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  • Pretty bad.

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  • Could be worse.

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Thread: How Serious Is Your Immigration Situation and What Is the General Attitude Towards Immigrants in Your Country?

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    Re: The immigration situation : how bad is it in your country?

    It's pretty bad but it could be worse.

    I guess we're slowly but steadily getting there, though

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    Re: The immigration situation : how bad is it in your country?

    Paranoia! I say it's awesome! Couldn't be better! Wait! Last incredible news broadcasted by the Ministry of Truth : "Success of integration in France! Less immigrants than ever! No connection between immigration and criminality! French people always demanding more immigrants! Immigration? A richness!"
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    Re: The immigration situation : how bad is it in your country?

    Quote Originally Posted by Weg View Post
    Paranoia! I say it's awesome! Couldn't be better! Wait! Last incredible news broadcasted by the Ministry of Truth : "Success of integration in France! Less immigrants than ever! No connection between immigration and criminality! French people always demanding more immigrants! Immigration? A richness!"
    And those are the news by the Ministry of Truth ?
    My french friend I mentioned before before arriving at Argentina lived in Réunion Island (near Madagascar). He told me that they decided to live in Argentina because they couldn't stand too much negroes going around, and that in continental France the criminality is awfully high due to immigrants and their descendants. He said that here he felt better, so imagine the situation (Argentina's situation is not the best actually).

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    Re: The immigration situation : how bad is it in your country?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mazorquero View Post
    And those are the news by the Ministry of Truth ?
    Along those lines. Listen to the media and you start believing everything's fine. Walk in the streets, talk to your average guy in your neighborhood, read between the lines of all those news and then you realize they are a bunch of lying crooks. Ho wait, some another breaking news coming through my ears : "Miscegenation makes smarter and handsome! You have to try." (this one is actually suggested)

    My french friend I mentioned before before arriving at Argentina lived in Réunion Island (near Madagascar). He told me that they decided to live in Argentina because they couldn't stand too much negroes going around, and that in continental France the criminality is awfully high due to immigrants and their descendants. He said that here he felt better, so imagine the situation (Argentina's situation is not the best actually).
    I can't understand why people find creoles cool. They are no cool, they are annoyingly slowww. I would imagine Amerindians to be less harmfull than Negroids. Reminds me of those of those small Amerindians I'm seeing more and more playing music all over the French territory... And guess what. They even seem to find local sexual parteners. I dont think there's a single place in the world which has not its community here.
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    Re: The immigration situation : how bad is it in your country?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blood_Axis View Post
    It's pretty bad but it could be worse.

    I guess we're slowly but steadily getting there, though
    What countries of origin?

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    Re: The immigration situation : how bad is it in your country?

    It is funny an Argentinian opened this thread. Argentinians have spread like a plague through Europe. In any case I would vote every natural of a SouthAmerican country to be dispatched as soon as possible to his country by any means and special police measures agaisnt Latin gangs, well not only gangs but bands, pretended writers, poets and shrinks.

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    Re: The immigration situation : how bad is it in your country?

    Quote Originally Posted by J.B. Basset View Post
    It is funny an Argentinian opened this thread. Argentinians have spread like a plague through Europe. In any case I would vote every natural of a SouthAmerican country to be dispatched as soon as possible to his country by any means and special police measures agaisnt Latin gangs, well not only gangs but bands, pretended writers, poets and shrinks.
    But what kind of Argentinians? I'm sure you will say that they look like any other Latino and/or they are very annoying, the very sign of our present decadence . I can't blame you, the image those "compatriots" are showing about my nation are not exactly what an Argentinian is, but is logical that you believe that they are a plague, because those who abbandoned their land were a plague here too. Everything started with the bunch of "negros" and "zurditos" (leftists) who auto-exiliated during the last dictatorship here (I'm not saying that I'm happy with that dictatorship, all the contrary, but those leftists were worse), and everything continued with "democracy" at an alarming rate.
    Once upon a time, a nation proud of its European roots, nowadays a country becoming another latino "republiqueta".
    I hope that the Argentinian members here can convince you that we are different from what you see everyday (I consider myself a somewhat average Argentinian), just search some of our posts here.
    I'm sure our friend Here can tell you better about racial distribution among Argentinians. However, I can tell you that miscegenation is augmenting, and there will be no hope if we continue with this lefty-liberal government.

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    Re: The immigration situation : how bad is it in your country?

    Are there any historical or scholarly works that have studied the good/detrimental effects of Cyrus' opening up persia to the jews?

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    Re: The immigration situation : how bad is it in your country?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mazorquero View Post
    Everything started with the bunch of "negros" and "zurditos" (leftists) who auto-exiliated during the last dictatorship here (I'm not saying that I'm happy with that dictatorship, all the contrary, but those leftists were worse), and everything continued with "democracy" at an alarming rate.
    Well, yes, Argentinians emigrating to Europe during the 70s 80s and even 90s were mostly leftist of the worst kind. And they were political exiliades so that's another kind of immigration.

    Anyway, they weren't many, there was about a 2 thousands of political refugees and about a few thousands in the short economic crisis in 2000-2001. We have had a positive migration rate since... ever!, which means we received much more immigrants compared to than people from the country who emigrate.

    In any case I would vote every natural of a SouthAmerican country to be dispatched as soon as possible to his country by any means and special police measures agaisnt Latin gangs, well not only gangs but bands, pretended writers, poets and shrinks.
    I honestly doubt that Argentinians (and I mean real Argentinians and not the children of immigrants who are immigration to Argentina and many of them then to some European countries) joined latin gangs. First most Latin AMeircans really hate Argentinians at the point that has became dangerous to visit some places, maybe the only people who don't hate us are Uruguayans (and that's probably because Uruguay is practically an extension of Argentina).
    Second, the only important (if we could call it important) immigration to europe from Argentina was during the 2000-2001short crisis, so the were only a few thousands, most of the people emigrating were middle class profesional people, with citizenship and family there, and they emigrated because of the devaluation, a dollar didn't mean a peso anymore but 2 and they didn't want to have less valuated wages or profits. I really doubt that these people joined something like a latin gang... . And on the other hand practically all the Argentinians who emigrated to Europe at that time went to Italy and Spain, and they were ethnic spanish or italians with citizenship so i don't know were the problem is in the first place. At the time of the crisis in 2000 you could find signs of lawers offering their services to tramite the Italian, Spanish and Polish citizenship. But of course you have to be from Italian, Spanish or Polish family to get the citrizenship, embbassies to get the citizenship, so again what everybody said back then was that these countries have the duty to received these immigrants as a recompensation because, our country received not a few thousands but millions of starving nationals from these countries, during the 19th century and early 20th, and even a few decades ago during the Spanish Civil specially from Galicia and during the WW2 in the 1940s. Besides the ones going to Europe during the 2000 were children or grandchildrens of these immigrants with citizenship.
    I hardly doubt that you could said the same of other immigrats. Anyway, again the emigrations of those 2 years 2000-2001 was a stange thing in our history and many books have beenwritten in these four years about it. I owned a couple.
    in short, in the case of Argentinians i hardly doubt you could get rid of them frost because most own the european citizenship and besides in fact an article was in the pepers a time ago about the amount of Argentines whi took the EU citizenship and tho most people has double citizenship, many opted for reject their Argentine citizenship because they were so angry with the govermment (it's a long story...). So they aren't Argentines anymore in the first place lol. It's a cultural thing you¿ll probably find hard to understand anyway,
    Argentines despite the mix of ancestries and languages, can be fiercely nationalistic, but at the first problem with a govermment they start insulting their own country.


    anyway, like i said before our problem always was the immigration, you can compare a few thousands of emigrants in 2001 and in the 70s with the more thatn two millions immigrants, mostly of noneuropean, that we have now.
    The few persons i know living in Spain and Italy are persons whose parents come here from Europe in a much worse situation because of the war. Two of them marry Spanish who are darker than thewm in fact, asicne they are ethnic Galicians.
    Anyway, even in 2001 we keep receiving immigrants from countries that even when we were ina crisis we were in a better situation that their countries, I have an Ukranian friend who once told me my family came in the middle of the crisis in 2001 with people protesting in the streets what we wouldn't have came back to my country, here you have oportunities there you don't had a chance of anything.
    And now that our economy is again better, the immigration problem has became again even worse.

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    Re: The immigration situation : how bad is it in your country?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arrian View Post
    Are there any historical or scholarly works that have studied the good/detrimental effects of Cyrus' opening up persia to the jews?
    Gumilev puts much of the Mazdakite trouble to their blame. I don't think you'll find this in English, however.

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