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    Re: Coffee-coloured race to take over planet (Times of India)

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    AW: Re: Coffee-coloured race to take over planet (Times of India)

    Quote Originally Posted by SineNomine View Post
    This is why I am asking. I'll show something from Nordish.com:



    This is from the East-Nordid.

    Most Eastern European variants have less body hair, including East vs. Western/Skandonordids (on average), but crucial is its true for both sexes and sometimes even more so for the males. The hairless look is more important for females obviously, so sexual dimorphism makes most sense on that.

    This reminds us of the ethnic situation in Burundi and Rwanda: The Tutsi minority, which traditionally also grew crops in addition to breeding cattle, is reportedly tall, slim and intelligent, whereas the Hutu-majority, which customarily bred cattle, is said to be squat. The Tutsis are usually politically most powerful and dominant in both these countries, as well as in Eastern Congo.
    Compare with:
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    Thats not an indoor-outdoor question primarily, its more a question of nutrition and other selective pressures - more saving and one sided (reduced-pyknomorphic) or more versatile and expensive (mature-leptomorphic). Only the very extreme leptomorphs, with weak bones and structure (very hypoplastic-Asthenic) being a less physically active and not as versatile variant, the typical sinewy leptomorphs are physically as well as mentally elite.
    Reduced pyknomorphs might be able to deal with hunger and certain one sided diets (mainly crops) better, whereas progressive variants are or at least were at some stage more "meat-eaters" and/or relied strongly on products from animals (like milk, cheese etc.).
    Most warlike, dominant and more mobile variants of the world, with the exception of those living in very extreme climatic environments (like Tungids in the cold steppe) are more leptomorphic than the subdominant, almost strictly sedentary and less active groups.

    The Lolo (Yi) being similar to the Tutsis if comparing their old ("black bone") upper class with the subjugated people of the South East Asian region in their territories. Same is true for many regions and groups of the world. The more interesting point for Europe especially North of a certain line was that there were times in which practically no minus-variants existed nor negative trends, but progressive-dominant variants alone competing with each other over many centuries and thousands of years. This was mainly stopped by certain developments of civilisation which was formed by those variants, but worked partly against their own biological interests (dysgenic) and especially with the dependent, sedentary, suffering and plagued medieval times.

    It was quite often the case that a natural upper class was born out of a more mobile, dominant, active and warlike group of more leptomorphic and schizothymic individuals conquering larger areas and becoming the natural ruling class. The main problem being that in the lower strata the selection was often negative and not strong enough to keep the high standard of the original leading group and that at the same time signs of degeneration and decadent culture could have been observed in the upper class as well. So unstable and mobile times produce the biological potential, stable civilisations use it up without Eugenic measures, thats why its so important for both culture and race to think about dysgenic processes and Eugenic measures. Poverty and misery never produces a better variant, especially if those suffering dont have too much options for acting against the negative structures determining their fate. In small-tribal groups the hungry ones could, if being strong and intelligent enough, simply conquer the territory of another group, in medieval Europe that wasnt possible, the peasants were mostly bound to their territory and had simply to stand passively hunger, plagues, suppression, dependency and negative selection (better variants became mercenaries, priests, city dwellers, rebels, robbers etc. and had less children if they survived the hunger and plagues of early age at all).

    So its true if letting people to suffer from deficiencies over thousands of generations one would get a degenerated type, probably even species if they were isolated (compare with Homo floresiensis or Pygmy-variants), whereas the higher and more versatile demands for the leading elements would never allow such variants to play a big role in the leadership and highest social strata. Negative personality variants, urban-adapted merchant variants and sociopaths yes, but the generally low standard ones would never make it - at least not at the same percentages. The old "herder-warrior-elite" being still needed in many areas and functions of society, they just dont win biologically to the same extend as they should nor working for their own kind and group all the time, since they are being manipulated by the degenerated society and false ideals, with the negative urban-adapted and petty-minded variants being the main factor for the aberration. On their own those would have never been able to become that dominant like the real biological elite, but in already existing structures formed by those positive variants they could use certain weaknesses and gain more and more power and higher positions for the bad of the group.
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    AW: Re: Coffee-coloured race to take over planet (Times of India)

    Quote Originally Posted by Thruthheim View Post
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    What they don't recognise is, History goes round in cycles, and there is nothing to suggest that what we're enduring now, Multiculturalism, will continue into the future, in 30-50 or a 100 years time.
    This is totally right! Political and social ideologies and systems changed so fastly in the history of mankind. From century to century, and sometimes even from decade to decade. Do you think Julius Cesar thought that the invincible Roman Empire will not exist anymore in less than 300 years??

    Its absolutely naive to think that mankind will go on like in the second half of the 20th century and in the first years of the 21th century. Ive the opinion that some big changes will take place in the 21th century, and that this multiculturalistic stupidity will be smashed by the people (no matter of which ethnicy they are) of the world, because its only a theoretical construct who goes against the will of humans nature, goes against the will of the heart.

    Mankind civilisations suffer now a trauma of the 2nd Worldwar. They fear ethnic homogenity (because it may lead to "Übermenschen" and big wars) and patriotism. So they want to mix all people and extinct nations - because of fear, not reason! But these generations will die out in the next decades. The new generations will see the problems in the ideologies, they will change these things. The youth nowadays is indeed more conservative than the youth around the 68er or the 70ies...they are only brainwashed by - well, what a surpise - the media..who are mostly controlled by the generation of people of the trauma-generation!

    I have faith in the upcoming generations. I think the big change in world policy will take place even in our lifetime, maybe in 20-40 years, when the new generations, not the trauma/68-liberals, take over power. Maybe there will be a big war, maybe not. But after that (post-shutdown - a new start for mankind???), I think people will regain their pride and self-concisnous - even the Europeans.

    So I think the article is wrong. The Whites will not die out in 1000 years, and not any other race, too. The problems are only temporarly.

    Furthermore, the nature has the most influence on skincolor. Ecologists say that a new global icetime (like the one 30.000 years ago) will take place in around 50-60.000 years. So, and what skincolor is the best for cold climates? ...The white skincolor.

    So even if all people mix together to a "coffee-colored race" because of ideological propaganda...this ideologies have NO influence on nature and on the principles of evolution. If the planet goes into a new icetime, the skincolor and other anthropological components of human body will "go white" in a timespan of around 20 generations. We Europeans look as we look because we lived in a colder climate for centuries and millenias.

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    AW: Coffee-coloured race to take over planet (Times of India)

    With the technological and social developments of the last decades and the decades to come things will change drastically, being no longer comparable to the past, because it will be possible and getting easier and easier for a smaller and smaller minority of people to control a mass of people with modern techniques. If the developments will go on the same way we saw it so far, those ruling in 100 years might be able to rule even if making mistakes for the next thousands of years if no drastic catastrophies stop them.
    The current socio-economic system being controlled by the plutocratic Oligarchy, they are in charge now, they define whats right or wrong for "our elite" and the majority of our people. They define what the people have to do to "be socially successful" in the current system. So as long as they control the system and people play the game after their rules, there will be no chance and no hope for Europeans nor mankind. Actually the only chance if those plutocrats stay in power for positive developments would be an improvement of themselves by Eugenic-genetic measures and accidental side effects producing a better leading-variant which might think different than their corrupted parents which just wanted to secure the power of the own bloodline and way of thinking by this.
    Another option would be a conflict inside of this plutocratic rulers or a break-down of the system in the next decades, because they make mistakes and cant control the society and people during the "next reboot" of the financial system. If they dont make too much mistakes and can control the situation while the "reboot" of the financial system is taking place I see no chance to get rid of their control over the people. If Europeans would wake up in the last seconds of their historical existence, they might simply buy foreign mercenaries, police men and using modern techniques to fight riots, uprisings and to manipulate the people through psychological warfare and omnipresent propaganda.

    Things might change for Europeans to the better in the next decades or its over and you can forget about homogenous European communities and must think about options for the European rests and mixed ones and their alternatives of fighting or at least changing the system to the better. Old day Europe will be dead then. Its not too much time left and as I said, if going on in the same direction like in the last 100 years (things can always develop in unexpected ways though), control over the people will be easier and easier to gain and maintain by those being in charge already. The question is just which people will do it for which purpose, for the good of the people, group and mankind or for their own profits and power alone. Individualised, mixed-heterogenous masses being easier to control than a homogeneous group with a strong group orientation which might act almost like one person against negative developments influencing parts of it. Individuals are totally helpless in the face of modern control techniques already and will be even more so in the future.
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    Human species 'may split in two'



    Humanity may split into two sub-species in 100,000 years' time as predicted by HG Wells, an expert has said.

    Evolutionary theorist Oliver Curry of the London School of Economics expects a genetic upper class and a dim-witted underclass to emerge.

    The human race would peak in the year 3000, he said - before a decline due to dependence on technology.

    People would become choosier about their sexual partners, causing humanity to divide into sub-species, he added.

    The descendants of the genetic upper class would be tall, slim, healthy, attractive, intelligent, and creative and a far cry from the "underclass" humans who would have evolved into dim-witted, ugly, squat goblin-like creatures.

    Race 'ironed out'

    But in the nearer future, humans will evolve in 1,000 years into giants between 6ft and 7ft tall, he predicts, while life-spans will have extended to 120 years, Dr Curry claims.

    Physical appearance, driven by indicators of health, youth and fertility, will improve, he says, while men will exhibit symmetrical facial features, look athletic, and have squarer jaws, deeper voices and bigger penises.

    Women, on the other hand, will develop lighter, smooth, hairless skin, large clear eyes, pert breasts, glossy hair, and even features, he adds. Racial differences will be ironed out by interbreeding, producing a uniform race of coffee-coloured people.

    However, Dr Curry warns, in 10,000 years time humans may have paid a genetic price for relying on technology.

    Spoiled by gadgets designed to meet their every need, they could come to resemble domesticated animals.

    Receding chins

    Social skills, such as communicating and interacting with others, could be lost, along with emotions such as love, sympathy, trust and respect. People would become less able to care for others, or perform in teams.

    Physically, they would start to appear more juvenile. Chins would recede, as a result of having to chew less on processed food.

    There could also be health problems caused by reliance on medicine, resulting in weak immune systems. Preventing deaths would also help to preserve the genetic defects that cause cancer.

    Further into the future, sexual selection - being choosy about one's partner - was likely to create more and more genetic inequality, said Dr Curry.

    The logical outcome would be two sub-species, "gracile" and "robust" humans similar to the Eloi and Morlocks foretold by HG Wells in his 1895 novel The Time Machine.

    "While science and technology have the potential to create an ideal habitat for humanity over the next millennium, there is a possibility of a monumental genetic hangover over the subsequent millennia due to an over-reliance on technology reducing our natural capacity to resist disease, or our evolved ability to get along with each other, said Dr Curry.

    He carried out the report for men's satellite TV channel Bravo.



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    Cool Re: Coffee-coloured race to take over planet (Times of India)

    I agree fully that this theory is based on data from a too short period of history to try to conclude a general trend spanning over several centuries.
    Just like Marx did when he came to the conclusion that either communism or total slavery would the the inevitable result of the trends in workers wages caused by the industrialisation.

    Genetic engineering is not that far away, we will see the first result of this in the following decades. It is unstoppable. As the scientific community is gaining more knowledge about the relations between genes, proteins and phenotype this will inevitably also bring the possibility to use this knowledge to redesign the human genome.

    Genetic modification can be outlawed, but never stopped, it would be like trying to outlaw high explosives in the 19-th century.
    Science simply does not work that way. Anyone with a decent knowledge in the laws of chemistry can cook up explosives fairly easy with chemicals also used for other purposes.

    And when the chemicals is the molecules of life, no one can control them without shutting down virtually the whole industrialised society and assign one police officer per free citizen...

    Also, just like high explosives, GM offers key advantages for those who are willing and ruthless enough to use it regardless of what the morals of the international community would say. As always, power is the force that everything else is dependant on. And when the rules change, the king loses his head...

    So, after sliding a bit "almost offtopic", I'd state the following: The coffee people will never rule anything. Mankind will evolve themselves in as many directions as there is ideals. And when these ideals are reached, why would you need to be backwards-compatible? That would make us diverge even farther, from races to species, just the opposite to what the article states.

    Regardless of what the future brings, my descendants will look hallstatt just like me.
    And yes, I am very non-hairy compared to most, bodyhair is for monkeys.

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    Re: AW: Re: Coffee-coloured race to take over planet (Times of India)

    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie View Post
    So even if all people mix together to a "coffee-colored race" because of ideological propaganda...this ideologies have NO influence on nature and on the principles of evolution. If the planet goes into a new icetime, the skincolor and other anthropological components of human body will "go white" in a timespan of around 20 generations. We Europeans look as we look because we lived in a colder climate for centuries and millenias.

    Exactly, besides brown skin was developed in people who lived for thousands of years between the tropics. How will dark skin develop in the colder weathers in the future??


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    Re: Coffee-coloured race to take over planet (Times of India)

    Quote Originally Posted by Orlon View Post
    Mankind will evolve themselves in as many directions as there is ideals.
    But I don't think there's ROOM on our planet any more for more than at most three ideological blocs any more. In the near future, many ideologies will simply not be tolerated by the present regimes. Every day that passes while we're on our current track makes some futures less and less likely.
    Many here have too much faith in science, when demographics and the politics that feeds from it will not allow such technology to be used.

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    Re: Human species 'may split in two'

    Well, I'll just call myself an "Evolutionary Theorist" for the head-up-your-butt Un-Economic Times and say this article is the worst, in terms of scientific discussion of evolutionary theory, I have ever heard.

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    Re: AW: Re: Coffee-coloured race to take over planet (Times of India)

    Quote Originally Posted by Here View Post
    Exactly, besides brown skin was developed in people who lived for thousands of years between the tropics. How will dark skin develop in the colder weathers in the future??
    Because of nutrition. Pale skin evolved to enhance the production of Vitamin D in areas with less sun intensity.
    It is said that the Inuit could escape that trend because of raw fish they were eating all the time.

    Paleness is not needed anymore, but who knows maybe it will be needed sometime again.
    Last edited by Jäger; Friday, October 20th, 2006 at 06:39 PM. Reason: D not B it was :)
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