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    National Socialism and Christianity

    HITLER, CHRISTIANITY, AND THE THIRD REICH

    By Kerry Bolton Po Box 1627 Paraparaumu Beach, Wellington, New Zealand


    The place of Christianity under Nazism has been a matter of contention, as with all else connected with that philosophy. Hitler has been damned as the devil incarnate by his Christian opponents, and heralded as a Jesus- like messiah by his Christian proponents. The 24th point of the NSDAP's political programme even describes National Socialism as standing for "positive Christianity." In order to access the real relationship of Christianity to National Socialism it is necessary to go beyond the propaganda of both pro- and anti- Nazi Christians. To do this the private pronouncements of the Nazi leaders must receive greater attention that their public statements. An additional consideration is the actual practice of the Nazi regime towards the churches.

    Hitler's private conversations with his inner circle between 1941 and 1944, as recorded by Reichleiter Bormann, himself one of the Nazi Party's most avid anti-Christians as we shall see, provide the most insightful of sources in determining the real attitude of Hitler towards Christianity. Hitler commented of Minister of Religion Kerrl’s effort to identify Nazism with "positive Christianity" that it was "the noblest of intentions, but I don't believe the thing's possible, and I see the obstacle in Christianity itself." "As for the men close to me", he stated, "who, like me, have escaped from the clutches of dogma, I've no reason to fear that the Church will get its hands on them. We'll see to it that the church cannot spread abroad teachings that conflict with the interests of the State. We shall continue to preach the doctrine of National Socialism, and the young will no longer be taught anything but the truth."

    "In the long run National Socialism and religion will no longer be able to exist together. The ideal solution would be to leave the religions to devour themselves, without persecutions." "The dogma of Christianity gets worn away before the advances of science. Religion has to make more and more concessions. Gradually the myths crumble."


    EARLY VIEW

    During the first years of the regime, and just prior to it, Hermann Rauschning recorded Hitler's conversations with his inner circle. According to Rauschning, a conservative in the ranks of the Nazi party who became the president of Danzig, Hitler said of Christianity: --- "Leave the hair-splitting to others. Whether it's the Old Testament or the New, or simply the sayings of Jesus, it's all the same old Jewish swindle. It will not make us free. A German church, a German Christianity is a distortion. One is either a German or a Christian. You cannot be both...... We don’t want people to keep one eye on the hereafter. We need free men who know that God is in themselves."

    Hitler made it clear that he was not interested in an "Aryanized Christianity" or the "Aryan Jesus" myth promoted by Houston Stewart Chamberlain, Von Liebenfells, and certain party members. "You cannot make an Aryan out of Jesus, that’s nonsense",he stated. Rather the festivals of the Church, hijacked by Christianity from the heathens in the first place, would be re-heathenized. "Easter is no longer resurrection, but the eternal renewal of our people. Christmas is the birth of OUR saviour: the spirit of heroism and the freedom of our people."

    If the priests put up resistance the regime would expose them before the people. "We shall brand them as ordinary criminals. I shall tear the mask of honesty off their faces. And if that is not enough, I shall make them appear ridiculous and contemptible. I shall order films to be made about them. We shall show the history of the monks on the cinema."

    Indeed in 1937 a trial was held of 337 monks, "for abusing pupils or patients" committed to their care. a few monks escaped with millions of marks of German money, while the vast majority were imprisoned. The English ex-monk Joseph McCabe commented that they went to court "on the vilest of charges". Of a chaplain named Father Leogivill, he said: "Once when he was on night duty he raped a sick youth of 17 who was asleep in the ward, and could not defend himself because his right arm was in a sling." This situation was not unique, nor is it today uncommon. What is unique are the effective measures the Third Reich took.


    FOLK RELIGION

    A folk religion would arise that would replace Christianity. "The peasant will be told what the Church has destroyed for him: the whole of the secret knowledge of nature, of the divine, the shapeless, the daemonic. The peasant shall learn to hate the Church on that basis. Gradually he shall be taught by what wiles the soul of the German people has been raped. We shall wash off the Christian veneer and bring out a religion peculiar to our race. and this is where we must begin, not in the big cities..."

    Rauschning remarks in his Hitler Speaks that the old folks customs were being used by the regime to de-Christianize the peasantry. Agriculture Minister Walter Darre, the original proponent of the famous "Blood and Soil" doctrine and the real father of the "Green Movement", was one of the regime’s most avid anti-Christians. Agricultural exhibitions had themes of the old peasant revolts against the Church. Peasant calendars were produced which replaced Christian festivals with Germanic heathen ones.


    COMMUNISM AND CHRISTIANITY: REVOLTS AGAINST NATURE

    The very doctrines of National Socialism and Christianity are antithetical. Christianity was held to be the forerunner of Bolshevism, and both were revolts against Nature herself, with the Jews to be behind each. Bormann records Hitler as stating: "Christianity is a religion against natural law, a protest against nature. taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure.

    "Pure Christianity- the Christianity of the catacombs- is concerned with translating the Christian doctrine into fact. It leads quite simply to the annihilation of mankind. It is merely wholehearted Bolshevism under a tinsel of metaphysics. "The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity’s illegitimate child...... The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity. Bolshevism practices a lie of the same nature when it claims to bring liberation to mankind. In the ancient world the relations between men and Gods were founded on an instinctive respect. It was a world enlightened by the idea of tolerance. Christianity was the first creed in the world to exterminate its adversaries in the name of love. Its keynote is intolerance."


    THE POX OF CHRISTIANITY

    Hitler’s analysis of Christianity is Nietzschean. "The reason why the ancient world was so pure, light and serene was that it knew nothing of the two great scourges: the pox and Christianity.'' "Christianity is a prototype of Bolshevism: the mobilization by the Jews of the masses of slaves with the object of undermining society. Thus one understands that the healthy elements of the Roman world were proof against the doctrine. Yet Rome (i.e. Fascist Italy) allows itself today to reproach Bolshevism with having destroyed the Churches. As if Christianity itself hadn't behaved in the same way towards the pagan temples."


    THE DEPLORABLE BIBLE

    "It is deplorable that the Bible should have been translated into German, and the whole of the German people should have thus become exposed to the whole of this Jewish mumbo-jumbo. As a sane German, one is flabbergasted to think that the German folk could have led themselves to such a pass by Jewish filth and priestly twaddle."


    PRIESTS

    "What a happy inspiration to have kept the clergy out of the party. On 21 March 1933 at Potsdam, the question was raised: with the Church or without the Church?I conquered the State despite the malediction pronounced on us by both creeds [i.e. Catholic and Protestant]. On that day, we went to the tomb of the kings, whilst the others were attending religious services. Suppose that at that period I'd made a pact with the churches, I'd today be sharing the lot of the Duce [Mussolini]. By nature the Duce is a free thinker, but he decided to choose the path of concessions. For my part, in his place I'd have decided to choose the path of revolution. I'd have entered the Vatican and thrown everybody out."

    As with many other matters, Hitler intended postponing a final reckoning with the priests until after the war.

    "The evil that's gnawing at our vitals is our priests, of both creeds. After the war, I'll take the necessary steps to make the recruiting of priests extraordinarily difficult. In particular, I'll no longer allow children from the age of 10 upward, to devote their lives to the Church when they've absolutely no notion what they're undertaking - in accepting celibacy for example."


    CHURCH & STATE

    Political interference from the clergy was not tolerated. Hitler stated:

    " If one once allows the Church to exercise the slightest influence on the governing of the people and the upbringing of the younger generation, it will strive to become omnipotent, and one makes a great mistake if one thinks that one can make a collaborator of the Church by accepting compromise."

    From the earliest days of the regime, the Nazis had come into conflict with the churches. The 1933 sterilization law of the congenitally retarded was particularly offensive to the Catholic church, with its doctrine of the sanctity of all human life, in contradistinction to the eugenic outlook of the Nazis.

    In 1937 Pius XI accused the regime of "secret and open fundamental hostility to Christ and his Church." Towards the end, in 1945, Pope Pius XII described National Socialism as "the arrogant apostasy from Jesus Christ, the denial of his doctrine and of his work of redemption, the cult of violence, the idolatry of race and blood, the overthrow of human liberty and dignity."

    One point of irritation to Hitler was that while the churches had declared themselves enemies of the German State, the people were expected to subsidize them. Subsidies were actually extracted from the wage packet much like union levies, and to contract out meant to endure considerable antagonism. This paradox was never resolved.

    Hitler commented that: "Once we cease handing out millions of marks a year to the Church, the damn parsons will very quickly change their tune and, instead of having the impudence to revile us and to attack us in the most shameful manner, will very soon be eating out of our hands. Once the war is over I will put a swift end to the Concodat [diplomatic agreement between the State and the Vatican].It will give me the greatest personal pleasure to point out to the Church all those occasions on which it has broken the terms of it. One need only recall the close co-operation between the Church and the murderers of Heydrich [Security Chief]. Catholic priests not only allowed them to hide in a Church, but even allowed them to entrench themselves in the sanctuary of the altar. "I don’t interfere with matters of belief, therefore I can’t allow churchmen to interfere with temporal affairs. The organized lie must be smashed. The State must remain the absolute master.

    "When I was younger, I thought it was necessary to set about matters with dynamite. I’ve since recognized there’s room for a little subtlety. The rotten branch falls of itself. The final state must be: in St. Peter’s chair, a senile officiate; facing him, a few old women, as gaga and as poor in spirit as anyone could be. The young and healthy are on our side. Against a church that identifies itself with the State, as in England, I have nothing to say. But even so, it’s impossible to hold humanity eternally in bondage to lies. After all, it was only between the 6th and 8th centuries that Christianity was imposed on our people by princes who had an alliance of interest with the shavelings. Our people had previously succeeded in living all right without this religion. I have six divisions of the SS composed of men absolutely indifferent in matters of religion. It doesn’t prevent them going to their deaths with serenity in their souls."

    "That the Fascists were spared a second civil war is due to the fact that the movement succeeded in uniting the Italian nation in spite of the opposition from the Church. Further, Fascism clearly defined the position as regards what things fell within the sphere of the Church and what things fell within the sphere of the State. When the Church refused to recognize the law for the formation of the Fascist Youth Organization, the Fascists retaliated by ruthlessly breaking up every religious procession from Rome to the south of Italy. The result was that within three days the Church had come to heel."


    JOY OF LIFE

    The heathen character of National Socialism was contrasted to the otherworldly preoccupation of the Church. Hitler states: "To deserve its place in history our people must be above all a people of warriors. This implies both privileges and obligations, the obligation of submitting to a most vigorous upbringing and the privilege of the healthy enjoyment of life. If a German soldier is expected to be ready to sacrifice his life with demur, then he is entitled to love freely and without restriction. In life, love and battle go hand in hand, and the inhibited little bourgeois must be content with the crumbs which remain. But if the warrior is to kept in f fighting trim, he must not be pestered with religious precepts which ordain abstinence of the flesh. A healthy-minded man simply smiles when a Saint of the Church like St. Anthony bids him eschew the greatest joy that life has to give, and offers him the solace of self-mortification and castigation in its place."


    HIMMLER AND THE SS

    The SS epitomizes the contradistinction between Christianity and the philosophy of the Third Reich. It was a Black Order in its own right, and Himmler envisaged the creation of an autonomous SS State which would be an example to the world of National Socialism. In 1937 Himmler instructed his chiefs to plan a counter-culture to replace Christianity, and it was declared, "the age of the final showdown with Christianity" had dawned, and one of the objectives of the SS was to provide Germans with "the proper ideological foundation" to replace it. An SS porcelain factory manufactured pagan cult objects to replace Christian symbols. The Summer and Winter Solstices were revived to replace Christian festivals. There were SS birth and marriage ceremonies of heathen character. The underlying conception behind such ceremonies was the SS perspective of birth and marriage as aspects of an eternal cycle of life and death.

    Himmler’s right-hand man, Heydrich, Reich Security chief, declared of Christianity and heathenism :

    "Who is there among us who does not, deep in his heart, provided he can still think with his blood, have a profound, strangely haunting sense of shame, when, walking through the countryside, before the panorama perhaps of snow-covered Alpine mountain tops or in the midst of a somber Westphalian heath, comes across an image of the crucified Jesus? The Gods of our ancestors looked different; they were men, and each had a weapon in his hand, symbolizing the attitude to life that is inherent in our race: that of action, that of a man’s responsibility to himself. How different the pale crucified one, expressing- by his decided look of suffering, humility and extreme surrender - qualities which contradict the fundamental heroic attitude of our race."

    Himmler’s idea of God was a major influence on SS philosophy. This Got was spelled with only one ‘T’ in archaic German, to distinguish it from the Christian "gott". At an SS birth ceremony it was declared: "From Got your knowledge, your tasks, your life-purpose, all life’s perceptions flow. Each who drink from this tankard be witness to the fact that you are Got-united."

    SS newlyweds were betrothed before the SS Wedding Altar and presented with a wooden bread dish by Himmler. This bore the carved legend: "Be worthy of the bread of your soil, then your kin will live forever."

    Himmler in his 1935 publication The SS as an Anti-Bolshevik Battle Organization, rejected atheism and propounded a belief in a god or first principle responsible for cosmic ordering of "this whole earth, the entire plant and animal world."

    Amongst his trusted aides he referred to this god as Uralten - "the original or ancient one", an old Germanic conception. Christianity had placed women in a position of subjection to enforce their destruction. The priesthood was seen as a homoerotic and even homosexual institution, anti-woman by its nature. "The whole tenor of the priesthood and the whole of Christianity [was that of] an erotic male fraternity for the formation and maintenance of this Bolshevism."

    " I have the conviction that the Roman emperors, who exterminated the first Christians, did precisely what we are doing with the communists. These Christians were at the time the vilest scum, which the city accommodated, the vilest Jewish people, the vilest Bolsheviks there were. The bolshevism at that time had the power to grow large on the dying body of Rome. The priesthood of this Christian church, which later in unending battle subjugated the Aryan Church, was engaged from the fourth to the fifth century in demanding the celibacy of the priesthood. They based themselves on St. Paul and the original apostles who presented the woman as something sinful and tolerated or recommended marriage as a legal way out of whoredom- that is in the Bible- and represented the procreation of children as a ‘necessary evil’. This priesthood pursued this path consistently through those centuries until in the year 1139 the celibacy of priests was put into effect.

    "Further, I have the conviction that merely for the few who do not wish to reconcile themselves to this homosexuality - especially for the parish priests who in my , estimation are to an overwhelming extent, over 50%, not homosexual, while I assume that in the monasteries homosexuality amounts to 90- 95-100% - there is a way out created for them to procure the necessary women and females in the oral confession box."

    Himmler hoped that within a few years judicial proceedings would show the Church leadership up as a homosexual fraternity which "has been terrorizing people for 1800 years, claiming from them the greatest blood sacrifices, sadistically perverse in its manifestations."
    As we have seen , several years later, the judicial system did begin to address this matter with the trial of monks for molestation. Himmler emphasized the anti-woman nature of the Medieval witch and heresy trials. It is an interesting sidelight that he expected particular attention to be paid to interaction between his SS men and young women socially, to combat the "exaggerated masculinizing" of society.

    Addressing SS at Posen in 1942 on their numerous tasks, Himmler zeroed in on Christianity ,saying that it would have to be dealt with more vigorously than hitherto. "This Christendom, this greatest pestilence which could have befallen us in history, which has weakened us for every conflict, we must finish with."

    Himmler attacked the Christian idea of Man as above or apart from Nature, and explained his cyclic conception of Eternity, that Man must be anchored in his ancestors and in his grandchildren.


    MARTIN BORMANN ON CHRISTIANITY

    Martin Bormann, who became Hitler's secretary and deputy after Hess' abortive peace mission to England, like Himmler, Rosenberg, Heydrich, Hitler and most of the others at the top of the Reich hierarchy, also had a clear perspective on Christianity. The following is taken from Kirchliches Jahrbuch fur die evangelische Kirche in Deutschland:

    "National Socialist and Christian concepts are incompatible. The Christian churches build upon the ignorance of the men and strive to keep large portions of the people in ignorance because only in this way can the Christian churches maintain their power. On the other hand, National Socialism is based on scientific foundations. Christianity's immutable principles, which were laid down almost two thousand years ago by Jews, have increasingly stiffened into life-alien dogmas. National Socialism however, if it wants to fulfill its task further, must always guide itself according to the newest data of scientific researchers.

    "When in the future our youth no longer hear anything about this Christianity, whose doctrine is far below our own, Christianity will automatically disappear.

    "When we National Socialists speak of God, by God we do not understand, as do naive Christians and their clerical beneficiaries, a manlike being who is sitting around in some corner of the spheres. Rather, we must open the eyes of mankind to the fact that in addition to our unimportant earth there exist countless other bodies in the universe, many of them surrounded, like the sun, by smaller bodies, the moons. The force which moves all those bodies in the universe, in accordance with Natural Law, is what we call the Eternal, the Allfather or God. The assertion that this world- force can worry about the fate of every individual, every bacillus on earth, and that it can be influenced by so-called prayer or other astonishing things, is is based either on a suitable dose of naivete or on outright commercial effrontery.

    "In contrast we National Socialists call upon ourselves to live as naturally as possible - that is, in keeping with the Laws of Life. The more thoroughly we know and attend to the Laws of Nature and Life, the more we adhere to them, the more do we correspond to the will of the Eternal; the deeper our insight into the will of the Eternal, the greater will be our success.

    "It follows from the incompatibility of National Socialist and Christian concepts that we must oppose any strengthening of existing Christian denominations and must refuse to give them any assistance. We can make no differentiation between the various Christian confessions. Any strengthening of the Christian concepts would merely work against us.

    "To an ever-increasing degree the Folk must be wrested from Christianity and their agents, the pastors. Obviously, the Christians, from their standpoint, will and must defend themselves against this loss of power. But never again must Christianity regain an influence in the leadership of our folk. This must absolutely and finally be broken."


    CHRISTIANITY IN THE THIRD REICH

    Despite the pragmatic and relatively cautious approach the times required, the regime did begin preliminary measures against Christianity. One means was to heathenize the churches from within. A nazified German Christian Faith Movement was formed in opposition to the mainline Protestant churches. Hundreds of pastors of the Confessional Church were arrested in 1937.Catholics were removed from the Civil Service.In 1937 over 100,000 Germans formally left the Catholic Church.

    According to the reliable British historian David Irving (The War Path), "The Nazis discouraged Catholic education in schools, the convents and monasteries were dissolved and their property confiscated, and the Jesuits were driven out of influence everywhere."
    The Hitler Youth sung such verses as, "I am neither Christian nor Catholic/I am for the SA through thin and thick."

    Something of what the regime had in mind for eventually replacing Christ- ianity, with after the war can be deduced from the proposals drawn up in 1942 for the creation of a National Reich Church by leading National Socialist philosopher Alfred Rosenberg. Indeed his own magnum opus The Myth of the Twentieth Century had met such condemnation by the churches since its first publication in 1930. Among the points for a Reich Church were:

    "13. The National Church demands immediate cessation of the publishing and dissemination of the Bible in Germany.

    "14. The Fuhrer’s Mein Kampf is the greatest of all documents...... embodies the purest and truest ethics for the present and future life of our nation.

    "18. The National Church will clear away from its altars all crucifixes, Bibles and pictures of the saints.

    "19. On the altars there must be nothing but Mein Kampf and to the left on the altar a sword.

    "30. On the day of its foundation the Christian cross must be removed from all churches, cathedrals and chapels, and it must be superseded by the Swastika." The priesthoods were to be replaced by orators.


    REFERENCES:

    David Irving The War Path NY 1978
    William Shirer Rise And Fall Of The Third Reich
    Hitler’s Secret Conversations 1941-1944
    Herman Rauschning Hitler Speaks
    Peter Padfield Himmler: Reichsfuhrer SS Macmillan London 1991

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    National Socialist Life
    In Christian Germany
    by Dr. Mike Rose, Ch.D.
    National Socialism is Positive Christianity; no matter how many times men try to change it, there is no difference. A Jewish propaganda book was published in 1995 by The Continuum Publishing Company in New York, entitled Nazi Germany: A New History. The author was Klaus P. Fischer, whose effeminate, Jewish, Humanistic views of Germany under the Third Reich should disgust any truth lover. The book is filled with blatant Jewish lies. Like many of the books printed about Adolf Hitler and the Third Reich, this book depends upon the reader being completely ignorant of National Socialism and the 25 point Party Platform, especially Platform #24, which reads:

    "We demand a freedom of religious confessions in this state, as long as they do not endanger the nation's existence or interfere with the moral sense of the German race. The NSDAP party argues for a positive Christianity, although it is not bound to any single confession. The NSDAP party fights against the Jewish-materialistic spirit in and around us. We are convinced that the healing process of our nation can only be continued on the basis of the principle that public welfare has priority over individual welfare"
    (I Fight, dis. by USM, inc., 1992).

    Yet, in direct contradiction to Hitler's party platform, the antichrist liar Fischer states:
    "The Nazis, on the other hand, had no illusions about the fundamental incompatibility between Christianity and party ideology. ... The Nazis had a metaphysical hatred of Christianity ... [They] planned to de-Christianise the Western world ..." (pg. 359)

    Any intelligent white man can see that Hitler did not despise Christianity, as evidenced simply by reading Mein Kampf. Hitler knew that by safeguarding his race against the Jew he was conducting the will of God:

    "I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the Almighty Creator: By warding off the Jews I am fighting for the Lord's work"
    (Hitler, Mein Kampf, [Chamberlain et. al, editors, 1941, Reynal and Hitchcock, New York], pg. 84).

    "The National Government ... regards Christianity as the foundation of our national morality, and the family as the basis of national life"
    (Hitler, Proclamation to the German Nation at Berlin, February 1, 1933).

    By no means was Hitler the only "anti-Semitic" Christian to arise out of Germany, as Fischer claims he was. He also writes that Adolf Stocker, founder of the Christian Socialist Party in 1878, was "one of the first spokesmen for anti-Semitism in Germany." Not only is this a lie but it proves that Fischer is not a historian at all, but is a Jew seeking to cloud the truth. Germany has always, as it was a Christian nation since it's beginnings, been deeply aware of the Jewish diabolic tactics of usury, mongrelisation, and eventually, degradation of its host nation.

    This can be documented all the way back to Martin Luther. Luther came to realize the Jewish tactics and the mongrelizing effects that the antichrist, Talmudic Jews propagate against true Christianity and the Separated Scriptures, including inventing hundreds of apostate versions of Christianity to the point that people become confused about exactly what the Scriptures say in their original context. Relatively late in his career, Luther came to realize these facts and did everything in his power to warn his race of the facts in the book The Jews and Their Lies:

    "Our people, however, should be on their guard against these hardened, condemned people, (who accuse God of lying and proudly despise the whole world), that they be not misled." (pg. 5)

    "Maybe mild-hearted and gentle Christians believe I am too rigorous and drastic against the poor, afflicted Jews, believing that I ridicule them and treat with much sarcasm. By my word, I am far too weak to be able to ridicule such a Satanic breed." (pg. 17)

    "If I were to baptize a Jew, I should conduct him to the Bridge leading over the River Elbe, I should fasten a stone to his neck and should thrust him into the waters, saying 'I baptize thee in the name of Abraham."(pg. 18)


    In the humble beginnings of National Socialism there were numerous groups and movements that were anti-Jew, including judges and public officials. By no means were the political and religious views concerning the Jews and the principle of racial purity something Hitler conceived on his own, but were the result of men coming to the truth taught in the Scriptures by our God and Saviour Jesus Christ.

    This article, however, is not primarily regarding the Jews like Fischer who continually lie and promote their mongrelizing beliefs through books like these, but is primarily concerned with German life in National Socialist Germany under Hitler and the Third Reich's leadership. Fischer's accounts are, however, compared to the explicit Word of God, which is the very Mind of God recorded in the Greek Scriptures. Fischer's opinions are blatantly anti-White in his portrayal of Hitler as some sort of Charles Manson and the Third Reich as some homosexual brutes seeking to take away all the freedoms the Germans once had under their former Democratic Government, and he makes repeated attempts to slander not only Mr. Hitler but the entire German race by calling them bigots and racists. It, of course, is easy to speak ill of the dead; to malign them with vicious intent. After all, Mr. Hitler and other patriotic Germans are no longer alive to defend themselves. It seems clear that such grossly inaccurate and purposeful misrepresentation of the facts of history, in short, the wilful lying of Mr. Fischer, is nothing more than the act of a snivelling coward, far worse than the vilest child molester. It is tantamount to a depraved fiend, who, to satisfy his sexual perversions, desecrates a Christian graveyard. Fischer's own words about the way of life that the German people had under the leadership of the National Socialist Government, will be compared herein to God's Divine Laws of Establishment.

    All Scriptures quoted will be from the Anointed Standard Translation of the New Testament and the Greek Septuagint (LXX), for we Christian Separatists have thrown off the Jewish shackles of deception and lies. We do not get our "religion" from a bunch of antichrist, mongrel Jews, who not only killed our Saviour in the flesh but still seek to kill God's racially pure children through mongrelisation and other various means by the promotion of their antichrist agenda. True Christianity is not a religion but a way of life, and our way of life does not come from antichrist Jews, including their false, lying, and blasphemous translations of our Scriptures, but come from God. The Jew is a liar and his father is the Devil himself, the original liar. The Jew mongrel is worshiped today by every apostate version of true Christianity and politicians, but according to God, every mongrel, whether Jew or wetback, is worthy only of death. God did not create the mongrel, so it does not deserve the right to exist, since its existence came through the direct violation of God's Word. For more on this, see the Separatist Brief Vol. 3, No. 24, "The Right to Life."

    In the mid 1930's, Adolf Hitler began to implement the policies concerning race that the National Socialist party had promised since the very beginning. This is something non-existent in today's effeminate politicians who promise, promise and promise even more until they are elected and then institute their own mongrelizing agendas in the name of the humanist United Nations. On September 28, 1933, the Third Reich prohibited the employment of non-Aryans and persons married to them from government position. On September 29, 1933, one day later, the Third Reich prohibited Jews from cultural and entertainment enterprises such as art, literature, theatre and film. National Socialist Germany recognized the Jew as a mongrel, an enemy of the state and the German race, the White Race, and as such deserving of no rights. They also recognized the nigger as an animal in the order in which God created him, not on equal status with the white man:

    "It would correspond to the meaning of the most noble in this world if our two Christian churches, instead of annoying the negroes with missions which they neither wish nor understand, would teach our European mankind with kindness but in all earnestness, that with unhealthy parents it is a God-pleasing work to take pity on a healthy, poor little orphan, in order to give him a father and mother, rather than putting a sick child into the world which will bring itself and the rest of the world only misfortune and suffering."
    (Hitler, Mein Kampf, pgs. 607-608)

    According to Fischer, Hitler declared that race pollution was the original sin and that racial mongrelisation was not only disgusting and against God's Divine Laws of Establishment but was murder against the White Race. Indeed he did. Here is what Hitler said so that you can make up your own mind as to his meaning:

    "Blood sin and desecration of the race are the original sin in this world and the end of a humanity which surrenders to it."
    (Mein Kampf, Chap. 10)

    Hitler and Christian Germany recognized that God's laws were written in the laws of nature, such as the Biblical law which states kind after kind. (Gen. 1:11 LXX). This law applies to people and humanoids as well, for the sixth commandment states: "You will not mongrelize." This translation has been proved in Pastor V.S. Herrell's book The Sixth Law of God, which is also available from Herrell Brothers Publishing House. What do the Scriptures say about this? They say Hitler was absolutely right and had full authority to act:

    "You will not mongrelize."
    (Ex. 20:13 LXX; Rom. 13:9 AST)

    "You have heard that it was said to the ancients, 'You will not mongrelize or corrupt the seedline'." (Matt. 5:27 AST)

    "Do not through birthing become unequally yoked with those of a different race or with those without persuasion ... For we are a house of the Living God, even as God said, 'I will dwell in them, and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they will be My people.' 'Because of this, come out
    from among them, and separate, mark off your boundaries and cast them out of your society, and do not have sexual intercourse with an adulterated mongrel, and I will receive you.' 'And I will be a Father to you, and you will be sons and daughters to me, says the Master Omnipotent.' Then having
    these promises, beloved, let us purify ourselves from all mongrelisation of flesh and of mentality, fulfilling separation in the fear of God"
    (II Cor.6:14,16-18-7:1 AST).

    "He shall take for a wife a virgin of his own race."
    (Leviticus 21:13 LXX)

    "And whoever shall lie with a beast, let him die the death; and you shall kill the beast. And whatever woman shall approach any beast to have connection with it, you shall kill the woman and the beast; let them die the death, they are guilty."
    (Leviticus 20:15- 16 LXX)

    "You shall surely set over you a ruler whom Master God shall choose; of your brethren you shall set over you as a ruler; you shall not have power to set over you one of another race because he is not your brother."
    (Deut. 17:15 LXX)

    The Jew Fischer, who sarcastically mocks Hitler's racial beliefs and God's Word, says,

    "... Invariably ethnocentric researchers jumped to the hasty conclusion that skin colour was the chief determinant of biological and, therefore, social superiority." (page 8)

    Hitler and Christian Germany knew God's Divine Laws Of Establishment and Order in God's original cosmotic order of white men, women, children, and Negroes. Skin pigmentation does not determine anything by itself, it is the body to which that skin is attached. Skin pigmentation is a physical sign that is used so that we can discern between our racial kinsman and nigger animals. If man and mankind, those kind like a man, were all God's children and able to be filled with the Mentality of Truth, the Holy Spirit, then there would be no need for skin pigmentation and there would be no need to "not mongrelize" and remain racially pure. God did not tell us to be racially pure just to be mean, but for general purpose. Only a racially pure Adamite can house or hold the Mentality of Separation. Jews like Fischer not only fail to recognize the racial truths in the Scriptures but fail to even see the most obvious signs of kind after kind found in the laws of nature.

    Fischer, also a pro-homosexual, comments on the Third Reich's beliefs regarding homosexuality:

    "It was also Himmler who set up a central registry of all known homosexuals and an office to combat them. Persecution of homosexuals picked up speed in the late 1930's, and many were sent to concentration camps where they were humiliated, tortured, and killed. Probably close to fifteen thousand homosexuals were imprisoned in concentration camps during the Third Reich." (pg. 388)

    Not only did National Socialist Germany believe that homosexuality was a disgusting and ungodly act, but Adolf Hitler would not tolerate it amongst his government. After finding out that the SS Stormtrooper leader Ernst Röhm was threatening to overthrow the new Reich, Hitler and the SS stormed in on the conspirators, and those in charge of arresting Röhm found him in his hotel room lying in bed with another man. Needless to say, he and his other homosexual cronies were executed in what is remembered as The Night of Long Knives. Was Hitler, according to God's Just Word, acting in the defence of his race and nation or was he infringing on individuals' freedom of sexual choice?

    "And you shall not have sexual intercourse with a man as with a woman, for it is an abomination." (Lev. 18:22 LXX)

    "And whoever shall have sexual intercourse with a male as with a woman, they have wrought abomination, let them die the death, they are guilty."
    (Lev. 20:13 LXX)

    "Because of this, God gave them up to dishonourable deaths, for even their females changed natural sex to that opposed to nature; and likewise, the males also forsaking natural sex with the females, burned in their lust towards one another, males with males participating in indecency, and receiving back in themselves the reward which was appropriate for their digression ... that not only are the one practising such things worthy of death, but also those giving consent to the practising of them."
    (Romans 1:26,27,32 AST)

    "Or do you not know that the unjust ones will not inherit the government of God? Do not be led astray, neither prostitutes, nor idolaters, nor mongrelisers, nor effeminates, nor homosexuals ..."
    (I Cor. 6:9 AST)

    "Knowing this, that law is not laid down for a just one but for the lawless and the insubordinate, for the ungodly and failures, for the unsacred and profane ones, for father-murderers and mother-murderers, for men-murderers, for whores, for homosexuals, for man-traders, for liars, for perjurers, and if any other thing opposes sound teaching according to the good message of the reputation of the blessed God, which was entrusted with me."
    (I Tim. 1:9-11 AST)

    In today's Western culture called America, women's so-called "rights" to be equal to men are constantly demanded by effeminate politicians and lesbian feminists. These feminists bitch and moan and demand that their mongrelizing demands be met. Through this antichrist practice of usurping their order in which God created them, which is the same thing as calling God a liar, the Jew has successfully deteriorated the white family and propagates the lie through abortions, homosexuality, effeminates and 'sexual liberation' that it is better to screw mongrels and niggers than to raise an Aryan family, pure and unmongrelised in the reputation of God. The Jew Fischer states:

    "... The Nazis encouraged large families by curtailing women's access to equal opportunities, criminalizing abortion, clamping down on homosexuality, and discouraging prostitution. The Nazis also offered all sorts of monetary incentives to encourage reproduction such as marriage loans, child subsidies, and generous family allowances." (pg. 354)

    This effeminate being, as you will see, belittles and tries to use today's mongrelizing standards in comparison to National Socialist Germany's in an effort to disgust the reader as to the way of life in Germany. This is a hater of God and all that He has declared. Fischer states by his hints and opinions that he is a race- mongrelizing, homosexual-approving, equal rights activist, anti-woman, effeminate God-hater. In other words, he is an antichrist. He is so effeminate that he fails to see or comprehend what a real man is by also declaring:

    "Since he lacked the ability to form loving, intimate ties with women, he preferred the company of males, the world of seriousness and purpose." (pg. 356)

    This lie is so vicious and blatant that this Fischer should have been denied access to a responsible publisher. Mr. Hitler always had an adoring girlfriend or fiancé. He loved and cherished women and there was always female companionship in his life. It is true that Mr. Hitler put the salvation of the great German nation and the racial purification of it first in his life as a priority, but to say that Mr. Hitler did not love and cherish women is utterly ridiculous. On the contrary, it was Mr. Roosevelt who held women in such low esteem. It was Mr. Roosevelt whose wife was a lesbian, and it was Mr. Roosevelt who single-handedly caused and forced the United States into World War II. It was Mr. Roosevelt and his Communist friends and advisors who took the American woman out of her home and threw her into the Jew-controlled work force. While, on the other hand, Mr. Hitler drafted men and women from the over-populated Slavic nations to work in modern cities with hospitals, child-care, and wholesome food, later to be known as and called concentration camps. But true to Mr. Hitler's respect for the German women, there were few German women working as matrons or secretaries at the concentration of labour camps.

    History records very clearly that when Mr. Hitler fought the Jewish Communists for control of the government of Germany, both the man and the woman in the German family had to work from sun-up to sun-down to have bread and potatoes on the table and very little meat. But Hitler changed all of that. He put things back in Germany, that is, put the mother and the grandmother back in the home so they could be wives and mothers. This clearly demonstrates that Mr. Hitler the politician was implementing and enforcing Christian values, policies, and family values wherein women were concerned. As far as the concentration of labour camps, which was the real title for these small cities created sometimes overnight, as in the cases of Oak Ridge, Tennessee, Los Alamos, New Mexico, and other places, history records clearly that Hitler's labour camps were being filled with the backward people of Europe, many of whom who had not seen a privy or commode, most had never had running water, and the vast majority had not had an adequate meal or clothing in well over a decade of an economically depressed Europe, which world Jewry had been putting the squeeze on.

    The truth is that most of the labour camps were, at least initially, to prove to be the salvation of a vast element of the population of Europe. As time wore on, they became small cities of readily available labour. The occupants were well-housed, well-clothed, and well-nourished. This is not to deny that Hitler's labour pool system did not, toward the end of the war, prove to become centres for the spread of disease and places of food shortages just like the rest of Germany because of the relentless allied bombings of supply lines and water reservoirs. Who, indeed, was responsible for those who died in labour camps? Was it really the Third Reich, or was it the international aggressors of the Communist and American democrats who were really responsible for what the Jews have sought to label as the "Holocaust" of World War II? Can it not be fairly argued that it was the Allied and the Jews themselves and their murderous attacks upon the German people that caused the disease and stopped the supply lines of much needed food, clothing, and medicine, which the German government was clearly supplying to the workers in the camps for concentrated labour? What if the shoe had been on the other foot and the Germans had bombed the railroads and cut off all supplies to Oak Ridge, Tennessee, and the people there contracted dysentery and a variety of other diseases that go along with a concentrated number of people? Would it be the American government responsible for the hundreds of thousands of deaths in the American concentration camps, or would history hold the Germans who attacked the Americans and bombed their supply lines responsible for all such deaths caused by cutting off supplies?

    Now, I will discuss Mr. Hitler's sense of duties and his understanding of his role as a Christian man in God's Divine Laws of Establishment, which is the bringing of God's Government to fruition in a physical nation on earth. National Socialist Germany was a government of the Government of God, an Aryan nation of Christians acting in accordance with the Mentality of Separation, God's Word. No, Mr. Hitler was not a womanizing, effeminate humanist and nigger-lover like Billy Clinton, but he was the 7th member of the National Socialist Party and the man who not only brought that party to a reign of power but implemented its just racial and social laws into every day life. He rid the mongrel Jew from the presence of the racially pure Germans and established the only just Christian nation built on the racial preservation of the White Race, freeing it from all forms of Jewish slavery since Jesus the Anointed One established the Government of God. This was done in 12 short years, without compromising God's principles, and he did not do it by womanizing and being an effeminate nigger-lover. The world is a world of seriousness and purpose to a Christian man, who every day of his life is working in the reputation of God to bring about a just nation, a Christian nation, on this earth. This is not done by some Communist, dope addict, effeminate, faggot draft dodger who is busy laughing like an idiot all day with the munchies. Mr. Hitler was a man's man who knew damn well his position and purpose while on this planet in the flesh. Fischer continues,

    "Six of these patterns are especially worth noting. First, males were considered culturally more valuable to the community than females because they safeguarded the nation and fought for its livelihood. Second, the father was regarded as the extension of the king in every German home, ruling by divine right and expecting the rest of the family to obey him unconditionally. Third, the primary role of women was to bear children and accept their roles as homemakers. Fourth, German women were expected to move within a small Lebensraum of their own, the home, but in this limited space they were allowed to hold sway with a very firm hand. Their aim was to maintain an immaculately clean and ordered household. Fifth, marriage roles were strictly dichotomized on most issues. Responsibilities thus devolved on either the husband or the wife, the former being the breadwinner, the latter the homemaker. Shared responsibilities were the exception rather than the norm. Finally, the upbringing of the children was equally stratified since the boys were destined to compete in the world, and the girls were preordained to be homemakers." (pg. 356-357)

    So what's the problem, Jew-boy? Fischer goes on to say: "... The image of the woman cultivated by the Nazis was a traditional one of mother and homemaker." (page 355)

    Magda Goebbels, who was most considered to be the example of how a woman should act and be in accordance to God, was the wife of Joseph Goebbels, who said:

    "The mission of women is to be beautiful and to bring children in the world. This is not at all as rude and unmodern as it sounds. The female bird pretties herself for her mate and hatches the eggs for him. In exchange, the mate takes care of gathering the food, and stands guard and wards off the enemy." (pg. 355)

    It must be understood that the Third Reich did not promote it's terms of being beautiful according to what the Germans referred to as "the product of Western democracies," or the gratifying of the face with cosmetics, but the natural beauty of the Aryan woman in her God-ordained role and her God-given natural affections of motherhood. White is beautiful, not niggers and mongrels as seen on every other Jewish idiot T.V box. The painting of the face for hours with makeup was not what was meant of the term beautiful. Fischer has this to say about the Women's Reich Leader, appointed by Hitler himself:

    "At this time Scholtz-Klink was only thirty-two years of age and had already had eleven children. Physically, she was the stereotype of the Nazi woman: tall and blonde; she was unassuming yet highly opinionated on every subject, proud, and above all, fertile. She believed her own slogans about women, namely, that they are gleichwertig (of equal value), but not gleichartig (equal in kind)...."
    (pg. 357)

    So, was the Third Reich and it's general attitude that the propagation of the White Race and the upbringing of racially pure children was a top priority in the health and well-being of the nation Biblical? Was the restoration of the white family and the distinctive roles of men, women and
    children in accordance with the Word of God? Only a deceived mongrel mentality would deny it, calling God a liar. There are over 25 explicit verses in the New Testament alone that affirm the Reich's belief in the Scriptures concerning family, and the role of men, women and children in accordance with God's Divine Order of Establishment on earth, but I am only going to quote a few; however, I recommend that the reader study all the other verses so that you may come to a full knowledge of truth concerning this all too important subject. First, we read of the orderly arrangement that God has ordained for men and women:

    "Likewise, also, the women in decent clothing with modesty and sensibleness, to adorn themselves, not with plaiting or gold or pearls or expensive clothes, but what becomes women professing fear of God, by means of good actions. Let a woman learn in silence, in all subjection. But I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve, and Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived has become in transgression; she will be saved through childbearing, if they remain in the persuasion and honourable brotherly love and separation with sensibleness. ... aged women likewise in reverent behaviour, not diabolical, not having been enslaved by much wine, teachers of good, that they may train the young women to be lovers of men, lovers of children, sound of mind, pure, homeworkers, good, being subject to their own men that the Word of God be not blasphemed." (I Timothy 2:9-15, Titus 2:3-5 AST)

    "Let the women be silent in the Body Politics, for it is not allowed for them to speak, but let them be subject; as also the law says. But if they desire to learn anything, let them question their own men at home, for it is a shame for women to speak in the Body Politic." (I Cor. 14:34,35 AST)

    "Because a man is the head of the woman, as also the Anointed is the head of the Body Politic, and He is the Saviour of the body. And as the Body Politic are subject to the Anointed, so also the women are to their own men in everything. The men: love your women, even as the Anointed loved the Body Politic, and gave Himself up on behalf of them." (Ephesians 5:23-25 AST)

    "The men: love the women, and do not be bitter toward them." (Col. 3:19 AST)

    "If anyone is unaccusable, one woman and man having children with persuasion not in accusation of debauchery or unruly." (Titus 1:6 AST)

    "Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother and shall cleave to his wife and the two shall be one flesh." (Genesis 2:24 LXX)

    "But anyone who does not provide for his own and especially his family, he has denied his persuasion, and is worse than one without persuasion.... Therefore, I desire younger women to marry, to bear children, to manage the household ..." (I Tim. 5:8, 14 AST).

    It is clearly evident from these Scriptures that Adolf Hitler and the Third Reich were in complete agreement with the Word of God on the roles of white men and women in a Christian society. Men are to provide for their families, just as women are to be child-bearers and homemakers. Women are to be subject to men, just as the Church is subject to the Anointed Jesus. And if women are to participate in a greater society, they must be under the authority of men. We are naturally talking about real Christian men and real Christian women, not liars, hypocrites, and blasphemers. Furthermore, National Socialists follow Biblical teachings concerning children of the Christian nation. The following quotes from the Scripture concern children.

    "Hear, O Israel, The Master our God is one Master. And you will love the Master your God with all your mind, and with all your life, and all your strength. And these words, all that I command you this day, will be in your heart and in your life. And you will teach them to your children, and you will speak of them sitting in the house, and walking by the way, and lying down and rising up." (Deut. 6:4-7 LXX)

    "The children: obey your parents [!]in the Master[!], for this is right.... The children: Obey the parents in all, for this is well-pleasing in the Master." (Eph. 6:1, Col. 3:20 AST)


    I have shown and proven that National Socialism was built on truth, Positive Christianity, or what we call Christian Separatism today, that Adolf Hitler was indeed a Christian, not by Jewish standards but by God's Standards as found in the Final Revelation of God to His chosen race in Jesus Christ the Anointed One, Who wrote the Separated Scriptures penned down in the Greek.

    Regarding Fischer, the bottom line is that if you get your information from Jews, whether historical or concerning religious beliefs, then you are merely a pawn in their game, no matter how hard you try to rationalize it. The Jews are liars and their father was a liar from the beginning (John 8). Our God and Saviour Jesus told us:

    "The thief does not come except that he may steal, and kill, and destroy." (John 10:10 AST)

    We all know that the Jew is not satisfied with just merely creating thousands of false religions to mongrelize the minds of the racially pure, but as we see today he seeks to mongrelize our race into oblivion through discouraging the growth of our race through promoting homosexuality, abortions, and "affirmative action," which makes it hard on the white man to get a job and support the family, and therefore discourages large white families.

    Many in the so-called "White Wing" feel that it would be impossible for this country to turn around, but I point you to Adolf Hitler and the National Socialist Party and what they accomplished. Remember, Germany was in conditions quite similar to our very own. The Party, built on Christianity and racial preservation, rose to great heights never seen before in a country owned and run by Jews. This was not done with political and religious compromises. Hitler recognized this in the rise of Christianity by stating:

    "The greatness of Christianity was not rooted in its attempted negotiations of compromise with perhaps similarly constructed philosophical opinions of the old world, but in the inexorably fanatical preaching and representation of its own doctrine" (Hitler, Mein Kampf, pg. 487).

    Fischer, though he lies and says that Hitler and the Third Reich were anti-Christian and viewed Christianity as cowardly, cannot produce one genuine speech or statement by Mr. Hitler or the Third Reich affirming his lies. On the other hand, there are countless speeches and statements claiming that Hitler was a Christian and that National Socialist Germany was built on Christian Law and principles. These were real Christians who knew their divine roles in this world and life. Life in Germany was in agreement with God's Word and Divine Laws of Establishment, which demand that we separate and keep our race pure. Germany knew that the Jews were the enemies of God and His people and all that He has declared decent. In Prof. D. Cajus Fabricius' book entitled Positive Christianity in the Third Reich, written in 1937 in National Socialist Germany, we find this statement about the Jew:

    "Besides it is clear that the spirit of the Christian Faith has nothing to do with Judaism, we National Socialists are combating." (pg. 22, Herrell Brothers Publishing House)

    Hitler also recognized this when he wrote concerning the Jew in Mein Kampf:

    "But the best stamp is given by the product of this 'religious' education, the Jew himself. His life is really only of this world, and his spirit is as alien to true Christianity, for instance, as his nature was two thousand years ago to the Sublime Founder of the new doctrine. Of course, the latter made no secret of His disposition towards the Jewish people, and when necessary took to the whip in order to drive out of the Lord's temple this adversary of all humanity, who even then as always saw in religion only a means for his business existence." (Hitler, Mein Kampf, pgs. 422-423)

    We are not the servant race to niggers and mongrels, as the Jews in mainstream Churchianity and the "Identity Movement" proclaim. We are God's race, created with the Mind (Spirit) of God abiding in us, as His portion of this Earth, conducting His Will. In His reputation we are to bring about the Government of God into a physical reality, bringing the world under our dominion. Humanists argue that we have no right to "exercise dominion" over what God has authorized those who hold His Mentality and Truth to do, but one billion gooks, niggers and screaming, bra-burning feminists can't change God's Word and His purpose for His race. They may change the diabolical public opinion to oppose God's Word and Just Judgements, but they cannot change or persuade God, for He is the same yesterday, today and forever. (Hebrews 13:8)


    They argue that we have no right to preserve our race from mongrelisation and to establish a nation of the racially pure according to the Just Judgements of God and His Divine Laws of Establishment. We, as Christians, have every right to execute God's Word into action as He has commanded us to do. National Socialism must be found expressed in today's world as a political party, just as in today's world Christian Separatism must be expressed as the only true persuasion. In reality, both are the same - they are the way of life by which we are to live "separated in right thinking" and actions according to the Good Message of Jesus.

    We, as National Socialists and Christians, have the advantage, for we have the Truth, which is the Mentality of Separation, and with the help of Almighty God we can bring our race back to the Truth, for this is God's will for all white men - freedom from the diabolical mind and mental death. This can be done by bringing those of our race to the truth about National Socialism and Germany, that they acted on their God- given authority and adhered to the Word of God as a Christian nation, thus bringing the truths of Christian Separatism in Anointed Jesus, while at the same time enlightening white men to the truth taught in the Scriptures and about God's Government.

    In doing this, men would come to realize and recognize that National Socialism is but the political expression of true Christianity taught in the Scriptures by God. Through this glorious process, Jews and mongrels will be weeded out from our ranks, for they cannot participate. As Jews, mongrels, and white degenerates, they cannot house the Mind of God or even comprehend the true God, nor can they be known of God. In this they manifest themselves as such by their actions and failure to apprehend and act on the truth. There are no mongrels in the Government of God. While at this point in history we are the minority as far as numbers, we are the majority because we have God on our side and the blessings of God are bearing fruits today as more and more of our kinsmen are coming to a full knowledge of truth and bowing the knee to the Father and God Master Jesus Anointed, joining the just ranks of the Separated Ones in the Body Politic of God. The victory has already been won for our race over the Diabolical One; all we have to do is go and grab our trophy. On April 29, 1945, Adolf Hitler told his secretary, as he dictated his last will and testament, that the glorious seed that he planted would eventually blossom forth in a glorious rebirth of National Socialism. He was absolutely right.

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    Post Re: National Socialism and Christianity

    I have read this piece before and it is admirable.

    However, there are some points of discussion here.

    For example, was the 'Positive Christianity' of N-S a sect of that religion?
    It certainly wouldn't be accepted by all the other confessions as being 'Christian' by THEIR standards.

    Also, while one cannot deny the usefulness of utilising a form of Christianity, it is also stated above that freedom of religion is recognised in the Third Reich.
    Presumably this included forms of Nordic/Celtic paganism.

    While Christianity is, [in Nietzsche's words] "Platonism for the People", is it not true that men like Hilter took their spiritual and intellectual sustenance from philosophers such as Schopenhauer?

    Hitler read Schopenhauer so closely that one can understand the ideals of the NSDAP more from that source, rather than from Christianity.

    So I would say that the N-S ELITE are PHILOSOPHERS, not Christians - that is for the rank and file.
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    Moody, if what you say is true; then Hitler and much of the NS leaders were opputurnistic liars who didn't give a damn about ideology at all!

    And as for Nietszche and Schopenhauer, Hitler and many other NS leaders condemned their theories. Eckart himself said that Nietszche was an insult to the German nation and that NS had nothing to do with him.

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    Post Re: National Socialism and Christianity

    Quote Originally Posted by Pushkin
    Moody, if what you say is true; then Hitler and much of the NS leaders were opputurnistic liars who didn't give a damn about ideology at all!

    And as for Nietszche and Schopenhauer, Hitler and many other NS leaders condemned their theories. Eckart himself said that Nietszche was an insult to the German nation and that NS had nothing to do with him.
    Religion and ideology are not the same thing; this is where you make the mistake.

    It is possible to be a Christian, Muslim, Pagan, or a Philosopher, and STILL follow the ideology of National Socialism.

    This is what you don't seem to understand.

    Just because a Christian can square his principles with N-S does not mean that N-S is therefore exclusively Christian! Indeed, there was much N-S criticism of the Christian church.

    The NSDASP elite were in the main of a philosopohical bent, but they knew the importance of religion for the masses - this does not make them 'opportunistic liars'; they just knew that the average man is not capable of the sort of reasoning necessary for philosophy and is therefore better off following religious dogmas.

    Pushkin, there is no evidence of Hitler condemning Nietzsche and Schopenhauer [both ATHEISTIC philosophers] - so why do claim that there is?

    Produce your evidence!

    The Third Reich allowed a variety of opinions to form and there were dissenting views. So while some N-S no doubt had some qualms about certain aspects of Nietzsche's philosophy, this is not true of the important figures in N-S philosophy, such as Hitler, Rosenberg and Heidegger.

    However, no such quibbles can be found as regarding Schopenhauer who was the favourite philosopher of both Wagner and Hitler, and so CENTRAL to NSDAP philosophy.

    Hitler read Schopenhauer constantly throughout WWI, and Hitler's secretary says that the Fuhrer was in the habit of quoting Schopenhauer from memory.

    Schopenhauer's philosophy of Will [taken in another direction by Nietzsche's Will to Power] was central to NSDAP Philosophy.

    National Socialism is a doctrine of WILL, and Hitler was its perfect personification.
    Christianity, by its normal interpretation, is not a religion of Will - far from it!
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    Post Re: National Socialism and Christianity

    Hitler actually planned to destroy Christianity.

    From William Shirer's book - the Rise and Fall of the Third Reich (written by a non jew - his words not mine) it describes how Hitler planned to set up a "National Reich Church" in a 30 step plan after the war, where Mein Kampf was read from instead of the bible - ("to the Fuhrer and therefore to God the most sacred book") swastikas were to be hung around the church hall and priests and pastors were to be killed and replaced by "National Reich orators"...hmm, doesn't sound too Christian now does it?

    There was also a "German Christian" movement in Nazi Germany which demanded that "the teachings of Jesus be re-written to comply completely with the demands of National Socialism" and that the "old testament, with its tales of cattle merchants and pimps, be removed"...

    mmm, wonderful God-fearing Christian nazis!

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    Post Re: National Socialism and Christianity

    Quote Originally Posted by gorgeousgal2k2
    Hitler actually planned to destroy Christianity.

    From William Shirer's book - the Rise and Fall of the Third Reich (written by a non jew - his words not mine) it describes how Hitler planned to set up a "National Reich Church" in a 30 step plan after the war, where Mein Kampf was read from instead of the bible - ("to the Fuhrer and therefore to God the most sacred book") swastikas were to be hung around the church hall and priests and pastors were to be killed and replaced by "National Reich orators"...hmm, doesn't sound too Christian now does it?

    There was also a "German Christian" movement in Nazi Germany which demanded that "the teachings of Jesus be re-written to comply completely with the demands of National Socialism" and that the "old testament, with its tales of cattle merchants and pimps, be removed"...

    mmm, wonderful God-fearing Christian nazis!
    But then there are plenty of positive mentions of Christianity in Mein Kampf; so if MK was to replace the Bible, there would still have been an undercurrent of Christianity - Positive Christianity [i.e., an Aryan version of Christianity].

    So while there is evidence that Hitler wanted a Germanised Christianity, this is not to say that Christianity would have been eliminated.
    Look how Christianity was altered by the English with their breakaway Church of England all those centuries ago.

    No doubt a kind of 'Nazi Xtianity' would have evolved, but I feel that this would have been a synthesising movement and would have incorporated pro-Aryan elements from paganism etc.,
    Essentially, religion was to be a matter of private conscience as long as the religion was not anti-Aryan.

    Along these lines, I would like to ask the Catholics here what they think of Protestants ...

    Hitler took a dim view of sectarianism which pits Aryan against Aryan [as in Ulster today].

    In all of this, remember that the most important aspect of N-S is BLOOD AND SOIL - religious denominations must take a back-seat to that.
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    Actually in many places the Church of England is different only in name to the Catholic Church. Ever been to Walsingham?

    There is a world of difference between allowing divorce and replacing the bible.

    remove the key elements of christianity and it can't be called christianity any more. Same goes for any religion which is why calling Christianity a "jewish religion" is such a hopeless deluded thing to say.
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    Post Re: National Socialism and Christianity

    Quote Originally Posted by gorgeousgal2k2
    Actually in many places the Church of England is different only in name to the Catholic Church. Ever been to Walsingham?

    There is a world of difference between allowing divorce and replacing the bible.
    You miss the historical context.
    Even the most MINUTE differences in doctrine could lead to a burning back then.
    Tyndale was burnt for the sin of translating the Bible into English - wars were fought over the most subtle differences of Biblical interpretation.
    Look at the persecution of heresy! - heresies which to us seem so trivial in their divergence from the mainstream that we cannot understand why men and women would kill each other over them.

    When the Pope was removed as sole authority and replaced by the English Monarch, this lead to the Pope urging Catholic states to make war with England - witness Spain's Armada!

    So in religious terms the Reformation was a far more revolutionary change than any 'German Christianity' of the Third Reich!

    The reason is not hard to find - in the 15th century religion dominated European politics; by the 20th century, it didn't [and this is what Pushkin etc., will never understand]. So much so that Goering could dismiss the Pope with - "how many divisions does he have?"

    So Nazism was not a religious reformation but a POLITICAL one.
    In that context, Christianity is not so ... important.
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    i know religion dominated european politics.

    its ridiculous to us today but come on most reasonable people now - not then - would call a christian a christian whether they were catholics protestants or whatever.

    jehovahs witnesses and certain cults are not considered christian even tho they think of themselves as christians today.

    its the same with this so called national reich church. people would never accept it as christian and they would just laugh at you if you tried to give yourself that label.

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