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    Someone undoubtedly already wrote about this, but I'm gonna make a short comment anyway:

    There's NO industrial whale hunt in the Faroes, unlike in Japan or Chile.

    There are NO scouting ships or boats actively searching for schools of whales (yes, that is the term). Instead people rely on their eyes, in case a school enters the sounds between the islands, but, and this is important: It's necessary to get a permit from the local police constable (sýslumaður) before you can drive the school to a beach.

    The constable may allow or deny a kill. However, sometimes whales are beached but not killed, this is because our university and other institutions have an agreement with the police constables, that they are allowed to do research on the whales, and also planting transmitters on them so as to study their movement in the ocean.

    The 'chopping the whales with picks' or whatever that guy/chick wrote early is either a) totally ignorant or b) based on seriously outdated information. There exists only one way to kill a whale: Severing it's main artery. The process is very effective and it takes a maximum of 30 seconds for the animal to die.

    Of course, severing the main artery causes immense bleeding, but it's no different than bludgeoning (I think is the word) a cow or a pig at a slaughterhouse. Only difference, of course, being that the whales' blood colours the bay red, while the blood of a cow or pig 'vanishes' into a drain.

    After the hunt is finished, the meat is divided among the people of the surrounding area. First, the people who found it get a share, then the participants in the kill, then the rest is divided between the villages in the surrounding area, and depending on the number of whales killed, this area can be quite big, so it's not like someone gets an over-share or anything.

    Also, the postulation that whales and dolphins supposedly are as smart as humans, is in my opinion not very likely, and does seem to be a result of entertainment anthropomorphising the animals. I'm here mainly thinking about Flipper and Willy (AKA Keiko).

    So to sum up: No we don't kill all the whales, some are left alone and are studied. Whale meat is not just for the killers, but for everyone. The distribution system is very solidaric.

    I know, that to some people I'm speaking to deaf ears, but I also know, that there are some ears willing to listen.

    Someone mentioned Sea Shepherd. Those freaks are as bad as Al-Kaïda, and frankly, they're exploiting the whales in a much worse degree than both we (supposedly) and the Japanese are.

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    Have you ever watched a Lion take down a gazelle? I can be messy. This is a tradition for them. I understand your point, but I think too many traditions have been taken away for the beliefs of others who are not even part of that culture. You may not like it, I may not like it, but to put it bluntly, it really is none of our busines.
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    Though spears have spared his limbs

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    To an outsider, this is really brutal but it is part of the cultural identity of the Faroese people and it has been for centuries, a communal hunt that dates back to the islanders' Viking roots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulfvaldr View Post
    You may not like it, I may not like it, but to put it bluntly, it really is none of our busines.
    This is a poor attitude. By that, we should ignore any Europeans in Africa, as it is none of our business what Africans do to them. The fact is that the world has global poltical/ideological forces and we either need to fight to the top or kneel to those already up there.

    As for the whales, I think johan is downplaying their intelligence. Just because you do not like the hippies lying about you, it does not suddenly mean animal welfare, Japan's whaling fleets, and the animal's intelligence have all been lied about just to attack you. Although in contrast, a pig is also intelligent, just to compare the morality of it that way.

    I think there is little problem here and people should instead focus on the Asians who actively hunt whales.

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    No,thats is a lot different, we are not talking about people here that have been hunted for centuries, These are wales, and it is a traditionally historical event, You want to stop a tradition just because you don't agree with it? what you made is a very poor comparison
    The coward believes he will live forever
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    To keep excusing it as tradition is to dismiss the pain and horror those whales are experiencing IMHO. They have an advanced nervous system just like us and feel pain like a child would feel.

    Some traditions aren't good or productive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by casualty View Post
    To keep excusing it as tradition is to dismiss the pain and horror those whales are experiencing IMHO. They have an advanced nervous system just like us and feel pain like a child would feel.

    Some traditions aren't good or productive.
    Read the post at the top of the thread.

    Focusing on this is a waste of time and is barely relevant.

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    "Focusing on this is a waste of time and is barely relevant."

    With all due respect, how is it irrelevant to focus on the pilot whales? The linked info at the top of the thread reads, "Conservationists say the practice is outdated, cruel and unnecessary for a place with one of the highest standards of living in Europe."

    And, "They literally saw through the animal's spine to kill them," Watson said. "People tend to drink a lot and it’s a big party akin to the Roman gladiator games. There is no place for this in the modern world."

    Forgive me if I missed something. I know there's not an industry based whale hunting there, but I still feel it's wrong.

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    Good thing you don't live there and aren't doing it yourself then. It's a part of their culture, and whether or not its barbaric, it's not really our job to tell another country what to do on their own shores, is it?

    I think maybe telling them why it is bad or telling them about your own emotions towards whales and how you feel connected to them is okay, but to try to get such things banned is a bad idea.

    Anyways I'd rather have a free life as a whale and then be killed rather than be raised in a small cage all my life and never know freedom, that is a lot more natural at least to me.

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    I think this is bullshit. What does it matters how the animals live their last few minutes, when they have been living freely all their life in the ocean.
    Much more important issues is animals being bred in industry like scale for food and fur.

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