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    Cool Need Help Classifying Some Nordish People!

    Im making a small gallery of Brazillian celebrities that have different European sub-races for another forum, i already have plenty of meds and some apines and dinarics as well, but now im making the nordish gallery, plz tell me if you think my classification is inacurate or if you think the person is not nordish at all.

    Nordish:
    Paulo Nigro (Keltic Nordic?)


    Miguel Falabella: (Keltic Nordic?)


    Augusto Liberato: (Borreby)


    Mariana Ximenes: (Fälish)


    Vera Fisher: (i don't know how to classify her, she kinda looks the Hallstatt Nordic Lise Nilsen, but her hair isn't blond enough to be a H. Nordic IMO, here is another adult picture of her for classification, click if you are only 18+)


    Angélica Kysvickis: (her face is long, kinda like a dinaric, but she has nordish features such as light eyes and hair, therefore i think she is a noric)

    here is another picture of her

    Gisele Bundchen: (Keltic Nordic)


    Carolina Dieckmann: (Sub-Nordic, she looks like the subnordics from nordish.com)

    here is another picture of her

    Types that im not sure how to classify
    daniela cicarelli (don't know how to classify her, maybe a med-nordic mixture)

    more pictures of her
    pic1
    pic2

    luana piovani (i think she is a med with lighter hair and eyes, but not nordish)

    a larger picture of her
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    Post Re: need help classifying some nordish people!!!

    A lot of them have Italian family names, nice

    "E tutti si scandalizzano quando sentono dire: quel tale tipo di mammifero o di uccello ormai è sparito dalla faccia della terra, non lo vedremo più; è una grave perdita. Certo, si tratta di gravissime perdite.
    Ma non sarebbe forse più grave se sparisse una comunità umana?? --Bruno Salvadori

    Seven pictures of northern European males and seven pictures of northern African males were presented randomly via a computer screen to 82 Italian female undergraduates of the University of Padua, Italy.
    Each picture depicted a full frontal face with a neutral facial expression. Participants were asked to classify each picture as either northern Italian or southern Italian.
    On average, the seven pictures depicting northern Europeans were classified as northern Italians 81% of the time. The seven pictures depicting northern Africans were classified as southern Italians 83%
    of the time.



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    Post Re: need help classifying some nordish people!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Gesta Bellica
    A lot of them have Italian family names, nice
    there is a lot of Italian descendents in Brazil, from Sicilians to Lombardians, the Italians are one of the main European groups to move here, check the full gallery there are some others Italo-Brazilians there too: http://nbbmed.proboards27.com/index....314731&start=0

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    Post Re: need help classifying some nordish people!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Necronomicom
    there is a lot of Italian descendents in Brazil, from Sicilians to Lombardians, the Italians are one of the main European groups to move here, check the full gallery there are some others Italo-Brazilians there too: http://nbbmed.proboards27.com/index....314731&start=0
    Interesting gallery!!
    By the way i have heard that in Curitiba there are really few blacks and that the majority of people there is of Portuguese, Italian, German and Japanese descents..is it true?

    "E tutti si scandalizzano quando sentono dire: quel tale tipo di mammifero o di uccello ormai è sparito dalla faccia della terra, non lo vedremo più; è una grave perdita. Certo, si tratta di gravissime perdite.
    Ma non sarebbe forse più grave se sparisse una comunità umana?? --Bruno Salvadori

    Seven pictures of northern European males and seven pictures of northern African males were presented randomly via a computer screen to 82 Italian female undergraduates of the University of Padua, Italy.
    Each picture depicted a full frontal face with a neutral facial expression. Participants were asked to classify each picture as either northern Italian or southern Italian.
    On average, the seven pictures depicting northern Europeans were classified as northern Italians 81% of the time. The seven pictures depicting northern Africans were classified as southern Italians 83%
    of the time.



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    Post Re: need help classifying some nordish people!!!

    None of them look "Keltic Nordic".

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    Post Re: need help classifying some nordish people!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Gesta Bellica
    Interesting gallery!!
    By the way i have heard that in Curitiba there are really few blacks and that the majority of people there is of Portuguese, Italian, German and Japanese descents..is it true?
    South Brazil has a white majority, Portuguese, Italians, and Germans are indeed the main groups, I have never been to Curitiba but i would imagine that just like all other Brazilian big cities it received a lot of brown/black migrants coming from Northeast Brazil...

    Quote Originally Posted by Volksdeutscher
    None of them look "Keltic Nordic".
    well, thats why i said i wasn't sure about the classifications, and i've seen Gisele Bundchen be classified as Keltic Nordic in a older threat here at skadi, therefore i though she as a keltic nordic, it would be more helpful if you told me your opnions about their sub-races

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    Post Re: need help classifying some nordish people!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Volksdeutscher
    None of them look "Keltic Nordic".
    Especially the woman. She looks more North Eastern European (Slavic/Russian/Baltic???) to me than anything else.

    I think Vera Fisher could pass for a halstatt Nordic... Her hair from that little pic alone seems blonde enough, secondly, even if it wasn't we must remember that Halstatts can also have darker blonde hair. It doesn't always need to be ash-blonde.

    (Just to clear things up on my part... Are Ash-blonde and Platinum-Blonde synonyms? Do they mean the same thing, or is there a slight different? If so, someone please tell me.)

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    Post Re: need help classifying some nordish people!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Gesta Bellica
    A lot of them have Italian family names, nice
    Deshalb Italians where considered '' not really whites '' by some brazilian eugenists, their religion ( catholic ), language and habits made them more assimilable than others groups ( like germans ).
    Brazil recieved a lot of Italian immigrants. There was two type of Italians:

    The first type were the ''white '' north-italians , 30% them came from Venetia, others from Campânia, Calábria and Lombardia .They came to Brazil during 1870-1920 and stayed in the South.( Paraná, Rio Grande do Sul , Santa Catarina)
    The second type are much more darker, poor and rustic, they were called ''braccianti '' , and went to São Paulo , to work in the Coffe farmers.

    The first group brought some nordish subtypes to Brazil.


    ''In Brasile la presenza Italiana era così forte da generare conflitti con i brasiliani di altra provenienza. Gli Italiani venivano considerati commercianti disonesti al punto da definirli e chiamarli "carcamano" dal gesto di calcare la mano alterando il peso misurato dalla bilancia. Come appellativo dispregiativo verso gli italiani negli Stati Uniti venivano usati anche epiteti come "dago" e "wop" ( Italiano o straniero dalla pelle scura, usato in senso dispregiativo anche per Portoghese, Spagnolo, Messicano).''

    http://www.emigrati.it/Emigrazione/Xenofobia.asp
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    Post Re: need help classifying some nordish people!!!

    South Brazil has a white majority, and most people who lives in Curitiba is still white .But in the last years the city received many mongrel people from other cities of Parana State and the neighbor state of São Paulo.

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    Post Re: need help classifying some nordish people!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Euclides
    Deshalb Italians where considered '' not really whites '' by some brazilian eugenists
    source please


    Quote Originally Posted by Euclides
    "'In Brasile la presenza Italiana era così forte da generare conflitti con i brasiliani di altra provenienza. Gli Italiani venivano considerati commercianti disonesti al punto da definirli e chiamarli "carcamano" dal gesto di calcare la mano alterando il peso misurato dalla bilancia. Come appellativo dispregiativo verso gli italiani negli Stati Uniti venivano usati anche epiteti come "dago" e "wop" ( Italiano o straniero dalla pelle scura, usato in senso dispregiativo anche per Portoghese, Spagnolo, Messicano).''

    http://www.emigrati.it/Emigrazione/Xenofobia.asp
    The middle upper class and the Elite of São Paulo disliked the Italians and would often threat them the same way they threated blacks and Northeastern Brazilian muds, this discrimination has nothing to do with the fact that the Italians are "dark", in fact most of the white Brazilians during that time were meds with Portuguese ancestry, they disliked the Italians because they were really poor people who lived in sub-human conditions, didn't know how to read and write, and couldn't even speak Portuguese, nordish and med Italians were disliked the exactly same way by the Paulistas.

    South Brazil isn't the only place that have nordish Italians, none of the nordish Brazilians with Italian surnames i posted is from South Brazil.

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