View Poll Results: How bad is the immigration situation in your country?

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Thread: How Serious Is Your Immigration Situation and What Is the General Attitude Towards Immigrants in Your Country?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki
    I don't want to believe this, but it may be true. What is the source of this statistic?
    I definitely think it is true. Apparently only 30 % of all children born in Sweden are fully Swedish. It is very sad and very scary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vikinkur
    Two out of Three newborn "babies" in Sweden are non-whites.
    (do the math)
    I also like to see where you found that information so please, give me that source, i like to check it my self before i belive it.

    Statistiscs from www.integrationsverket.se and their database:

    2003
    • People born outside Sweden, have lived in Sweden between 0-4 years: 202 020
    • People born outside Sweden, have lived in Sweden for 5 years and more: 876 055
    • People born in Sweden with both parents born outside the country: 315 132
    • People born in Sweden with at least one parent born in the country: 7 582 463
    Swedens population is now little over 9 million.

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    More statistics about swedish Population statistics, i hope this link works now:

    http://www.ssd.scb.se/databaser/makr...=be0101&lang=2

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    Quote Originally Posted by VÄRING
    I definitely think it is true. Apparently only 30 % of all children born in Sweden are fully Swedish. It is very sad and very scary.
    I am very saddened by all of this. My personal view is that Sweden belongs only to those people with four ethnic Swedish grandparents!! But how many are those... ? A real tragedy. :frown:

    If we don't take urgent steps to ensure the isolation and survival of the real, pure Swedes, then within a few decades we will only read about Swedes in history books - they are about to go extinct.

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    Naja, there will be no need for "history books" anymore, Islam has only need for one book , the Koran. There is this little nice fact to show how "advanced" and "cultural" the nationstate of Islam is, the collective annual output of books in the entire world of Islam is LESS than what the nation of Greece puts out every year. :

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki
    I am very saddened by all of this. My personal view is that Sweden belongs only to those people with four ethnic Swedish grandparents!! But how many are those... ? A real tragedy. :frown:

    If we don't take urgent steps to ensure the isolation and survival of the real, pure Swedes, then within a few decades we will only read about Swedes in history books - they are about to go extinct.
    I think current Swedish citizenship should be divided into the following categories:

    Class I: Individuals with four ethnic Swedish grandparents.
    Class II: Individuals with four Germanic Scandinavian grandparents (Swedish, Norwegian, Danish, Icelandic, Faroese).
    Class III: Individuals with four Germanic, Scottish, Irish or Finnish grandparents (all Scandinavian, plus German, Dutch, English, Scottish, Irish, Finnish, etc).
    Class IV: Individuals with four European grandparents (all Germanic, southern European and Slavic, etc).
    Class V: Individuals with any number of non-European or mixed-race grandparents.

    In my opinion, Class I citizens should receive additional state benefit, and financial incentives to have more children.

    Class V citizens should be placed under a new programme of resettlement to where they originate from, and of course this will be state-sponsored with generous financial incentives in order to get them to leave the country as soon as possible. They will be strictly prohibited from engaging in any sexual activity with higher class citizens.

    Of course I propose this for countries like Norway and Denmark too... without such a caste system, Scandinavia as we know it will be lost forever pretty soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vikinkur
    Svensk fientlig statestik skall du inte lita på, de kan rakt av ljuga ofta med någon sorts andra hands logik.
    Jag anser inte att det där är svenskfientlig statistik...kanske du skulle kika lite på SCBs sida och kolla upp lite statistik där.
    Statistik KAN vara missvisande om man inte är van att hantera den...Jag litar dock på SCBs siffror tills vidare då jag inte får göra någon undersökning i frågan själv.

    I SCBs databas kan du även hitta utomeuropeisk invandring till Sverige osv.

    Jag använder mig inte av bara en källa när jag avläser statistik, utan flera...och det kan vara ett tips till dig att göra det samma.

    Och för din kännedom, så besöker även jag NDs sida samt har kontakt med människor i ledande position i ND, så jag vet mycket väl vad de skriver och talar om...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vikinkur
    Hur stor del av "barnen" är Svenskar då enligt din statistik?

    Edit; Det är jävligt lätt att lura sig, vilket färre skulle göra om de var lite ödmjuka, du kan förståss titta på Tv också eller?
    Min statistik? Jag får inte utföra en statistisk uträkning och det vet du mycket väl att man inte får göra som enskild person i Sverige...

    Och vad jag kan eller inte kan göra, det har du inget med att göra.

    Ja, det är lätt att lura både sig själv och andra...och vad har ödmjukhet med detta att göra?
    Blir statistiken bättre om man är ödmjuk eller...

    Vad du än gör, provocera mig inte med små antydningar om det ena eller andra...

    Det var jag och ingen annan som fick översätta ditt mail när du blev bannad förra gången och jag fick även en förfrågan om jag tyckte bannen skulle tas bort...vilket jag var positiv till....men jag kommer inte att vara lika postiv om du börjar provocera mig genom små gliringar som ovan...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vikinkur
    I don't knew what you want to show with these figures?

    Of course if you count the history in, born Swedes accounts for more than 1/3... :
    Maybe you should check the other link i posted, maybe you understand all those numbers better...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki
    I think current Swedish citizenship should be divided into the following categories:

    Class I: Individuals with four ethnic Swedish grandparents.
    Class II: Individuals with four Germanic Scandinavian grandparents (Swedish, Norwegian, Danish, Icelandic, Faroese).
    Class III: Individuals with four Germanic, Scottish, Irish or Finnish grandparents (all Scandinavian, plus German, Dutch, English, Scottish, Irish, Finnish, etc).
    Class IV: Individuals with four European grandparents (all Germanic, southern European and Slavic, etc).
    Class V: Individuals with any number of non-European or mixed-race grandparents.

    In my opinion, Class I citizens should receive additional state benefit, and financial incentives to have more children.

    Class V citizens should be placed under a new programme of resettlement to where they originate from, and of course this will be state-sponsored with generous financial incentives in order to get them to leave the country as soon as possible. They will be strictly prohibited from engaging in any sexual activity with higher class citizens.

    Of course I propose this for countries like Norway and Denmark too... without such a caste system, Scandinavia as we know it will be lost forever pretty soon.
    I agree with this. My ideas are that non assimilable citizens should have their citizenship withdrawn and that migrants of the same sort should not be granted citizenship. Otherwisre i have nothing against migrants that are of related stock.

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