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    This is a very interesting book...in it we may find some small shard of guidance to what is needed...

    pages 75-76:

    ...Meanwhile the conqueror himself (Genghis Khan), taking with him his younger son Tuli and some of his grandsons, proceeded to deserve, in Khoragan and Afghanistan, that reputation of irresistable destructiveness that the terror of crushed people has attached to his name for all times.

    Any town that made even a show of resistance was stormed or tricked into surrender and leveled to the ground, as Urganj had been, while its people, with the exception of the useful artisans and of the young and desirable women, were systematically killed. This mass slaughter evidently aimed at paralyzing all will to resist, all possibility of resistance. It was practical and methodical, like everything the Mongols did at Genghis Khan's orders, and it was carried out without evidence of sadistic torment. The Mongols, says Harold Lamb, "led out the people of walled towns, examining them carefully and ordering the skilled workers, who would be useful, to move apart. Then the soldiers went through the ranks of helpless human beings, killing methodically with their swords and hand axes--as harvestors would go through a field of standing wheat. They took the wailing women by the hair, bending forward their heads, to sever the spine more easily. They slaughtered with blows on the head men who resisted weakly."

    It is said that about nine million people were thus put to the sword in and round the place where had once stood the prosperous city of Merv. Fear caused, no doubt, the contemporary Muslim chroniclers to exaggerate the number of the dead. Genghis Khan appeared to them as "the scourge of Allah" and wherever his army passed it was like the end of the world--the end, at least, of that world that they knew. Yet even if the figures were to be brought down to their half, still they would suggest a magnitude of slaughter unprecedented in history.

    It is noticable that material signs of power, wealth, or culture--strong walls, works of irrigation, libraries--for which the conquerors had no use, were no more respected than human life; that the destruction was as complete and as impartial as it could possibly be when wrought by man's imperfect weapons under the guidance of man's will; as similar as it could possibly be to the total, indiscriminate destruction wrought by ever-changing Nature through her storms, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions, or simply through all-devouring Time, the very principle of change.
    Now Genghis Khan worked for no one and nothing but himself, and his personal family. This makes his killings purely "selfish"..that is, he is not killing for the sake of Nature, but rather for Khan.

    Our people will need to have a similar perspective--we will need the destructive will of all Creation, oriented to the preservation of the White people--in order to survive the current onslaught, of which we are experiencing only the first tremors...

    There will be no surrender, no negotiation--by OUR choice, not by their pleadings of mercy, humanity, or vengeance.


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    Devi has an interesting way of putting things. But the notion 'be hard' or 'be hard for cause X' seems unlikely to take root. Aryans, in particular, are prone to mushy conclusion. Just look at Locke 'natural' rights. Fanciful extensions of a presumed natural man.

    In fact, a human - living at the time of sample - has precisely three 'natural rights' (more properly imperatives) by virtue of existence. They are the imperative of existence, of thought and of action. There are no others. Free man, slave, prisoner or paraplegic all possess them. But even these can be taken by the stroke of a sword as Khan so aptly proves.

    Now, the liberal laws of the Visigoths, the multicultural king Cyrus, the Declaration of Independence, Geneva Conventions and Helsinki Accords all attest to a deeply rooted "belief" in "rights" and wrongs. Devi and Nietzsche alike would point out that these too are mere convention and invention. So, what you're really approaching, perhaps, is a "purposeful leadership mentality" not likely to become standard fare.

    For all creators are hard. And it must seem blessedness to you to impress your hand on millennia as on bronze-harder than bronze, nobler than bronze. Only the noblest is altogether hard.
    This new table, O my bothers, I place over you: become hard!

    Frederick Nietzsche
    Thus Spake Zarathustra, 3:29

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    Then we must develop a Khan-like hardness. Without it, we will perish.

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    I'd not argue with that...except to add...


    hard with purpose.

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    Precisely, our consciousness must embed a purpose at its core, a purpose which is in coherence with our spirits and essential character and deserved future.

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    Aryans must develop a harshness that must serve to eliminate the obstacles in our struggle for the Liberation of our Lands and the creation Aryan States. We must not lower ourselves to the emotions of pity and compassion towards those that stand in our way, we must carry forward a planned, methodical, and systematical attack to all obstacles to clear the way for the Aryan Resurgence.

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    The trouble is that there are so many ideas, so many traditions, and there is so much of difference in ways and instincts, if we are to look at Aryans. There are advanced philosophies, which seem too absorbing and they are Aryan, but they lack the rigour, or appear so ineffective/unwilling/unyielding in containing the damage which has wrecked us, which we require to make a survival possible.

    Does the survival which is to be sustained, has to be within the modern society, with its technology?

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    Post Diasporic separatism...

    Interesting question, Rahul.

    There are many holding out for the grand revolution that will reverse and repair everything in a moment. But I don't believe modern politics will allow for such a thing in the West.

    But there's nothing to seriously impede smaller groups from forming their own cloistered community. The lessons of diasporic groups such as the Amish, Parsi and even the Jews shows this is clearly possible. It would be nice if such groups in various nations were ideologically linked rather than separate cults. This rather suggests a common view of religion, historiography and, naturally, race.

    Speaking as an American about Americans, I'd say disconnecting from materialism, urban living and media is a must. The Amish probably form the best model for Americans.

    This is not to say that all technology should be abandoned. Indeed, the Amish don't believe in 'bad technologies' but refuse techologies which are 'bad for community.' There's also alot variation between Amish communities in what is permissable and what is not. Certainly, science would be taught to the fullest in an Aryan community. The balance of technology should be aimed at preservation of community, enabling income generation and defense. Other 'things', like television, are clearly invasive.

    Diasporic separatism may sound defeatist, but it has the potential for forming core groups from which an Aryan ethos might expand. It also avoids the politicization of ethnicity.

    Remember the humble and fractious beginnings of Xianity? Perhaps, instead of starting big with the Grand Revolution, we should start small...with community.

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    Well-answered in the question about technology. Because, conscioulsy speaking, without the aid of the technology, which was a creation of Aryans themselves, the non-Ayrans will not hesitate in using that which is in their hands to suppress with a genocidal intent, the Aryans. This has happened many times. The annihiliation of the Kalasha tribe in North Eastern pakistan, at the hands of the moslems and arabs, is too strong an indicator of the opposition and probable dangers which Aryan communities might face.

    The decay is even more obvious when you say the greater Aryan populace being so ignorant and uncaring about the reality, in denial. And the apparent danger of them, either ignoring or joining in the war against any Aryan resurgence, must be taken into account. After all, I have seen more Germans, who have all the foolish arguments about the holohoax and their rants against national socialism, than the jews, who might be laughing at all of us, after creating such a huge lie/deception.

    I have argued with "non-volkish" Indo-Europeanists that we cannot afford to arrest our doubts, about the jews at least, and set them aside when we talk of our ancient traditions and work to restore them.

    And here, I am faced witha probable arrest anytime, because I uttered something about what I see as the Bharat and its geographical boundary. And I have annoyed enough Israelis who have been coming here and showing interest in the "Indian spiritualism". It is not a comfortable situation in India either. Let alone a resurgence, even a survival in a community is proving to be a painful challenge, thanks to all the interference of the Jews and their slaves in the "Hindutva/liberal/secular/moslem" combine.

    Technology, which defends us must be preserved. But has anyone ever wondered how lethal some weapons are today, that you can wipe out entire regions with a single strike, and there are those who are not unwilling to use them, to further their own creed, and kill "evil"?
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    Apart from a harshness of attitude and character needed to be developed by the Aryan for the coming struggle, what other features should the Aryan develop in order to fight his struggle?

    Also the creation of small Aryan Communities sounds interesting, but how could these Communities survive if the National States and their anti-Aryan Ideals do not allow such Communities to exclude non-Aryans from their ranks, in other words to establish a Community we need the Individuals, the Resources, and the Land, how will these be gathered and safeguarded?

    I am more in favour of a Political and Ideological Revolution guided by National Socialist thoughts and Ideals, that way we can attack the anti-Aryan Ideals and their promoters and instate ourselves as the leaders of our Aryan Societies. This is indeed a harder struggle, but given the current wave of non-Aryans and the open-mindedness of our generation (I am 20) Aryans around Europe and elsewhere can hope to gather the forces required for the struggle ahead. There will not be a sudden radical change of thought for sure, in fact our goals could not be reached in our lifetime, yet our lifetime could be the struggling period for our Race to safeguard the future for our Children and future generations. The first steps are the bridging of the gaps between Racially-Conscious Aryans over the globe, Aryan Dawn was initiated for this matter, our membership grows over time, what I would like to see is some involvement. Through Socialising and Communication we can start to create Political Movements in our respective Nations something which Europe necessitates incredibly. The current Far-Right Movements are not as Radical as an Aryan Movement based on National Socialism would be, we would not content ourselves with regulating or halting immigration to halt any future damage to our interests in our homelands, we are in favour of the the deportation of all non-Europeans from Europe, and that is the first step to establish an Aryan Homeland in Europe.

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