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    Re: AW: Post examples of living, predominantly Dinarid individuals

    Quote Originally Posted by Agrippa View Post
    Peter Stormare is in my opinion not that Dinarid at all, even though having such influences most likely.

    .... But most will be (Indo- ?) European descendents which migrated Northwards together with the Nordoid-Cromagnoid groups or descendents of more recent immigrants.
    This might be a similar example:

    http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=54733
    I also noticed that rufosity was present at other dinaroid as well.
    What is the relationship between Dinarids ans Celts?!
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    AW: Re: AW: Post examples of living, predominantly Dinarid individuals

    Quote Originally Posted by Horagalles View Post
    This might be a similar example:

    http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=54733
    I also noticed that rufosity was present at other dinaroid as well.
    What is the relationship between Dinarids ans Celts?!
    If speaking about the most typical and classic Keltics, which are not just more recent results of mixture (Nordid-Dinarid), both might have had a significant Bell Beaker influence - I mean both typical Keltics and Dinarids seem to have been influenced by this ancient people in my opinion. Both changed some characteristics later, but the same influence, in Keltics just minor, in Dinarids more significant, might have introduced Dinaroid traits or Dinarisation respectively in a (for Dinarids) favourable (herders and specialists of the mountainous areas) habitat.
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    Re: AW: Re: AW: Post examples of living, predominantly Dinarid individuals

    Quote Originally Posted by Agrippa View Post
    If speaking about the most typical and classic Keltics, which are not just more recent results of mixture (Nordid-Dinarid), both might have had a significant Bell Beaker influence - I mean both typical Keltics and Dinarids seem to have been influenced by this ancient people in my opinion. Both changed some characteristics later, but the same influence, in Keltics just minor, in Dinarids more significant, might have introduced Dinaroid traits or Dinarisation respectively in a (for Dinarids) favourable (herders and specialists of the mountainous areas) habitat.
    Bell Beaker being an Dinarid-Cromagnid intermediate.
    Dinarids prefer mountains - what is the reason for that?
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    Re: AW: Post examples of living, predominantly Dinarid individuals

    Quote Originally Posted by Agrippa View Post
    Peter Stormare is in my opinion not that Dinarid at all, even though having such influences most likely.

    However, concerning what you said about Finns, well, in the Baltic countries lives a Dinarid minority, I'd say that Dinarid strains might have migrated upwards from there. Furthermore there is the possibility of rather unusual mixtures or individuals coming up with a similar combination of traits. But most will be (Indo- ?) European descendents which migrated Northwards together with the Nordoid-Cromagnoid groups or descendents of more recent immigrants.
    Yes maybe he isn't a pure Dinarid, but he represents Northern Europeans who are Dinarid influenced. How would you classify him?




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    AW: Re: AW: Re: AW: Post examples of living, predominantly Dinarid individuals

    Quote Originally Posted by Horagalles View Post
    Bell Beaker being an Dinarid-Cromagnid intermediate.
    Dinarids prefer mountains - what is the reason for that?
    Compare:
    http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=44114

    Several possible reasons, just to mention some:
    The Bell Beakers were mostly defeated or at least their rule (like a privileged caste) was broken in most areas. A lot of, though not all, Bell Beakers were Dinaroid. Therefore after the divide was eliminated, they simply mixed up in most areas, but in other areas they were dominant and especially in some areas of retreat, where they could defend themselves very well like the mountains, they formed larger communities probably (I have certain sites in mind while saying that).

    But to talk about Bell Beakers too much means again to miss the point somewhat, because this just relocates the problem from one, to another areas. Finally its about Dinarisation and this type being for some partly known (compare nasal shape: http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=43261) and partly unknown reasons (planoccipital head - Akromegaloid hormonal tendencies?) best suited for living as highlanders, as pastoralists and specialists for certain occupations as dominant and independent force, partly rather isolated in the mountainous regions. They couldnt stand the pressure on the flat land (masses of as progressive Nordoid and Mediterranoid people) where they mainly influenced by admixture (with the exception of Bell Beaker times), but in the mountains and nearby areas they could keep their positions and there were natural selective pressures working for Dinarisation even if f.e. Nordoid Slavs entered their habitat.
    They retreated, specialised on being highlanders, where they could defend their territories best, live from their most common subsistence pattern (pastoralists) and the natural selective pressures worked for their phenotype too, even if others might have entered their areas. There was a back and forth in some of course (f.e. Germanic and Slavic expansions).

    Whether certain Dinarisation processes had other reasons than that habitat is hard to answer, but at least most of the time the original developments took place in mountainous areas.

    Yes maybe he isn't a pure Dinarid, but he represents Northern Europeans who are Dinarid influenced. How would you classify him?
    Nordid with Dinarid if going after what I saw from him probably. Might have classified him differently in the past, he really looks somewhat different from one appearance to another...
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    Re: Post examples of living, predominantly Dinarid individuals

    Grant Wilson from Ghost Hunters one of the few television shows that I enjoy watching.



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    Re: Post examples of living, predominantly Dinarid individuals

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    Re: Post examples of living, predominantly Dinarid individuals

    Sali Berisha, prime-minister of Albania is a lousy politician and a total moron , but I think that he serves as a good example of dinarid phenotype, right?




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    Re: Post examples of living, predominantly Dinarid individuals

    One thing I've noticed is that Dinarid traits always seem to be much more visible in men they they are in women.

    In the other extreme, Baltid/East-Baltid/Lappanoid traits always seem more pronounced in women.

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