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    You take good care Beowulf.Indeed no dark-skinned "man" goes out on the countryside without some very dubios reason.If I saw such scum outside my door after midnight, or even at day time I would rather strike out first and ask later since chances are big that such an visit was in evil ambition.Several swedish elderly farmers living alone in scarcely populated areas on the countryside in Sweden has been brutally murdered by foreigners as of late.The bastards, I almost hope they would come home to me and try to rob and murder me instead of going after elderlies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FurstMyjskin
    You take good care Beowulf.Indeed no dark-skinned "man" goes out on the countryside without some very dubios reason.If I saw such scum outside my door after midnight, or even at day time I would rather strike out first and ask later since chances are big that such an visit was in evil ambition.Several swedish elderly farmers living alone in scarcely populated areas on the countryside in Sweden has been brutally murdered by foreigners as of late.The bastards, I almost hope they would come home to me and try to rob and murder me instead of going after elderlies.
    :eek:I sincerely hope you take care of yourself! Did you see this? http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=4191

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    How Serious Is Your Immigration Situation and What Is the General Attitude Towards Immigrants in Your Country?

    your countries?

    what are the laws about the legalization of immigration?

    Maybe the most famous case is France for me i've heard that about 15% of their population now are Africans and muslims. I've watched new about immigration in France, England, Spain and at a lesser extent Germany (there are many immigrants there).



    And finally how the govermment support immigration? Also saying that is better for the economy?




    Making Room

    Argentina finds a place for its local immigrants.


    By Brian Byrnes
    Newsweek International


    Sept. 11, 2006 issue - The fire that swept through a Buenos Aires textile plant on March 30, killing six Bolivian immigrants, left behind more than wreckage. The victims of the sweatshop blaze had no permits to work in Argentina, and their deaths pushed the government of President Néstor Kirchner to start up an innovative program that encourages illegal immigrants to register with local authorities. Known as Patria Grande (Greater Fatherland), the scheme offers a two-year residence visa to foreigners who have no criminal record and can prove they are citizens of countries affiliated with the Mercosur trading bloc. The response has been overwhelming: more than 200,000 applications have been processed since Patria Grande was unveiled on April 17, and each weekday morning hundreds and even thousands of undocumented immigrants queue up outside consulates and other government-approved offices to fill out the requisite paperwork. "Overall, this is a step in the right direction," says Juan Carlos Acero, a 26-year-old native of La Paz who moved to Argentina in 2001 and now works as a construction laborer. "This will benefit those of us who work hard and support our children."
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    It benefits Argentina, too. Officials contend that in addition to reducing black-market labor and discrimination, the registration program will help make Argentina's porous borders more secure, and bring in much-needed tax funds. "I think this is a good idea that deserves to be studied," says José Miguel Insulza, secretary-general of the Organization of American States in Washington.


    Argentina's openness derives in part from the South American nation's historical background: millions of immigrants from Spain and Italy arrived in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, and the same country that gave refuge to Nazi war criminals after World War II is also host to the largest Jewish population in the Western Hemisphere outside of the United States. The Patria Grande program is a product of principle as well. When he took office three years ago, Kirchner identified immigration as one of the human-rights issues he would emphasize, and under his leadership about 400,000 foreigners have been granted residence visas, more than double the number between 1993 and 2003.




    Some skeptics argue that legalizing undocumented foreigners, estimated to number between 700,000 and 1 million, takes jobs away from native Argentines. That's a touchy issue in a country where unemployment soared to 22 percent during the 2002 recession. But government officials counter that a booming economy has slashed that figure in half, and most Argentines don't want the menial jobs in construction and agriculture that foreigners are willing to take. "To have registered and legal migrant workers doesn't diminish work opportunities for Argentines," argues government immigration chief Ricardo Rodríguez. "On the contrary, it helps to improve working conditions and salaries." And that's not all: immigrants who sign up with Patria Grande also gain access to a spectrum of social services, like public schools and hospitals. When it comes to humane immigration policies, Argentina would seem to have few peers.

    © 2006 Newsweek, Inc.

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    Re: Immigration situation here and question how bad is in...

    This is amnesty and appeasement plain and simple. The break down of the Rule of Law, Sovereignty, and Security comes from the weakness of a culture and lack of National Will of its people and so-called leaders. It is a ridiculous notion that a nation does not have "willing workers" to do the lower jobs of society. Clear out the welfare rolls and put the uneducated to work doing jobs that the higher motivated citizens are more educated not to do, sure. However, importing millions of foreigners spells disaster to Nationdom later on. For public works projects, clear out the jails and put prisoners on chain gangs digging ditches and busting rock. The market will drive the rest. As for an incentive to turn in illegal aliens hired illegally by massive corporations, issue an ultimatum to turn in all illegal foreigners immediately or else the respective CEO's of these violating corporations shall be stripped of their citizenship, all assets shall be siezed and placed on public auction, and they shall deported to a third world hellhole never to return to their homeland again. Yank a couple corporate moguls off the golf course or out of the massage parlor and dump their buts off in the middle of Sudan should work rather well, in my humble estimation. Is that incentive enough?

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    Re: The Immigration Situation Here: How Bad is it in Your Countries?

    The immigration situation isn't that bad here in Finland; we have much less immigrants than in most Western European countries. Rural areas are usually 100% white (if we don't count gypsies). But it is getting worse: the government supports immigration mainly because they fear "a pensioner bomb". After the second world war there was a baby boom in Finland and now the people who were born in the late 1940's, are soon too old for work. That's why the government says that we need more immigrant workers.

    I think that we should start a new baby boom in Europe.
    The population growth in the third world countries is so great that non-whites are flooding to Europe. Why should we suffer from them! Someone should teach the negroes to use condoms!

    Every immigrant from a poor country increases the exploitation of natural resources because the standard of living here is so high when compared to the developing countries. I personally think that the great population growth in the third world countries is the biggest problem in the world.
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    Re: The Immigration Situation Here: How Bad is it in Your Countries?

    I think that in the U.S illegal immigration is more of a problem than legal immigration. In the United States its pretty bad. We have something like 12 million illegals in the country and they just keep coming. The U.S government has approved the construction of a 700 mile long fence along the border which is something like 1300 or 1500 miles, I forget.
    I think that the best solution for illegal immigration is to integrate them into their host country or society, mine being the United States. Instead of deporting illegals which is a waste of money since they keep coming back, we should have them take mandatory classes and programs to become citizens. They should also learn English, not bare nessceities but almost fluent English. This would most likley be problamatic with the government and people will use the Constitution to protect their rights and freedoms. We're not forcing them to speak English, we want them [I]to be able to[I] speak English for communicative purposes. Unfourtantley people don't see how this will help the United States and will complain about it. This will make illegal immigrants and legal immigrants alike contributors, not dead weight and a financial annoyance. Plus I'm really sick of seeing everything in Spanish like in textbook glossaries, signs and everything else. I quote my 8th grade Social Studies teacher on the issue of language in America "It drives me BONKERS!"

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    Mad Re: The Immigration Situation Here: How Bad is it in Your Countries?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainHook View Post
    I think that the best solution for illegal immigration is to integrate them into their host country or society, mine being the United States. Instead of deporting illegals which is a waste of money since they keep coming back, we should have them take mandatory classes and programs to become citizens. They should also learn English, not bare nessceities but almost fluent English. This would most likley be problamatic with the government and people will use the Constitution to protect their rights and freedoms. We're not forcing them to speak English, we want them [i]to be able to[i] speak English for communicative purposes. Unfourtantley people don't see how this will help the United States and will complain about it. This will make illegal immigrants and legal immigrants alike contributors, not dead weight and a financial annoyance. Plus I'm really sick of seeing everything in Spanish like in textbook glossaries, signs and everything else. I quote my 8th grade Social Studies teacher on the issue of language in America "It drives me BONKERS!"
    You're talking multicultural nonsense. The only solution to illegal immigration is to deport them, at gunpoint if necessary. The reason we have 12 million or 20 million or however many illegals is because we do not enforce the immigration laws. And we should start prosecuting employers of illegal aliens. To save money on penal expenses I suggest we farm out the offending employers to overseas prisons in places like Haiti or Vietnam.
    Integrating non-Europids into American society will have the effect of turning America into a nation with a majority population of mixedraced mongrels. We should pursue a policy of racial seperatism & encourage non-Europids to emigrate elsewhere.

    I noticed your ethnicity is Armenian. Many "ethnic Whites" are uncomfortable in a society that is dominated by persons of Germanic/Celtic ancestry & support immigration & multiculturalism because they are not part of the majority culture. Maybe this is why you support the browning of America.

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    Re: The Immigration Situation Here: How Bad is it in Your Countries?

    Madoc, you amuse me. I'm not advocating bi-racial familes and mixed race relations but I'm not for your racial purity of America. I think that people have the right to do what they want like marry people of other ethnicities and races and they also have the right not to. You can keep your beliefs and have a family based on them but others don't have to. You say that I'm advocate muliculturalism because I'm Armenian, but I also didn't say that I was part Irish English and German as well.

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    Re: The Immigration Situation Here: How Bad is it in Your Countries?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainHook View Post
    Madoc, you amuse me. I'm not advocating bi-racial familes and mixed race relations but I'm not for your racial purity of America. I think that people have the right to do what they want like marry people of other ethnicities and races and they also have the right not to.
    Not pro but not against.
    You can keep your beliefs and have a family based on them but others don't have to. You say that I'm advocate muliculturalism because I'm Armenian, but I also didn't say that I was part Irish English and German as well.
    Ah, you advocate multiculturalism because you're multicural! : I'd expect better from a pure Armenian!
    How brave to adopt such a stance as yours in the present PC climate. Why exactly are you here, again?

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    Re: The Immigration Situation Here: How Bad is it in Your Countries?

    To share information and ideas, and to learn about other peoples thoughts like yours. Also I've never seen a forum like this before, there are so many subjects! I doubt there are many pure Armenians left due to assimilation from hundreds of years of invasions and occupation from other empires.

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