the United Jewish Communities (UJC) slogan, which has gradually evolved from "We Are One" to "Live Generously" - their new motto that does not specify the target for philanthropists' generosity.

    "Jewish organizations, instead of trying to promote the idea of taking care of the Jewish people, have soft-pedaled this idea, perhaps because they know their market and they know what will sell," he said.

    Wertheimer also lamented attempts to universalize Judaism, so that values like tikkun olam [repairing the world] and kol yisrael arevim zeh la'zeh [all of Israel is responsible for one another] no longer focus on the Jewish community. Lobbying for the victims of Darfur or cleaning American rivers, he said, have taken precedence over sustaining Jewish communal institutions because there is a "diminution in concern" for fellow Jews.

    Wertheimer was speaking at a session on Jewish identity and multiculturalism, part of a three-day conference at the Hebrew University in honor of Prof. Gideon Shimoni, who recently retired from the university's Avraham Harman Institute of Contemporary Jewry.

    At the same session, Prof. Michael Brown of York University in Toronto spoke about the Canadian Jewish community and the impact of multiculturalism, which became official government policy in 1971 and has since weakened the sense of group loyalty among some of the country's Jews.

    "It is possible," Brown said, "that at the end of the day, multiculturalism will have served to undermine the autonomy and uniqueness of the Jewish group in Canada."
    Haaretz

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    Yea, yea, yea. I went to a college which was 25% Jewish and I have head this said many times by people claiming it was great and those saying how awful it is.

    Young Jews are not old Jews, at least in the Western USA. Young Jews are much less "Jewish". In fact, they are rarely religious nor do they seem to have strong ethnic ties to their Jewish community as a whole. You would think being Jewish is like being a Methodist, just another religious group which was pretty much inoffensive. But then they get older. As Jews get older they change. Old Jews are rabbidly Jewish, much more so in religion and especially so in terms of ethnic commitment. These changes are all part of being Jewish. This is why nobody should ever listen to young Jews saying they are just like everybody else---it doesn't last-------AND this is the reason that Jews should be encouraged to have fewer children (or none at all).

    Steven Spielberg is a great example of which you may be familiar. So are older Hollywood types, Kirk Douglas, and Paul Newman. So was Simon Wiesenthal. Rich business Jews often donate money to Jewish causes in their old age. Madeline Albright, former UN embassador from the USA, "discovered" she was Jewish in her late 60s.

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    Re: "Young Jews don't identify with their ethnic group"

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Solar Wolff View Post
    Yea, yea, yea. I went to a college which was 25% Jewish and I have head this said many times by people claiming it was great and those saying how awful it is.

    Young Jews are not old Jews, at least in the Western USA. Young Jews are much less "Jewish". In fact, they are rarely religious nor do they seem to have strong ethnic ties to their Jewish community as a whole. You would think being Jewish is like being a Methodist, just another religious group which was pretty much inoffensive. But then they get older. As Jews get older they change. Old Jews are rabbidly Jewish, much more so in religion and especially so in terms of ethnic commitment. These changes are all part of being Jewish. This is why nobody should ever listen to young Jews saying they are just like everybody else---it doesn't last-------AND this is the reason that Jews should be encouraged to have fewer children (or none at all).

    Steven Spielberg is a great example of which you may be familiar. So are older Hollywood types, Kirk Douglas, and Paul Newman. So was Simon Wiesenthal. Rich business Jews often donate money to Jewish causes in their old age. Madeline Albright, former UN embassador from the USA, "discovered" she was Jewish in her late 60s.
    Jews are natural liberals. They go through a phase of 'rebelling' against conservative jewishness. Then their greed and mammon worship of money kicks in. Their talmudic genes then make them manipulate, lie and connive with the rest of them. They cannot be trusted.

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    Re: "Young Jews don't identify with their ethnic group"

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Solar Wolff View Post
    Young Jews are not old Jews, at least in the Western USA. Young Jews are much less "Jewish". In fact, they are rarely religious nor do they seem to have strong ethnic ties to their Jewish community as a whole.
    If they believe in the holocaust then they are religious and have a strong tie with the rest of the cockroaches they call "My fellow jew".

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    Sv: Re: "Young Jews don't identify with their ethnic group"

    Quote Originally Posted by Erzherzog_Bernd View Post
    If they believe in the holocaust then they are religious and have a strong tie with the rest of the cockroaches they call "My fellow jew".
    I guess I'm a religious jew then, too?

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    Re: Sv: Re: "Young Jews don't identify with their ethnic group"

    Quote Originally Posted by Enlil View Post
    I guess I'm a religious jew then, too?
    Ugh, I'm so sorry to hear

    Bagel?

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    Sammy Frank, the father of former Namibian High Court Judge Theo Frank, had been an atheist Jew for much of his life. He had been married to the Afrikaans DTA-politician with the curious name Anna Frank, who had enjoyed considerable support among the local German constituency. After Mrs Frank died of cancer Sammy Frank went to Cape Town in South Africa to live in an Jewish Old Age Home, where he became a religious Jew again.

    In our local community there has been a tendency among the few remaining nominal Jews to become charismatic Judaeo-Christians (“Jews for Jesus”).


    Rich business Jews often donate money to Jewish causes in their old age. Madeline Albright, former UN embassador from the USA, "discovered" she was Jewish in her late 60s.
    Madeleine Albright nèe Körbel/Korbel/Korbelová must have known all her life long that she was Jewish, because there would have been no other reason why her family fled from Czechoslovakia in 1939.

    She had claimed previously that her father had to flee hastily with his family from the new communist rulers of the recently re-established Czechoslovakia in 1948. It is strange however that this has not prevented the family from taking `all their belongings´, including paintings and one or two knight’s armours among other items that her father had stolen from an expelled family of Sudenten-Germans (as reported by the German news magazine “Der Spiegel” in 1998 or 1999).

    The identity of the robber only flew up a few years ago when the former Czech servant of the Sudeten-German family now living in Vienna identified the family of the US-Secretary of State as the one who had stolen the possessions. The items had also been seen and drawn secretly in Albright’s residence by a journalist who was writing a biography about her. Naturally the Czech Jewess denied all knowledge of the theft of the abovementioned art treasures and referred the matter to the legal attention of her brother.

    Unfortunately I have got no more up-to-date information on the matter, but this case shows us how Jews claim to have rediscovered late in their lives that they are of Jewish descent and that their family member had been murdered in Auschwitz (Albright claims to have found out in 1996 that her grandparents had been murdered in Auschwitz). Jews always claim to have lost somebody in one of those wretched camps even the when their loved ones had been murdered by Poles, Czechs, Ukrainians etc.

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    Sv: Re: "Young Jews don't identify with their ethnic group"

    Seriously, I think the whole "group evolutionary" thinking about jews at least is a theory worth discussing, but ramblings about this and this famous jew and this guy in high school bla bla bla, are just as (un)interesting as any anecdotal stories I could tell about young and old jews I've met. I'd say scientific studies asking representatives of an ethnic group are far more interesting.

    The discussion I'd like to spark with this thread around the theory that multiculturalism is a jewish idea. If this was the case, then obviously the conspirators have failed quite vastly. Both this study, but also about jews in Britain and all over Europe shows that jews intermarry with their kids not identifying as jewish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Euhesperides View Post
    Sammy Frank, the father of former Namibian High Court Judge Theo Frank, had been an atheist Jew for much of his life. He had been married to the Afrikaans DTA-politician with the curious name Anna Frank, who had enjoyed considerable support among the local German constituency. After Mrs Frank died of cancer Sammy Frank went to Cape Town in South Africa to live in an Jewish Old Age Home, where he became a religious Jew again.

    In our local community there has been a tendency among the few remaining nominal Jews to become charismatic Judaeo-Christians (“Jews for Jesus”).




    Madeleine Albright nèe Körbel/Korbel/Korbelová must have known all her life long that she was Jewish, because there would have been no other reason why her family fled from Czechoslovakia in 1939.

    She had claimed previously that her father had to flee hastily with his family from the new communist rulers of the recently re-established Czechoslovakia in 1948. It is strange however that this has not prevented the family from taking `all their belongings´, including paintings and one or two knight’s armours among other items that her father had stolen from an expelled family of Sudenten-Germans (as reported by the German news magazine “Der Spiegel” in 1998 or 1999).

    The identity of the robber only flew up a few years ago when the former Czech servant of the Sudeten-German family now living in Vienna identified the family of the US-Secretary of State as the one who had stolen the possessions. The items had also been seen and drawn secretly in Albright’s residence by a journalist who was writing a biography about her. Naturally the Czech Jewess denied all knowledge of the theft of the abovementioned art treasures and referred the matter to the legal attention of her brother.

    Unfortunately I have got no more up-to-date information on the matter, but this case shows us how Jews claim to have rediscovered late in their lives that they are of Jewish descent and that their family member had been murdered in Auschwitz (Albright claims to have found out in 1996 that her grandparents had been murdered in Auschwitz). Jews always claim to have lost somebody in one of those wretched camps even the when their loved ones had been murdered by Poles, Czechs, Ukrainians etc.

    So she is a liar, thief, fraudster and holocaust fraud promoter. Typical behaviour from a jew.

    Quote Originally Posted by Enlil View Post
    Seriously, I think the whole "group evolutionary" thinking about jews at least is a theory worth discussing, but ramblings about this and this famous jew and this guy in high school bla bla bla, are just as (un)interesting as any anecdotal stories I could tell about young and old jews I've met. I'd say scientific studies asking representatives of an ethnic group are far more interesting.

    The discussion I'd like to spark with this thread around the theory that multiculturalism is a jewish idea. If this was the case, then obviously the conspirators have failed quite vastly. Both this study, but also about jews in Britain and all over Europe shows that jews intermarry with their kids not identifying as jewish.

    Dont you believe Jews swamp us with multicult? The Jew controls and manipulates everything we hear by trying to gain virtual monopilies on the media. Then he hammers us with multicult, yet they themselves dont practice what they preach.


    How about this:

    Near Total Zionist Jewish
    Control Of The British Media
    Commentary - Analysis
    By Thomas Sparks
    As of May, 2002 (edited)
    6-26-3

    Abstract

    The Zionist Jews have an almost total grip on the media in Britain, systematically, constantly and intensely feeding their propaganda and example to almost everyone in Britain, which is nothing new. With this media, they are uniformly, deliberately, systematically, constantly and intensely promoting both the transformation and permanent destruction of Britain into a multiracial, "multicultural" state, and also the interests of the so-called "state of Israel", against the wishes and interests of the native British people. All of the following powerful controllers/owners are Jews:

    BBC television under Alan Yentob broadcasts into almost every home all day, every day. Likewise ITV, which is controlled by Carlton Communications plc under Michael Green and by Granada plc under Steve Morrison, each of which broadcasts to regions of 26 million, half of the population, or more, all day, every day. Daytime television across the ITV network, which broadcasts to the whole of Britain, every day, is mainly provided by Anglia Television under Graham Creelman, while the rest of the time it is controlled by the regions controlled by Carlton Communications plc and Granadaplc. Likewise ITN, which provides the news for the ITV network every day, is controlled by Michael Green and its programmes are broadcast to the whole of Britain, while Carlton and Granada jointly own the London News Network. Further, BSkyB controlled by Rupert Murdoch broadcasts to over 10 million subscribers and their families every day.

    Meanwhile, the main two production studios in Britain, and the largest in Europe, are controlled by Pinewood-Shepperton Limited, controlled by Michael Grade.

    The situation is similar in radio, with all BBC radio stations controlled by Jenny Abramsky, alone accounting for 49% of all radio listening in Britain, every day. Further, in total, over 85 million copies of Jewish-controlled newspapers are sold in Britain every week, controlled by Richard Desmond, Rupert Murdoch, Guy Zitter, the openly Shabbat Goy and rabidly Zionist Conrad Black and Mrs Black (Barbara Amiel.)


    We shall first consider their control of television and of radio, and then of the press; finally we shall give a summary of our findings. All data contained in the study are accurate as of May 2002.


    http://www.rense.com/general38/brits.htm

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    Sv: Re: "Young Jews don't identify with their ethnic group"

    Quote Originally Posted by Enlil View Post
    The discussion I'd like to spark with this thread around the theory that multiculturalism is a jewish idea. If this was the case, then obviously the conspirators have failed quite vastly.
    What do you mean by "failed"? Take a look around you.

    Both this study, but also about jews in Britain and all over Europe shows that jews intermarry with their kids not identifying as jewish.
    When discussing intermarriage rates among Jews, you have to keep in mind that diasporic Jews in most cases constitute less than 1% of the total population. Surrounded by 99% non-Jews, it would be quite extraordinary if no Jews at all married non-Jews, and vice versa. However, it is still a fact that most Jews have a Jewish identity and prefer to marry and have children with their fellow tribesmen.

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