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    Sv: Re: The Rape of Europe: Young People, Get Out and Emigrate!

    Quote Originally Posted by Horagalles View Post
    True, however their own collectivistic behaviour is what gives them an competetive advantage in Business. They share information and would stick to informal agreements, where many whites wouldn't. They also use their own mentality and culture in their advantage.
    - Agreed. The traditional Germanic tendency to individualism and moral universalism is certainly a disadvantage in this respect. So, we'll have to play the collectivistic, ethnocentric game of double standards and in-group altruism.

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    Re: The Rape of Europe: Young People, Get Out and Emigrate!

    Quote Originally Posted by OneFakeSaxon View Post
    No one is stopping any grouping of people from voting for who they like.
    Do you want to say that means of propaganda are futile and don't work on the masses? That people are free of any social influence propagated by the media, mainly newspapers and tv-stations?

    The question is if the Jews in America feel like Jews, and yes they do, as their policies show us, it is a mere question of loyalty, CL was a good example too

    Quote Originally Posted by OneFakeSaxon View Post
    Jewish intellectuals tend to be anti-welfarism (which attracts third-worlders) and pro-self determination.
    They are internationalists too, which attracts all kind of Third Worlders.
    And of course they are pro-self determination which translates to individualizing societies.
    Last edited by Moody; Saturday, November 18th, 2006 at 03:00 PM. Reason: part of post split to thread 'Preferred Option for removing Non-Europeans'
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    Sv: Re: The Rape of Europe: Young People, Get Out and Emigrate!

    Note one that is so succesful such as the Jewish Lobby.
    - Although the Irish constitute a far larger proportion of the U.S. population than the Jews.

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    Re:The Rape of Europe: Young People, Get Out and Emigrate!

    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperboreus View Post
    - Agreed. The traditional Germanic tendency to individualism and moral universalism is certainly a disadvantage in this respect. So, we'll have to play the collectivistic, ethnocentric game of double standards and in-group altruism.
    Since when is there a Germanic tendency toward individualism? If anything, it's the opposite. Certainly, the British and the Dutch at a stage had a highly developed sense of individualism, hence their global dominance through trade at a point. German philosophy from the early 19th century though was geared towards collectivism (Hegel's Romantic Nationalism). And just look at the sick ideologies festering in Scandinavia (Jantelage).

    The Jews do not engage in collectivism. That is silly. They recognize their self-interest in aiding their fellow Jew, for instance in business via contracts and preferential agreements. If anything, whites don't need collectivism; they need to recognize their common identity, and push their self-interest from that point on. That is all. Jews do it.

    Another thing -- what is it with these outdated conspiracy theories? The media in Britain is in fact pro-Islamic (BBC that is), not pro-Zionist. How much more does it take to get people to realize there is a different threat now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser View Post

    The "game" here is one of life and death for our Folk's very survival. Whites must start acting like a hive instead of a bunch of loose bees. The jews do this very well already. We can learn a great deal about racial preservation and promotion from them.
    Then, if you're going to learn something, you best do it properly. They do not act as a hive. They simply see their racial identity as the best way to further their own interests. If you will, it is individual collaboration as opposed to hive mentality. And if you really want to emulate "their" ways, I'd suggest you began with the Austrian School (nevermind that this has far more to do with the Scholastics and Protestants/Calvinists than any Jewish mode of thought).

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    Sv: Re: Sv: Re: The Rape of Europe: Young People, Get Out and Emigrate!

    Since when is there a Germanic tendency toward individualism?
    - Since pre-historical times, I guess. In terms of recorded history, this tendency can at least be traced back to the Middle Ages.

    German philosophy from the early 19th century though was geared towards collectivism (Hegel's Romantic Nationalism).
    - The exception proves the rule... The "Jantelagen" you mentioned, exists more or less in any country, culture and social stratum, and has nothing to do with ethnocentric collectivism.

    The Jews do not engage in collectivism. That is silly.
    - Wrong. Is it silly to be wealthy, powerful and successful?

    They recognize their self-interest in aiding their fellow Jew, for instance in business via contracts and preferential agreements.
    - Why would they do that in their self-interest if they do not engage in collectivism?

    If anything, whites don't need collectivism; they need to recognize their common identity, and push their self-interest from that point on. That is all. Jews do it.
    - What's your definition of identity?

    Another thing -- what is it with these outdated conspiracy theories? The media in Britain is in fact pro-Islamic (BBC that is), not pro-Zionist. How much more does it take to get people to realize there is a different threat now?
    - The media in Western countries is not pro-Islamic, it's pro-multiculturalism and anti-Germanic. It's not pro-Zionist because that would probably trigger off anti-Semitism.

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    Re: Sv: Re: Sv: Re: Sv: Re: The Rape of Europe: Young People, Get Out and Emigrate!

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser View Post
    Please stop this zionist inspired internecine religious infighting. There are plenty of great White protestants too. We need all our Folk to fight despite their individual religious affiliation which is largely a private matter, in my humble estimation.
    The great White Protestant are great despite being Protestant not because of it.

    Luther's reformation was great actually, it brought the semitic catholics back to Germanic roots, but the newly Protestants blew it with their Paulus admiration and their affinity to everything jewish.

    They should have read his book better

    Quote Originally Posted by OneFakeSaxon
    Obviously the all-powerful Jews must be missing a trick, because the newspapers & TV channels I see are broadly anti-Israel and its actions.
    They are not all-powerful, case closed
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    Re: Sv: Re: Sv: Re: Sv: Re: The Rape of Europe: Young People, Get Out and Emigrate!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jäger View Post
    Luther's reformation was great actually, it brought the semitic catholics back to Germanic roots, but the newly Protestants blew it with their Paulus admiration and their affinity to everything jewish.

    In my book , Luther was fairly negative about the Jews. In England , after the semi-Reformation here, we had the ultra-Protestant Cromwell as a military dictator after the execution of the King . Cromwell is credited as the one who encouraged the Jews to return to England where , for the must part, they have thrived . But British policy has always tried to be on both sides up into modern times, favouring both Israel and the Arab cause simultaneously. I can't see that changing !

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    Re: Sv: Re: Sv: Re: Sv: Re: The Rape of Europe: Young People, Get Out and Emigrate!

    Quote Originally Posted by Carl View Post
    In my book , Luther was fairly negative about the Jews.
    Not only in yours, but also in his. Haven't you seen my link?
    The problem wasn't Luther, but his later followers.

    On the Jews and Their Lies (German: Von den Juden und ihren Lügen) is a treatise written in January 1543 by Martin Luther, the German theologian, in which he advocated harsh persecution of the Jewish people, including that their synagogues and schools be set on fire, prayerbooks destroyed, rabbis forbidden to preach, homes razed, and property and money confiscated. Luther argued that Jews should be shown no mercy or kindness,[1] should have no legal protection,[2] and that these "poisonous envenomed worms" should be drafted into forced labor or expelled for all time
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Jews_and_Their_Lies
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    Re: The Rape of Europe: Young People, Get Out and Emigrate!

    Quote Originally Posted by SineNomine View Post
    The Jews do not engage in collectivism. That is silly.
    Karl Marx [an apostate Jew] did much to lay the theoretical foundations for Communism, though.

    Another thing -- what is it with these outdated conspiracy theories? The media in Britain is in fact pro-Islamic (BBC that is), not pro-Zionist. How much more does it take to get people to realize there is a different threat now?
    What is the "different threat now"?

    And what was the threat before now, if it was different to the one now?

    Pro-Islamics say the British broadcasting Corporation [BBC] is pro-Zionist, and pro-Zionists say that the BBC is pro-Islamic.
    Just as Conservatives accuse the BBC of being pro-Leftist and the Leftists accuse the BBC of being pro-Conservative!
    They are all playing the same game, whether they know it or not.

    What can be stated as fact, is that the BBC is both pro-Jewish and anti-British Nationalist.

    They simply see their racial identity as the best way to further their own interests.
    In what way are the Jews a 'race'?
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    Re: The Rape of Europe: Young People, Get Out and Emigrate!

    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperboreus View Post
    - Since pre-historical times, I guess. In terms of recorded history, this tendency can at least be traced back to the Middle Ages.
    Care to provide instances of it? I have in mind that you mean anything from tribal warring societies to feudal kingdoms, which were not cohesive.

    - The exception proves the rule... The "Jantelagen" you mentioned, exists more or less in any country, culture and social stratum, and has nothing to do with ethnocentric collectivism.
    The Jantelagen exists in predominance in the Scandinavian countries. I would love to see its incidence measured in other Christian countries, such as England or the USA, where success (in a financial sense) is idolized rather than penalized. Furthermore, it is undeniable that the 19th and early 20th century saw a massive rise in nationalism amongst germanic nations for the most part. This would imply a break in the tradition to me, if such a tradition even existed.

    - Wrong. Is it silly to be wealthy, powerful and successful?
    Hardly -- I said it is silly to point that the cause of this is Jewish collectivism. As I said, they perceive a common interest and they push it forward.

    - Why would they do that in their self-interest if they do not engage in collectivism?
    Because everyone knows that in business, relationships build confidence, especially relationships of trust. If one Jew can view another as extended family, this is conducive to a business environment. I have never heard of anyone call collusive ventures in a market "collectivist". The Jews practice a form of collusion, as do competing oligopolies in a market when they seek to promote their common interest.

    - What's your definition of identity?
    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/identity

    Pretty much that.

    - The media in Western countries is not pro-Islamic, it's pro-multiculturalism and anti-Germanic. It's not pro-Zionist because that would probably trigger off anti-Semitism.
    Well I can agree on that. But, from it being multiculturalist it necessarily follows that it is pro-Islam. Why? Because muslims are becoming the largest foreign, non-European minority to accommodate.

    Quote Originally Posted by Moody Lawless View Post
    Karl Marx [an apostate Jew] did much to lay the theoretical foundations for Communism, though.
    Yes, and Milton Friedman (a Jew) did a lot to lay down the foundations for the Chicago School of Economics. Their prominence in Economics extends in both directions. I am beginning to think the sense in which you mean "collectivism" is in the form of collusion, which is a different thing altogether, although for practical purposes its outcomes are similar.

    What is the "different threat now"?
    The high incidence of Muslims in Europe, and their increasing marginalisation.

    And what was the threat before now, if it was different to the one now?
    European in-fighting. The wars between the European powers.

    In what way are the Jews a 'race'?
    Call it what you will, they do see each other as an extended family, do they not?
    Last edited by Moody; Saturday, November 18th, 2006 at 02:43 PM. Reason: split thread

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