View Poll Results: Are You a Socialist or Capitalist?

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  • I'm (mostly) Socialist.

    55 34.59%
  • I'm (mostly) Capitalist.

    53 33.33%
  • I'm a little bit of both.

    25 15.72%
  • I'm neither.

    20 12.58%
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    The Lawspeaker, I think what you say makes a lot of Sense. The Problem about Socialism is that it offers similar or equal Opportunities to People when our States are full of Foreigners. If the State was monoethnic there would be no Problem. I don't believe in the Equality of People but in equal Opportunities. Everyone should have the Right to an Education in my Opinion. Some People will do better and others worse. Some will become Professors, others Cleaning Ladies but no one will be able to say it was unfair and their Situation disadvantaged them. In the Capitalist, Moneyworshipping State of Romania Jobs aren't given to People based on their Capabilities, they are given to People based on Social Status and Class, Relationships and Bribing.

    Emder, yes, they are Outlooks too but this Test is based on Economics so I think it's best for the Economic Forum. I think Individualism is too liberal. In my Opinion a Nation is a Collective Unit. There should be some Individualism but People should cooperate to support the whole Nation too.

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    It depends on your country’s current state. If we lived in some utopia where everything is perfect, then I wouldn’t mind things such as welfare and cheaper health care and higher taxes and the like. Our economies and countries are not perfect. I see socialism as a way in helping lower Turks, Negroids etc. assimilate in our countries.

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    @Siebenbürgerin

    Well perhaps it will be time for Romania to start taking classes economy- West European style. In 1927 the Wet op de collectieve arbeidsovereenkomst (Collective Bargaining Act) was introduced in the Netherlands. I will try to summarise it (if not for my own pleasure and gloathing because this piece here is the pure masterpiece of our Dutch system).

    * expresses the full meaning of collective bargaining

    * the trade unions and the organisations that are representing the employers need to note down in their statutes that they have the power invested in them by the people that they represent to open negotiations.

    * that the organisations that have negotiated a CAO deal, that they will stick to it.

    * that all conditions that are in conflict with the CAO and that have been placed in a contract are null and void from the onset- only the CAO counts.

    * emphasizes on who is bound to that CAO, workers, employers and both organisations etc etc.

    * that the employer that is bound to that CAO is hereby forced to enforce the settlement on all workers- also those that are not legally covered by it.

    * in case of a take-over by another company, the CAO will continue to be valid and that means that the new owner of the company will have to enforce the CAO as decided in negotiations with the former owner.
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    Tekst Wet op de CAO (Dutch)

    Info Akkoord van Wassenaar 1982 (Dutch) - PDF file contains the full Akkoord.

    For a lot more information I can advise everyone to read about the Dutch Polder Model.

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    I hope you don't mind me not taking the test. I already know I'm a socialist. Capitalism is destroying this country with its selfish and individualistic nature. We Germans are one nation. Any nationalist thinks in terms of his nation. It's the only way to go for me.

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    ah true nationalist doesnt limit himself you vote or use on that moment whats best for your country and nation.

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    You Are 40% Capitalist, 60% Socialist

    You tend to be quite wary of businesses, especially big business.
    While you know that corporations have their place, you tend to support small, locally owned shops.
    As far as the rich go, you think they're usually corrupt and immoral.


    I know rich people who are also generous to a fault, but I'm of the opinion that giant corporations tend to be corrupt. CEOS for instance get paid far more than they deserve.

    I do like dealing with small business, mainly because what I spend goes back into our local community.
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    You Are 92% Capitalist, 8% Socialist
    You're a capitalist pig - and proud of it.
    You believe that business makes the world great...
    And you'd never be ashamed of being rich!



    For the curious, the '8% socialist' comes from supporting laws against insider trading (make for better functioning capital markets) and public eduction (helps in class mobility), I'm not 100% sure of these though, as well as a couple boxes I did check.


    Quote Originally Posted by Siebenbürgerin View Post
    In the Capitalist, Moneyworshipping State of Romania Jobs aren't given to People based on their Capabilities, they are given to People based on Social Status and Class, Relationships and Bribing.
    That sounds more like socialism-in a more capitalist society, businesses which operated in this matter would go out of business when having to compete with companies which hired on merit, and thus obtained better employees. For example, if there were 2 restaurants in your town, and one was dirty and the food sucked since they hired bad employees because of social class&relationships, and the other was clean and had good food since people were hired based on ability to cook and clean, everyone would go to the clean restaurant with good food, and the dirty restaurant with bad food would go out of business.
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    You Are 48% Capitalist, 52% Socialist
    While you are definitely sympathetic to a free economy, you also worry about the less fortunate.
    Wealth and business is fine, as long as those who are in need get helped out too.
    You tend to see both the government and corporations as potentially corrupt.
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    100% Capitalist. No surprise. I have not bought into a single "moral" or "economic" argument for state socialism, and I will not hesitate to use scare quotes for either, since I find neither convincing. That does not mean I am for big "evil" corporations, given that they are a product of the interventionist state, nor does it mean I hate the poor or any other such fictions of a damaged socialist mind (it may come as a shock to some, but egoism isn't the only ethical defence of the market.) In the context of an interventionist state, welfare is justifiable - personally I'd do without either corporate or any other form of compulsory "welfare". I have no problem with socialists establishing their own societies based on their own economic principles either, provided they do not impose it on non-consenting individuals.

    Should it be a mystery that the denizens of ex-USSR countries "worship" money? Why is this a recurring theme in these countries? Shouldn't this signal something?

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    I´m for "Soziale Marktwirtschaft". That is German and means "Social marketeconomy". It´s more or less a mix between capitalism and socialism, but not 50/50, but more like 70/30 in favor of capitalism.

    100% pure capitalism would be "Freie Marktwirtschaft". "Free marketeconomy". The market rules everything. In the "Soziale Marktwirtschaft", the state has some influence on the market to reglement and soften hardships.

    Since I´m more capitalistic than socialistic (and not vice versa), I voted for "capitalism".

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