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  • 1/2 non-european europid

    12 29.27%
  • 1/4 non-european europid

    12 29.27%
  • 1/4 asiatic

    5 12.20%
  • 1/8 asiatic

    13 31.71%
  • 1/8 amerind

    12 29.27%
  • 1/16 amerind

    13 31.71%
  • 1/16 negroid

    6 14.63%
  • 1/32 negroid

    11 26.83%
  • They will never could pass, they will be remove or Europe will die

    15 36.59%
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Thread: How Much Non-Europid Blood Could Pass?

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    How Much Non-Europid Blood Could Pass?

    The immigration in Europe, USA, and other countries mostly europids, would be that in 50-100 years, most of these countries be mixed in some degree, is the sad true, but how much of these non-europid blood, could somebody carry and not show it, these are my examples

    Prince Nicolai, is 1/4 asian (chinese)



    Almendra Gomelsky 1/8 amerindian



    Soledad O´brien´s daughter 1/16 black




    Not all the non-europids are the same and as an example the negroid is the more dominant, What do you think??

    Please is you know about more examples please post it
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    Re: How much of non-europid blood could pass??

    There's no hard and fast rule for this, of course. It depends on the type of admixture, and the particular constellation of traits in the person in question. I do think 1/32 of virtually anything is irrelevant.

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    Re: How much of non-europid blood could pass??

    for my, if any person have any negrid/mongolid/semitic ancestry that person will always for me strange, somehow non-europid

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    Re: How much of non-europid blood could pass??

    IMHO, non-European Europid admix is probably the only thing that could usually pass...

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    Re: How much of non-europid blood could pass??

    It would depend on the non-Europid. East Asian & Amerindian types are not so dominate when mixed with Europid compared to Negro. I've seen Eurasians in Hawaii who appeared White. And individuals of Europid/Amerindian ancestry can also appear White. But if you have a population of people that look White but most persons have a substantial amount of non-Europid ancestry, there is the chance that two persons who appear White/Europid could have a child who's non-Europid ancestry would be noticeable. I supposed eventually there would developed a stablized blending of the races but the new hybrid type would be different from original Europid type.

    I do think 1/32 of anything is irrelevant.
    I would go along with that as far as Asians & Amerindians are concerned. 1/32 is one non-Europid ancestor 5 generations ago. But for Negroes at most 1/128 (less than 1%) or one ancestor 7 generations ago.

    Of course zero non-Europid ancestry would be preferable. I think there will still be a sizable unmixed population of Europids in the future , even if the worst happens and there is no Europid-majority nation left in the world. The internet will make is easy for racially-conscious persons to check on the pedigrees of perspective mates & DNA testing should evolve so that blood tests can reveal a persons actual race & not some admixture accuring thousands of years ago showing common ancestry with persons who evolved into non-Europids.

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    Re: How much of non-europid blood could pass??

    According to Cavalli-Sforza, genetic distance between African blacks and European Caucasians is three to four more important than that between the latter and East Asians. As a consequence, it will need three to four more generations to dissolve black admixture than for Asiatic or Amerind admixture. North African mediterraneans have experienced at their own expense the price for such an admixture. They account for two to four percent of sub-Saharan blood, but that is sufficient to make a large part of them fall outside what most white people assume to be white.

    Among black Africans themselves, it seems that there is an even greater variation. The most negroids seem to me to be the pigmies.
    A pigmy that would mix with a Caucasian would produce a Congoid
    A Congoid that would go with a Caucasian would give birth to a Sudanid or to a Guineid
    A Sudanid and a Caucasian would have an Ethiopid
    An Ethiopid and a Caucasian would obtain a southern Yemenite, who himself crossed with another Caucasian would engender a North African.

    Note also that an Ethiopid and an Asian would get a melano-indian
    That Melano Indian with a Caucasian would give a northern Indian.

    It seems that a negroid-asiatic admixture tend to neutralise the negroid phenotype, at least as concerns the form of the hear, of the lips and of the eyes. Madagascan black-malaisians as well as Brazilian black-amerindian mestissos show the way racial admixtures should preferably go before trading with whites.
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    Re: How much of non-europid blood could pass??

    IMHO, non-European Europid admix is probably the only thing that could usually pass...
    Well in fact many pure non-european europids could pass without european mix take a look

    http://forums.skadi.net/classify_man-t85715.html

    According to Cavalli-Sforza, genetic distance between African blacks and European Caucasians is three to four more important than that between the latter and East Asians. As a consequence, it will need three to four more generations to dissolve black admixture than for Asiatic or Amerind admixture
    Are you sure that it means generations and not aritmetic relation, this boy is 1/4 chinese and the girl 1/16 negroid, the boy has 4 times more non-europid blood and both look europid, the mothers look mixed, so IMO that´s the threshold


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    Re: How much of non-europid blood could pass??

    My cousins´ grandmother is bolivian mestizo and they are europid (even lighter than me), so maybe 1/8 of amerind or asiatic could pass

    Of course zero non-Europid ancestry would be preferable
    Of course

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    Re: How much of non-europid blood could pass??

    Quote Originally Posted by catchmeifyoukhan View Post
    According to Cavalli-Sforza, genetic distance between African blacks and European Caucasians is three to four more important than that between the latter and East Asians. As a consequence, it will need three to four more generations to dissolve black admixture than for Asiatic or Amerind admixture. North African mediterraneans have experienced at their own expense the price for such an admixture. They account for two to four percent of sub-Saharan blood, but that is sufficient to make a large part of them fall outside what most white people assume to be white.

    Among black Africans themselves, it seems that there is an even greater variation. The most negroids seem to me to be the pigmies.
    A pigmy that would mix with a Caucasian would produce a Congoid
    A Congoid that would go with a Caucasian would give birth to a Sudanid or to a Guineid
    A Sudanid and a Caucasian would have an Ethiopid
    An Ethiopid and a Caucasian would obtain a southern Yemenite, who himself crossed with another Caucasian would engender a North African.

    Note also that an Ethiopid and an Asian would get a melano-indian
    That Melano Indian with a Caucasian would give a northern Indian.

    It seems that a negroid-asiatic admixture tend to neutralise the negroid phenotype, at least as concerns the form of the hear, of the lips and of the eyes. Madagascan black-malaisians as well as Brazilian black-amerindian mestissos show the way racial admixtures should preferably go before trading with whites.
    About 3 years ago there was a case in South Africa of a teenage boy by the name of Happy Sindane, who walked into a police station in South Africa, telling police that he was a White boy who had been kidnapped & raised by a Black family. It was a media sensation at the time in SA. DNA testing revealed that the boy's real name was Abbey Mzayiya, the son of a Xhosa woman named Rina Mzayiya & her German employer.

    Having seen the boy's picture I was puzzled how anyone could think this boy was White. He doesn't look like the typical Negro or Mulatto/White offspring you see in the States, but I don't think even the US Census Bureau would classify him as White. Obviously the Negro strain in South African Blacks is not as dominate as that in West Africans (ancestors of most US Negroes). But it made me wonder how the Afrikaners who use to run South Africa defined White.

    Happy/Abbey apparently didn't take the news he was actually coloured very well, he committed suicide by throwing himself in front of a bus.
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    Re: How much of non-europid blood could pass?

    I don't have problem with making the Pocahontas exception. George Randolph was partly Native American. (He was the Secretary of War of the Confederate States of America)

    I am not willing to make any compromises with the Negroes. We should follow the one-drop-rule in their case.

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