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    Deutsch als Weltsprache?

    Deutsch als Weltsprache? Franz Thierfelder, the Deutsche Akademie in Munich and the Promotion of the German Language Abroad, 1923–1945

    Eckard Michels

    The Deutsche Akademie (DA) in Munich was founded in the context of a general upsurge in cultural diplomacy in Germany after the First World War and it was the precursor of today's Goethe Institute. After a difficult start, by the early 1930s the DA had become the leading institution in the promotion of the German language abroad. The emergence of the DA's language policy was closely intertwined with the general development of German cultural diplomacy, which was largely financed by the Auswärtiges Amt but executed by private associations. It was also influenced by the discussions in the 1920s about the role of language in shaping German national identity, by contemporary developments in German linguistics and language teaching, and by the discourse of the socalled ‘conservative revolution’. Franz Thierfelder, secretary-general of the DA, managed to forge these developments into a coherent argument as to why Germany should intensify its language policy, centre it around the DA, and direct it mainly towards the Balkan countries. The language policy of the DA remained largely undisturbed by the Nazi seizure of power until the outbreak of war, even though the emphasis was now on race rather than language as the determining factor in German national identity. The reason for this was, firstly, that the cultural diplomacy of the Auswärtiges Amt and its private institutions such as the DA continued to be dominated for some time by non-Nazis and, secondly, that Germany's cultural diplomacy was dictated more by the constraints and dynamics of international politics and by economic necessities than by ideology. It was only after the outbreak of war that the expansion of the DA's language programme became closely linked to the racially motivated ‘new order’ for a Europe under Nazi rule.

    http://ghj.sagepub.com/cgi/reprint/22/2/206

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    Now, that is nearly impossible. Because German is a language, that must be learned from the beginning childhood on.

    Dennoch wäre ich nicht abgeneigt.

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    Re: AW: Deutsch als Weltsprache?

    hmm. nice idea....aber es war ein mal?
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    But don't worry, now we have the international language of Hip Hop!! - ---

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    Re: AW: Deutsch als Weltsprache?

    Under the current political circumstances, the Germans can be glad that German is not the international lingua franca. It would attract millions of people more from the Third World to Germany, the same way they now try to make it into the U.S., the U.K., Canada, New Zealand, Australia and South Africa. Because they are somewhat familiar with the English language. The ability to understand a language is a primary factor for choosing an immigration country.

    The Germans can be glad that they do not have the same colonial history like Great Britain and France, too.

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    Re: AW: Deutsch als Weltsprache?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paganist View Post
    Now, that is nearly impossible. Because German is a language, that must be learned from the beginning childhood on.
    As a world language, german would be around you from childhood on as today you are surrounded by english. Nowadays nearly all young danish or norwegian people do speak english. -- Not because english is so simple to master, but because its with them in mass-media.
    It's because of this permanent presence that a worldlanguage (english) seems to be easier than others, not of intrinsec qualities of the language in question.
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    German=Worldspeak? Yes, then however with a Reich

    German is for the German people and for people who want to learn it. But not for everybody.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rattenfänger View Post
    German=Worldspeak? Yes, then however with a Reich

    German is for the German people and for people who want to learn it. But not for everybody.
    Yes, but you have forgotten those people who have german roots (e.g. in the USA). It is a pity that most of them are not able to speak german. But that depends also on every single one of them.

    However, the spread of the english language has gone so far that it is worth to be declared as the only world language. I think, the german language is a beautiful language but it has not the chance to replace english in the next years.

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    Re: AW: Deutsch als Weltsprache?

    Ah yes, American Germans - there were lots of them too. wasn't there once that time when German might have become more universal in America .... once perhaps. But maybe now it is only right to have to struggle for it!

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    AW: Re: AW: Deutsch als Weltsprache?

    It would be a good idea, but I think it´s impossible to put it through...

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    Re: Deutsch als Weltsprache?

    German as a "world language" universally spreaded similarly as English or French are today would be a horror vision for me: as official language of countries of all kind of races and peoples and global koine of this "One World", with manifold corruptions and pidginisations ...

    Much better was the comparatively "moderate" world language status of German in the 19th and early 20th century: where it played a role as communication language for northern and eastern Europe and played an important role as language of international science and high-cultural interchange.

    H. St. Chamberlain somewhere wrote something like that the whole world should become German-speaking and get ransom so ... But I think that that was anyway just an a bit exaggerated way of expressing that German was the only "true" language ...
    Last edited by Nordgau; Monday, January 29th, 2007 at 09:53 PM.
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