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    Illegal Immigration: Facts, Consequences, etc.

    Illegal aliens murder 12 Americans daily

    WASHINGTON – While the military "quagmire" in Iraq was said to tip the scales of power in the U.S. midterm elections, most Americans have no idea more of their fellow citizens – men, women and children – were murdered this year by illegal aliens than the combined death toll of U.S. troops in Iraq and Afghanistan since those military campaigns began.

    Though no federal statistics are kept on murders or any other crimes committed by illegal aliens, a number of groups have produced estimates based on data collected from prisons, news reports and independent research. http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52198

    Twelve Americans are murdered every day by illegal aliens, according to statistics released by Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa. If those numbers are correct, it translates to 4,380 Americans murdered annually by illegal aliens. That's 21,900 since Sept. 11, 2001.

    Total U.S. troop deaths in Iraq as of last week were reported at 2,863. Total U.S. troop deaths in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Uzbekistan during the five years of the Afghan campaign are currently at 289, according to the Department of Defense.


    http://worldnetdaily.com/news/articl...TICLE_ID=53103

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    Illegal Aliens Cause Massive Cuts For US Seniors

    Illegal Aliens Cause Massive Cuts For US Seniors

    ALL Illegals Must Be Rounded Up And Deported - NOW
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    I hope the following 14 reasons are forwarded over and over again until they are read so many times that the reader gets sick of reading them. I have included the URL's for verification of the following facts:

    1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year. http://tinyurl.com/zob77

    2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens. http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

    3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens. http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

    4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English! http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP.../01/ldt.0.html

    5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...01/ldt.01.html

    6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...01/ldt.01.html

    7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...01/ldt.01.html

    8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare and Social Services by the American taxpayers. http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html

    9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...01/ldt.01.html

    10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two-and-a-half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...12/ldt.01.html

    11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana, crossed into the U. S from the Southern border. Homeland Security Report. http://tinyurl.com/t9sht

    12. The National Policy Institute, "estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period." http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.o...eportation.pdf

    13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin. http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm

    14. "The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States". http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml

    Total cost is a whooping... $338.3 BILLION A YEAR!!!

    If this doesn't bother you then just delete the message, but on the other hand, if it does raise the hair on the back of your neck, then forward it.


    Snopes is provided for doubters:
    http://www.snopes.com/politics/immig...kofamerica.asp


    Social Security Change For 2008

    The United States Senate voted to extend Social Security Benefits to Illegal Aliens beginning in 2008.
    Now, the following are the senators who voted to give illegal aliens Social Security benefits. They are grouped by home state. If a state is not listed, there was no voting representative.
    Alaska: Stevens (R)
    Arizona : McCain (R)
    Arkansas : Lincoln (D) Pryor (D)
    California : Boxer (D) Feinstein (D)
    Colorado : Salazar (D)
    Connecticut : Dodd (D) Lieberman (D)
    Delaware : Biden (D) Carper (D)
    Florida : Martinez (R)
    Hawaii : Akaka (D) Inouye (D)
    Illinois : Durbin (D) Obama (D)
    Indiana : Bayh (D) Lugar (R)
    Iowa : Harkin (D)
    Kansas : Brownback (R)
    Louisiana : Landrieu (D)
    Maryland : Mikulski (D) Sarbanes (D)
    Massachusetts : Kennedy (D) Kerry (D)
    Montana : Baucus (D)
    Nebraska : Hagel (R)
    Nevada : Reid (D)
    New Jersey : Lautenberg (D) Menendez (D)
    New Mexico : Bingaman (D)
    New York : Clinton (D) Schumer (D)
    North Dakota : Dorgan (D)
    Ohio : DeWine (R) Voinovich(R)
    Oregon : Wyden (D)
    Pennsylvania : Specter (R)
    Rhode Island : Chafee (R) Reed (D)
    South Carolina : Graham (R)
    South Dakota : Johnson (D)
    Vermont : Jeffords (I) Leahy (D)
    Washington : Cantwell (D) Murray (D)
    West Virginia : Rockefeller (D), by Not Voting
    Wisconsin : Feingold (D) Kohl (D)

    SEND THIS TO ALL YOU KNOW. THE ENTIRE POPULATION OF THE UNITED STATES NEEDS TO KNOW THIS INFORMATION, UNLESS THEY DON'T MIND SHARING THEIR SOCIAL SECURITY WITH FOREIGN WORKERS who didn't pay in a dime.

    LET US SHOW OUR LEADERS IN WASHINGTON "PEOPLE POWER" AND THE POWER OF THE INTERNET. IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU ARE REPUBLICAN, DEMOCRAT OR INDEPENDENT! KEEP IT GOING!!!!

    SOCIAL SECURITY:
    (This is worth reading. It is short and to the point.)
    Perhaps we are asking the wrong questions during election years. Our Senators and Congresswomen do not pay into Social Security and, of course, they do not collect from it.
    You see, Social Security benefits were not suitable for persons of their rare elevation in society. They felt they should have a special plan for themselves So, many years ago they voted in their own benefit plan.
    In more recent years, no congressperson has felt the need to change it. After all, it is a great plan.
    For all practical purposes their plan works like this:
    When they retire, they continue to draw the same pay until they die.
    Except it may increase from time to time for cost of living adjustments.. For example, Senator Byrd and Congressman White and their wives may expect to draw $7,800,000.00 (that's Seven Million, Eight-Hundred Thousand Dollars), with their wives drawing $275,000.00 during the last years of their lives.
    This is calculated on an average life span for each of those two Dignitaries.
    Younger Dignitaries who retire at an early age, will receive much more during the rest of their lives.
    Their cost for this excellent plan is $0.00. NADA... ZILCH... ZERO!!!

    This little perk they voted for themselves is free to them. You and I pick up the tab for this plan. The funds for this fine retirement plan come directly from the General Funds; "OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK "!
    From our own Social Security Plan, which you and I pay (or have paid) into, every payday until we retire (which amount is matched by our employer). We can expect to get an average of $1,000 per month after retirement. Or, in other words, we would have to collect our average of $1,000 monthly benefits for 68 years and one (1) month to equal Senator Bill Bradley's benefits!
    Social Security could be very good if only one small change were made.
    That change would be to: Jerk the Golden Fleece Retirement Plan from under the Senators and Congressmen. Put them into the Social Security plan with the rest of us Then sit back... And see how fast they would fix it.
    If enough people receive this, maybe a seed of awareness will be planted and maybe good changes will evolve.
    How many people CAN you send this to?

    Better yet How many people WILL you send this to?


    http://www.rense.com/general79/seniors.htm


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    What of transnational citizens? What about crossborder conurbations (per se) such as the San Diego-Tijuana area?

    This post does not adequately discuss the solution to this problem, it merely lists statistics in a paranoid manner.
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    There is nothing paranoid about being aware of the damages the illegal aliens do to this country. I believe the solution is in the title - deportation.


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    You wouldn't even need mass deportations. If you enforced laws about hiring illegals, and disallowed them from collecting any state benefits, most would return on their own.

    This was tried by President Eisenhower, and it worked:

    http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0706/p09s01-coop.html

    on June 17, 1954, what was called "Operation Wetback" began. Because political resistance was lower in California and Arizona, the roundup of aliens began there. Some 750 agents swept northward through agricultural areas with a goal of 1,000 apprehensions a day. By the end of July, over 50,000 aliens were caught in the two states. Another 488,000, fearing arrest, had fled the country.

    By mid-July, the crackdown extended northward into Utah, Nevada, and Idaho, and eastward to Texas.

    By September, 80,000 had been taken into custody in Texas, and an estimated 500,000 to 700,000 illegals had left the Lone Star State voluntarily.

    Unlike today, Mexicans caught in the roundup were not simply released at the border, where they could easily reenter the US. To discourage their return, Swing arranged for buses and trains to take many aliens deep within Mexico before being set free.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dagna View Post
    There is nothing paranoid about being aware of the damages the illegal aliens do to this country. I believe the solution is in the title - deportation.
    The title does not say anything about deportation ^^

    Illegal Aliens Cause Massive Cuts For US Seniors

    But really I think the problem is more so legal aliens, in all contexts, especially the European.

    What my question was (in simpler terms) what of urban areas along the border coming together to form what is known as a conurbation (a continuous urban area)? And what of crossborder cooperation?
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    This is proof that the U.S. government and officials know the number of illegal immigrants in this country and where to find them. So, why are they not doing anything to take measures to deport these people?

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    Illegal Immigrants Are a Factor in the Budget Gap Math

    Illegal immigrants are a factor in the budget gap math

    Most of the policy issues are out of California's hands. The federal government has jurisdiction over the border. Federal law decrees that every child is entitled to attend public school, regardless of immigration status. And every person -- here illegally or not -- must be cared for in hospital emergency rooms

    From Sacramento — Based on my e-mail, a lot of folks think the solution to California’s state budget deficit is to round up all the illegal immigrants and truck them down to Mexico.

    Wrong. Even if it were logistically possible and the deportees didn’t just climb off the truck and hitch another ride back up north, their absence from the state wouldn’t come close to saving enough tax dollars to balance a budget that has a $42-billion hole projected over the next 17 months.

    Painful cuts in education, healthcare and social service programs still would be needed. Sharp tax increases would be required.

    That said, let’s be honest: Illegal immigration does cost California taxpayers a substantial wad, undeniably into the billions.

    But it hasn’t been PC for officeholders to talk about this for years, ever since Gov. Pete Wilson broke his pick waging an aggressive campaign for Proposition 187. That 1994 ballot initiative sought to bar illegal immigrants from most public services, including education. Voters approved the measure overwhelmingly, but it was tossed out by the courts.

    http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.o...ath/#more-4238


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    Illegal Aliens Hurt Americans

    Illegal aliens hurt Americans


    It does not take a constitutional ruling to say these illegal alien babies are not real U.S. citizens. It takes one state's lawmakers to raise the issue about this fraud racket of women sneaking into the U.S. when they are ready to have a baby, knowing that no hospital can refuse them, and knowing that Medicaid will pay the bill while millions of legal citizens cannot afford health care

    Editor:

    We need to support the legislative House Bill 103 from Rep. Pete Illoway, R-Cheyenne, to make it a felony to transport or harbor an illegal alien and other sanctions on illegal aliens.

    It should also add on the federal E-verify system requiring employers to check workers’ immigration status.

    Millions of legal citizens are losing jobs and our new president Barack Obama says he will create four million jobs building roads, bridges and schools which are needed instead of wasting billions on the stupid Bush-Cheney war in Iraq.

    On any highway repair job it’s easy to pick out the many illegal aliens from Mexico and Obama needs to understand that the 20 million illegal aliens in the U.S. are hurting unemployed legal citizens.

    Also this bill before the Wyoming lawmakers needs to address the fact that over 200,000 babies are born each year to illegal alien mothers and it’s all paid for by Medicaid. And that baby born in the U.S. is then a legal citizen, and that mother gets on the U.S. welfare system for life.

    http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.o...urt-americans/


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    What is most disconcerting to me about the incoming illegal aliens is how the bleeding heart liberals think for some reason we are supposed to take care of these people? I personally work in a hospital and see American citizens unable to get proper healthcare, but some with-child Mexican woman will come in and get full service. It is disgusting. And THEN, she will have that baby in America and suddenly they will both be citizens.

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