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    Uncovered women 'invite rape'

    One of Australia's senior-most Islamic clerics has triggered outrage after comments reported on Thursday comparing women who don't wear a headscarf to "uncovered meat" who invite rape.

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    Re: Uncovered women 'invite rape'

    What nonsense!

    Ancient writers describe the Germanic tribes as wearing very little despite the cold climate, and of Germanic tribeswomen baring their breasts.

    This was no invitation to rape because respect for womanhood was instilled within the Kingroup [and the rare deviants who raped within that group were killed instantly].

    In Aryan culture the Physique culture of the nude body was always an aesthetic joy and had no connotations of base animal lust.

    No, rape has always been a feature of inter-racial warfare.

    Therefore it is multiracialism which has "invited rape"!

    Allowing non-Aryans to reside in Aryan lands has threatened the security of our women and is a vile political peace-crime.

    Not only has it brought in enemy aliens who are more-or-less sent to rape our women, it has also divided the Folk itself!
    Turning Aryan against Aryan.

    And soft punishments against rapists of all kinds have allowed the rapist gene even amongst Aryans [once so very rare] to grow.

    Multiracialism is a wicked programme intended to rape Aryan women and so produce illegitimate half-breeds; it is also intended to debase Aryan man.

    Aliens invite Rape - nothing else.
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    Re: Uncovered women 'invite rape'

    It all goes to show how alien the clerics' thinking is within the social culture of Europeans in general & North Europeans in particular ( Just think of Australia!). From ancient Greece onwards the truth of openness has been maintained ; even the church could not supress and contain it.
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    Outrage as cleric blames women for rape

    Outrage as cleric blames women for rape

    ROHAN SULLIVAN

    IN SYDNEY

    MUSLIM leaders, women's rights activists and politicians in Australia yesterday condemned one of the country's top Islamic clerics for comparing women without head scarves to "uncovered meat" who invite rape.

    The cleric, Sheik Taj Aldin al Hilali, apologised for any offence he had caused in a sermon he made last month for the holy month of Ramadan, after they were printed on the front page of a national newspaper.

    Australia's prime minister, John Howard, and others denounced Sheik al Hilali's remarks as blaming women for rape, and there were growing calls for the cleric to quit or be removed from his high-profile role.

    In the Nation newspaper, Sheik al Hilali was quoted as saying: "If you take out uncovered meat and place it outside ... and the cats come to eat it ... whose fault is it, the cats' or the uncovered meat's?

    "The uncovered meat is the problem. If she was in her room, in her home, in her hijab, no problem would have occurred."

    Australia's sex discrimination commissioner, Pru Goward, said Mr Hilali's comments encouraged rape and that Australia's Muslims should force him to step down.

    "This is inciting young men to a violent crime because it is the woman's fault," Ms Goward told television's Nine Network. "It is time the Islamic community did more than say they were horrified. I think it is time he left."

    Mr Howard said the comments were "appalling and reprehensible".

    He told reporters: "The idea that women are to blame for rapes is preposterous."

    Sheik al Hilali also faced pressure from within Australia's Muslim community, which numbers nearly 300,000 in a population of around 20 million.

    "Whether he steps down or not, it's time for Australia's Muslim faith to have a religious leader who has a better understanding of Australian laws, Australian values, and the Australian way of life," said Alia Karaman, a female leader at a large mosque in Sydney.

    Sheik al Hilali issued a statement late yesterday saying the newspaper had selectively quoted from the sermon, and he was shocked at the reaction.

    "I condemn rape," he said.

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    Re: Outrage as cleric blames women for rape

    This just underlines the fact that our culture and their culture are incompatable. These types of fundamental differences are beyond multiculturalism. Multiculturalism is enjoying foreign cooking. Western culture and Islam just cannot co-habit.

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    There's no such thing as god or any other metaphysical consciousness, thus there can't be any universal values and so on.

    That said there's definately no right nor is it excusable to promote such ideas if you're a guest in a foreign country as this foreign country had to make its own values (resulting from my fist sentence), has done this so far and has produced values which are obviously incompatible with that cr*p.

    Anyway, there's another point I've been thinking about and I already posted in the German section some time ago:

    A raped woman has - of course - no guilt as guilt is a moral term and running around like some young do isn't condemned as immoral by Australian society (at least I think so ).

    But on the other hand everyone know's there are subjects like those rapists and at least I think that those "people" are receptive to certain types of persons/outfits.

    As I said this doesn't have anything to do with ethics but what's the value of ethics if they aren't of interest to the committer of the crime ?

    Isn't this beyond good and evil because are not of interested during the deed ?

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    AW: Outrage as cleric blames women for rape

    Quote Originally Posted by Γνώθι σεαυτόν View Post
    There's no such thing as god or any other metaphysical consciousness, thus there can't be any universal values and so on.

    That said there's definately no right nor is it excusable to promote such ideas if you're a guest in a foreign country as this foreign country had to make its own values (resulting from my fist sentence), has done this so far and has produced values which are obviously incompatible with that cr*p.

    Anyway, there's another point I've been thinking about and I already posted in the German section some time ago:

    A raped woman has - of course - no guilt as guilt is a moral term and running around like some young do isn't condemned as immoral by Australian society (at least I think so ).

    But on the other hand everyone know's there are subjects like those rapists and at least I think that those "people" are receptive to certain types of persons/outfits.

    As I said this doesn't have anything to do with ethics but what's the value of ethics if they aren't of interest to the committer of the crime ?

    Isn't this beyond good and evil because are not of interested during the deed ?
    i don't dress daringly but are you saying that women should adjust their dressing code because of sick rapists and the mentally ill??

    how if society adjusted its execution and castration statutes instead
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    Re: Outrage as cleric blames women for rape

    Civilized nations and peoples don't regard others as meat. Primitive cultures such as those found in Arabia demonize other human beings that they fear and don't understand.

    Can you imagine the hysteria if a christian preacher, or anyone in America for that manner, had compared women to raw meat?

    Perhaps someone should remind the cleric that he is also made of meat...take him to Africa and tell him...if the cats (lions) eat the meat (him) who's fault is it. Then drive away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haldís View Post
    i don't dress daringly but are you saying that women should adjust their dressing code because of sick rapists and the mentally ill??

    how if society adjusted its execution and castration statutes instead
    Poor girl

    I'm NOT saying it's the girls' guild, in fact I say they can't be guilty as guilt is a moral term.

    BUT I'm not so clear about how to deal with a topic which is beyond good and evil as they don't seem to be of interested to the rapists.

    I don't want to offend you, but it seems you'd better try to transcend your present state of mind or ignore some topics, if you can't see the question behind my words.

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    Re: AW: Outrage as cleric blames women for rape

    NEWS FLASH

    Muslim cleric admits the intellectual and moral level of his people in general is no higher than that of a quadrupedal house pet.
    "We are also unable to understand any concept of individual responsibility for our actions" said Sheikh abu Arsehole yesterday to reporters.

    Australian human rights activists are presently campaigning for judicial immunity for the large growing Islamorapist community there, in light of these admissions.

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