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    Lightbulb Discussion on Stategy and the Forming of a Mission statement

    First of all, We as White Nationalists (from both the left and right) must ask ourself:

    What is our vision?


    What do we want to achieve? (In the next 5-10 years as well as the longer term.)

    How are going to achieve it?

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    Re: Discussion on Stategy and the forming of a Mission statement

    I'm surprised that there has been such little reaction. Is complaining more important than brainstorming?
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    Re: Discussion on Stategy and the forming of a Mission statement

    I think the term "White Nationalist" puts many on the wrong footing to begin with - I know it deters me to be honest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carl View Post
    ---- How about making a CONSTRUCTIVE addition?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thruthheim View Post
    I think the term "White Nationalist" puts many on the wrong footing to begin with - I know it deters me to be honest.
    Excellent point, and a great way to start...what do you think would be a good umbrella term?
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    Re: Discussion on Stategy and the forming of a Mission statement

    Quote Originally Posted by SiegUmJedenPreis View Post
    Excellent point, and a great way to start...what do you think would be a good umbrella term?
    It's all about, who hijacks the terminology, and makes it their own.
    I associate White Nationalist with the typical poster on Stormfront, of American extraction, ranting and raving about "Niggers" and hanging them all. It's also got a strong inclination to the KKK and such, for me.

    As an umbrella term, it sounds fine. But due to it's predominant useage by the unintellectual types, I think it sets us back to be associated with it. However i do, Awkwardly accept those that describe themselves as such, as kin to my own belief.

    Other possible umbrella terms exist within intra-groups, such as Nordishist, Pan-European Nationalist etc.

    I personally don't identify myself with White Nationalism as it's too pan-European for me. Although i support the entire freedom of the European peoples, I think the term tries to ignore differences between European peoples and also serves to belittle our identities - possibly why it's suitable only for Americans and New World peoples without a strong mono-ethno-identity.
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    Re: Discussion on Stategy and the forming of a Mission statement

    Quote Originally Posted by Thruthheim View Post
    It's all about, who hijacks the terminology, and makes it their own.
    Exactly my experience as well.

    Other possible umbrella terms exist within intra-groups, such as Nordishist, Pan-European Nationalist etc.

    I personally don't identify myself with White Nationalism as it's too pan-European for me. Although i support the entire freedom of the European peoples...
    In that case, isn't a certain common ground even more necessary?
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    Re: Discussion on Stategy and the forming of a Mission statement

    Quote Originally Posted by SiegUmJedenPreis View Post
    Excellent point, and a great way to start...what do you think would be a good umbrella term?
    "National-Folklorists" is quite good to me. Nation and folklore are terms that support each other, because one leads to the other, and both include the concepts of race, preservation, a wish of improvement and pride. Maybe to narrow the definition we could say "Aryan National-Folklorists".
    A good way to start would be that of having a radio program, it's cheaper than a tv program and you can reach easier all sectors, including those (like the most of teens) who don't read not even a newspaper. The radio should be a somewhat popular one.
    The program should not reveal its objective from the first moment. You must adopt a style not too "intellectualloid" because you'll loose the young audience, which must be our main target. But keep a certain cultural level so to bring to you the ears of adult people. Be funny but without insults or dirty words. Comment some news, select them carefully to show the damage that our society suffers, but without attacking youngs. When commenting add always references to historical facts, and with moderate admiration towards national things, the capacity of knowledge but avoid commenting on negros, jews or similars (neither supporting them nor denigrating them, just ignore them). Play modern music but avoid all kinds of "negro music" or those with lyrics referring to derrotists feelings or supporting multiculturalism. In each program, make time to play folk music, but without anouncing that you're going to do that, and always in the same section in which you play modern music, once played, make a simple comment to make curious our listener. When speaking about news, your historical referrences should include examples of nationalists, speak with a certain admiration about them but try to avoid mentioning their ideology, only mention that they "worked for the well of his nation". Since actual news are about sad events in general, you can always say "that is terrible that people doesn't respect their own culture". But always keep in mind that the program must be funny, that kind of program that people hears to "scape for a moment from reality and have a good time" so the news should occupy a short time in the schedule.
    If everything goes well, you'll achieve some popularity, so start to speak out a tougher message. Let the listener use your program as a place to cry out all of their opinions and problems, they should send the comments by e-mail or with a receptionist, so you'll read those that can be used to support your message (the rest are left apart with the famous "we don't read the rest due to lack of time"). Now invite from time to time scientists, historians, periodists who where in places like the last Lebanon-Israel war (anti Israel of course) and alk about issues like advances in technology (here the German influence during WWII is undeniable, get advantage of it and remark the beginnings of a certain technologies in the '40s Germany for example) or provocative situations like the German economical crisis after the Versailles Treaty, and you can remark the very bad situation of the folk and that Hitler stabilized the economy, but stop there, never mention the war or the jews (by doing that you take the risk of loosing audience). A polemic subject is also when nationalists are forbiden in some elections, or the case of Haider in Austria ("what kind of democracy is that in which you can't elect your president no matter its ideology?" could be a phrase to use multiculturalism and democracy against themselves). And finnally my favorite: between all the news you mention, try to find at least one related with crimes made by non-whites, but only mention it, so as you don't make a comment on it, people will ask you to do it, or will even send you their opinions. I gave examples about the nazi Germany, but first would be better to talk about present and local problems, and leave those subjects for the second part of the plan. Remember always being apparently moderate (at first at least) but with subliminal messages.
    And this would be only the beginning...

    Many members have posted possible solutions: Carl, Moody Lawless and Aeric are good examples. Kaiser, Pervitinist are other good examples, and even I have posted some suggestions. There's no lack of ideas, but of possibilities, that's because I suggested the radio, we should start with propaganda, and after a good base, start to participate more deeply. I think that the problem of present nationalist movements is the bad propaganda that they make, it's too direct, whereas the jew one works by little steps (and with better results to them awfully).

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    Re: Discussion on Stategy and the forming of a Mission statement

    National Socialist is good enough, for me at least. The first thing which needs to be done is writing a political program which can be presented to the world, nothing which is intended to please the masses though. No compromises.

    For that to happen, "we" can't make that openly since there are to many streams in this "movement". Homogeneity needs to be achieved first, an elite class so to say, a simply aristocratic concept.

    So I wouldn't really discuss such things, rather point out what ones thinking on this might be, and on that basis people can form units.

    It is certainly no all unifying concept, but on purpose that is, otherwise it would be actually a hindrance rather than a step forward, therefor I also reject the term White Nationalists, too inclusive.
    "Nothing is more disgusting than the majority: because it consists of a few powerful predecessors, of rogues who adapt themselves, of weak who assimilate themselves, and the masses who imitate without knowing at all what they want." (Johann Wolfgang Goethe)

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    Re: Discussion on Stategy and the forming of a Mission statement

    Quote Originally Posted by Thruthheim View Post

    I personally don't identify myself with White Nationalism as it's too pan-European for me. Although i support the entire freedom of the European peoples, I think the term tries to ignore differences between European peoples and also serves to belittle our identities - possibly why it's suitable only for Americans and New World peoples without a strong mono-ethno-identity.
    I don't think that we are ignoring differences between European peoples. Our enemy has made sure of that sufficiently enough. It is time for us to bond. Time for us to heal. Time for us to unite. One White can fly a Scottish flag the next a Union Jack. One White can fly the Russian flag, the next a Confederate one. One White can fly the III Reich flag, the next the French flag. And so on. But the common banner must be our Race. Our common uniform must be our skin. Our common theme must be White freedom, security, and prosperity. Different fingers of a hand we can be. Yes. But forming one fist is a must, indeed. We can have different sub-cultures within one Pan-Kultur. We can have different thoughts, opinions, political systems, economic systems, and religions. But we must have one heart beating in unison on the things that matter. Race, Family, Kultur, Survival.

    No matter what name we come up with the media jew will twist it into something evil regardless. This happened to me at rallies where everyone who was for a secure border and to end corruption in Mexico and America were invited. Nevertheless, despite there being negroids, asians, mescans, gays, lesbians, poor, and rich present, the media still labeled my rallies as "anti-immigrant" and "white supremacist", "racist".

    Insane!

    And it is not just semantics either. Gun rights, Abortion, Economics, Race. It matters not. The parasite's aim is to pervert our Holy Message for our Folk. The parasite has learned to change our wording on any subject. Then to change our thoughts. Then to alter our actions. We must learn from the tactics which work from the jew. We can reverse this trend slowly. For we do not yet posses the control of our media. One day we must. Even if it is taken back instead of bought back. The same with our monetary systems, courts, bureaucracies, universities, schools, militarys, etcetera. We must take them back.

    Every time one calls an Illegal Alien criminal invader an "undocumented worker" for instance, we must correct them. Kaiser say: Calling an Illegal Alien an undocumented worker is like calling a burglar an "uninvited house guest". This is starting to work in the USA to a large degree. Do not let people continue speaking with you, even radio and T.V. interviewers, or friends or neighbors until they get this basic definition right. I do it all the time with them. For example:

    Reporter: So Kaiser (not my real name, just my future title), how is your "anti-immigrant" rally coming along?

    Kaiser: What!? Who says we are anti-immigrant? We are Pro-legal immigrant. Pro-sovereignty. Pro-security. Pro-secure our borders. We are not "anti" anything!

    Reporter: Um, yes, well, I see. Then how do you feel about "undocumented migrants"?

    Kaiser: Ma'am, I do not "feel" anything about undocumented anybody. And I myself am a migrant. You see, one who migrates LEGALLY from say, Florida to Arizona is a "migrant". If he looses his documentation along the way I suppose he becomes "undocumented" until he files for more LEGAL paperwork or LEGAL I.D. But he certainly is not an Illegal Alien, which is the official government term for a criminal foreign invader who crosses our border illegally.

    Reporter: Right. But wasn't this nation built upon immigrants?

    Kaiser: Yes. This nation was founded upon LEGAL immigration. Now, we have tens of millions of Illegal Aliens killing cops, raping children, pushing dope, and stealing our nation. BIG difference.

    Reporter: But isn't what you are doing "racist" against "undocumented workers"?

    Kaiser: Undocumented workers? Here we go again. What we are talking about is Illegal Aliens criminally invading our Homeland. Not some LEGAL worker who looses his work permit. Stay on topic please. What is a "racist" anyway?

    Reporter: Um, it's a, well, they are people who hate others because of the color of their skin.

    Kaiser: Oh, in that case you definitely want to look into the extremely racist activities of La Raza (The Race) whose motto is, "Within the Race everything. Outside the Race nothing!" Or check out MALDEF, LULAC, the SPLC, ACLU, NAACP, and the worst racists MeCha, who calls for the violent overthrow of the US in the name of some mythical Aztlan www.aztlan.net These organizations are the most rabidly racist groups around. No, we are in no way affiliated with such hate groups, Ma'am. We are trying to make sure these fine people who love their home language and home culture get to enjoy that fine culture and language back at home with their wonderful families. We want to end corporate corruption preying upon these poor people in our country and in theirs. We want to report all these violent subversive racist communistic organizations exploiting these poor peoples for their own nefarious political purposes. That's why we are here.

    Reporter: O.K. Thanks Kaiser. I guess that concludes our interview then.

    This was a real life experience.

    Anyway, WORDS are powerful. WORDS are alive. WORDS conquer nations. No nation has ever gone to war without their leaders issuing WORDS first. This is a battle of WORDS. This is a battle of THOUGHTS. A Battle of IDEAS. This is a battle to the death of our Race or not.

    Let's start by all agreeing on some words.

    Saint James, Chapter Three:

    [2] For in many things we offend all. If any man offend not in word, the same is a perfect man, and able also to bridle the whole body.
    [3] Behold, we put bits in the horses' mouths, that they may obey us; and we turn about their whole body.
    [4] Behold also the ships, which though they be so great, and are driven of fierce winds, yet are they turned about with a very small helm, whithersoever the governor listeth.
    [5] Even so the tongue is a little member, and boasteth great things. Behold, how great a matter a little fire kindleth!
    [6] And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell.
    [7] For every kind of beasts, and of birds, and of serpents, and of things in the sea, is tamed, and hath been tamed of mankind:
    [8] But the tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.
    [10] Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing.
    Last edited by Kaiser; Saturday, November 25th, 2006 at 10:15 PM.

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